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Freehold DM wrote:
Moorluck wrote:

It would be like me having kobolds deal 12d8 points of damage with a stone thrown at your 3rd level fighter. "I'm sorry but your +1 Scale Mail is no protection against the power of pluck."

O.o

I've had too many arguments with players using that logic against giants throwing rocks for that one to work.

Also, keep in mind the armor storm troopers wear-its very powerful plastic. You'll break your freaking hand punching it, but someone so armored can't moonwalk their way through an avalanche.

I wasn't referring to the boulders, but the scene(s) where a few ewoks actually throw soft ball sized rocks and kill the armored troopers.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Moorluck wrote:

Wolverine>Aquaman.

(But then again, who isn't)

come now moorluck, you live along the coast as I do, you know the kind of backup aquaman has access to. It depends on where the fight was occurringand whether or not aq had that bad ass trident for a hand.

Same reason as for his win over WW. Unless the fight took place in/near water, Aquaman is sushi.

In the water? Well Wolverine can drown, Aquaman can't, all he would have to is avoid Logan. Which would be easy enough since he swims a lot faster.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Moorluck wrote:
Wolverine>Batman AND Robin
how bout no. If there is someone who would use wolverines heightened senses against him, its the dynamic duo. Also, my man tim isn't a hothead like other robins, he'd fall back and wait for wolverine to overextend himself.

And do what? Break their fist when they punch him in the face? He'd take some licks, but Batsy and the boy wonder need their guts in their bodies to win.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Moorluck wrote:
Wolverine>Green Arrow.
hand to hand? Ollies out of his element. At range? Ollies gotten quite good at sniping, if he's downwind wolvie would never know he was there.

Green Arrow, whom I like, would only get a few shots at best before he gave away his position, after that would come the inevitable melee. And well...

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Freehold DM wrote:
Moorluck wrote:
Wolverine>Martian Manhunter.
...possibly.

Eventually. And I like MM, but it boils down to MM would have a helluva time putting Weapon X down for the count, but he would need his head to do so.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Moorluck wrote:

Who do I hate more than Deadpool?

Cable. Dear god how many cyborgs from the future who will save mutantkind do we really need?

i think we only had two of those. ...

My point exactly. ;)

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Freehold DM wrote:
Moorluck wrote:

Wolverine=Green Lantern.

did you hear that sound? Its (hal, john, guy, even *sigh* kyle) blasting wolverine at range. Repeatedly.

Yup, the reason I say the two would be equal. I don't like GL, but under most circumstances he would be able to keep Logan away all day. He wouldn't be able to finish him off, but Wolverine wouldn't be able to get in that one good blow that he needs either.

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Drejk wrote:
That's why they should keep character sheets with their stats and power level... Writers who would deviate from this would be feed to the morlocks.

Under Stan they pretty much had to abide by what was in the Marvel Universe Handbook. Listed powers, physical strength, and athletic ability. If you were to deviate from that you had to have a good reason to do so.

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Just realized I got ToP.

Nekkid with big boulders.

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As should be no surprise to anyone who knows me Captain America is my favorite comic hero.

Lets give my assessment of him vs some of the same foes..

Cap vs Wonder Woman(The original, not the newer SuperWonderPower Woman.)

Stalemate, both are incredible fighters, both in above peak condition, and both bring to bear impressive weapons that they weild with superb skill.

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Cap vs, Aquaman.

In a *fight* I'd give it to Cap. Aquaman is out of his element in fisticuffs with the Star Spangled Avenger.

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Cap vs. Supes.

Well duh, Supes. Although I think even he would be impressed with Caps attempt.

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Cap vs. Batman.

Cap. Both men are incredibly driven, both are masters of hand to hand had combat. Both men are smart, tough, and strong. The edge goes to Cap because where Bats is at peak physical condition, Cap is stronger, faster, and tougher than human as a result of the Super Soldier Serum.

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Cap vs. Beast Boy.

Beasty has an edge over Cap that can't be ignored with is powers. Cap has decades more combat experience and more drive than almost any other man alive.

I would call this one a standoff, but if I HAD to pick a winner, I would give it to Cap in long run.


taig wrote:

Ragadolf, I hope your workday goes smoothly.

My wife works in IT and they made some server changes last night, so she's expecting to have a busy day.

Thanks, Taig,

Actually, it will be an EASY day, just long & boring. :/

To quote Jerry Clower, "It could always be worse."

Server changes never go like they are supposed to. Good luck to your wife! :)

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Cap vs. Green Arrow.

Unless GL could shoot him at long range in the back with a kill shot, this one falls under the same results as W vs GL.

In a *fight* GA is gonna pull out all the stops, and he's gonna make it tough to get in with him, Cap's shield will be just that, a shield. Once they close the fight is going to be short and sweet. Give the match to Rogers.

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Cap vs. Green Lantern.

I like Cap, I really do. But I can't imagine any *fight* where he could get the upper hand on GL. Short of jumping him coming out of a bar or something, I don't see how Rogers would come out on top in this match.

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Ragadolf wrote:
taig wrote:

Ragadolf, I hope your workday goes smoothly.

My wife works in IT and they made some server changes last night, so she's expecting to have a busy day.

Thanks, Taig,

Actually, it will be an EASY day, just long & boring. :/

To quote Jerry Clower, "It could always be worse."

Server changes never go like they are supposed to. Good luck to your wife! :)

Nobody should have to work on Saturday, but at least it's an easy work load.

Taig, sucks that the wife is having to work too. :/


Moorluck wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Moorluck wrote:

It would be like me having kobolds deal 12d8 points of damage with a stone thrown at your 3rd level fighter. "I'm sorry but your +1 Scale Mail is no protection against the power of pluck."

O.o

I've had too many arguments with players using that logic against giants throwing rocks for that one to work.

Also, keep in mind the armor storm troopers wear-its very powerful plastic. You'll break your freaking hand punching it, but someone so armored can't moonwalk their way through an avalanche.

I wasn't referring to the boulders, but the scene(s) where a few ewoks actually throw soft ball sized rocks and kill the armored troopers.

en masse at one troopers head in particular. Eventually he will be overwhelmed. High ground and surprise work wonders.


Moorluck wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Moorluck wrote:
Wolverine>Batman AND Robin
how bout no. If there is someone who would use wolverines heightened senses against him, its the dynamic duo. Also, my man tim isn't a hothead like other robins, he'd fall back and wait for wolverine to overextend himself.
And do what? Break their fist when they punch him in the face? He'd take some licks, but Batsy and the boy wonder need their guts in their bodies to win.

with the astonishing number of gadgets they have, they'd find something. Sensory overload remains the best way to fight wolverine and bats and robin are masters at it.

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Cap vs Martian Manhunter.

Pretty much the same as a fight against the Lantern. Cap's got the goods in abundance, but ultimately MM has just to large a power edge on him. I hate it, but Cap takes the fall.


Moorluck wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Moorluck wrote:
Wolverine>Green Arrow.
hand to hand? Ollies out of his element. At range? Ollies gotten quite good at sniping, if he's downwind wolvie would never know he was there.
Green Arrow, whom I like, would only get a few shots at best before he gave away his position, after that would come the inevitable melee. And well...

its gr. He only needs three shots. I think he may be a better shot than hawkeye.


Moorluck wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Moorluck wrote:

Wolverine=Green Lantern.

did you hear that sound? Its (hal, john, guy, even *sigh* kyle) blasting wolverine at range. Repeatedly.
Yup, the reason I say the two would be equal. I don't like GL, but under most circumstances he would be able to keep Logan away all day. He wouldn't be able to finish him off, but Wolverine wouldn't be able to get in that one good blow that he needs either.

they'd build up the power to knock him out. Within moments.


Moorluck wrote:

Cap vs, Aquaman.

In a *fight* I'd give it to Cap. Aquaman is out of his element in fisticuffs with the Star Spangled Avenger.

unsure. Despite what superfriends has shown us, aq can fight. Cap would probably limp away.


Why do I have this memory of an OLD comic (From the 70's) whose cover showed Cap facing Superman?

I DO know that once they did a cross over where Spiderman met Superman, the cover had Spidey standing on top of a radio tower poised to swing a fist at Supes, who was flying at him.

I think I used to have that comic,... I think it was stolen,... :P

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Freehold DM wrote:
Moorluck wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Moorluck wrote:

Wolverine=Green Lantern.

did you hear that sound? Its (hal, john, guy, even *sigh* kyle) blasting wolverine at range. Repeatedly.
Yup, the reason I say the two would be equal. I don't like GL, but under most circumstances he would be able to keep Logan away all day. He wouldn't be able to finish him off, but Wolverine wouldn't be able to get in that one good blow that he needs either.
they'd build up the power to knock him out. Within moments.

And moments later have to deal with it all over again. Short of cutting off his air supply, which he could do, GL isn't going to *keep* Logan down, and Wolverine isn't going to touch GL,IMO.

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Ragadolf wrote:

Why do I have this memory of an OLD comic (From the 70's) whose cover showed Cap facing Superman?

I DO know that once they did a cross over where Spiderman met Superman, the cover had Spidey standing on top of a radio tower poised to swing a fist at Supes, who was flying at him.

I think I used to have that comic,... I think it was stolen,... :P

I remember those as well.

Traditionally when there has been a crossover battle between the universes it's been written primarily by DC writers. Even when the results make no sense they normally give it the DC characters.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Moorluck wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Moorluck wrote:
Wolverine>Green Arrow.
hand to hand? Ollies out of his element. At range? Ollies gotten quite good at sniping, if he's downwind wolvie would never know he was there.
Green Arrow, whom I like, would only get a few shots at best before he gave away his position, after that would come the inevitable melee. And well...
its gr. He only needs three shots. I think he may be a better shot than hawkeye.

On this we will disagree, Even with those three shots, from an ambush position, exceedingly hard to do with W, at best he's going to piss W off. And that would be very bad for the Arrow. Long term results, IMO, are Wolverine walks away, healing factor working in over drive to heal the damage that GA has dealt with all those neat arrows.


Moorluck wrote:
Ragadolf wrote:

Why do I have this memory of an OLD comic (From the 70's) whose cover showed Cap facing Superman?

I DO know that once they did a cross over where Spiderman met Superman, the cover had Spidey standing on top of a radio tower poised to swing a fist at Supes, who was flying at him.

I think I used to have that comic,... I think it was stolen,... :P

I remember those as well.

Traditionally when there has been a crossover battle between the universes it's been written primarily by DC writers. Even when the results make no sense they normally give it the DC characters.

Wizard

That I did not know.
Although, a decade or two ago I DID collect several of the 'Amalgam' comics, where both publishers got together and did a series of 'What happens if both the Marvel & DC universes merged?' comics. They kept the names of most of the characters, but merged 1 hero from each universe into one new character. Sometimes with a combo of powers, sometimes with completely new powers.

Dangit, NOW I want to go home and unbury my comic boxes!
;P

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Ragadolf wrote:
Moorluck wrote:
Ragadolf wrote:

Why do I have this memory of an OLD comic (From the 70's) whose cover showed Cap facing Superman?

I DO know that once they did a cross over where Spiderman met Superman, the cover had Spidey standing on top of a radio tower poised to swing a fist at Supes, who was flying at him.

I think I used to have that comic,... I think it was stolen,... :P

I remember those as well.

Traditionally when there has been a crossover battle between the universes it's been written primarily by DC writers. Even when the results make no sense they normally give it the DC characters.

Wizard

That I did not know.
Although, a decade or two ago I DID collect several of the 'Amalgam' comics, where both publishers got together and did a series of 'What happens if both the Marvel & DC universes merged?' comics. They kept the names of most of the characters, but merged 1 hero from each universe into one new character. Sometimes with a combo of powers, sometimes with completely new powers.

Dangit, NOW I want to go home and unbury my comic boxes!
;P

Sorry(?) to have sent the bug to bite ya. ;)

I used to spend every dime I got on comics, sadly the storage unit I had them in was broken into. the thieves threw the collection out, where they got ruined by the rain, in an effort to find something valuable. The dumbasses took all my Star Wars action figures and Secret Wars figures and gave them to their kids for Christmas presents.

*The morons left a bag of trash from their house to make room for the stolen goods, a light bill was in the trash.


Moorluck wrote:
Ragadolf wrote:
Moorluck wrote:
Ragadolf wrote:

Why do I have this memory of an OLD comic (From the 70's) whose cover showed Cap facing Superman?

I DO know that once they did a cross over where Spiderman met Superman, the cover had Spidey standing on top of a radio tower poised to swing a fist at Supes, who was flying at him.

I think I used to have that comic,... I think it was stolen,... :P

I remember those as well.

Traditionally when there has been a crossover battle between the universes it's been written primarily by DC writers. Even when the results make no sense they normally give it the DC characters.

Wizard

That I did not know.
Although, a decade or two ago I DID collect several of the 'Amalgam' comics, where both publishers got together and did a series of 'What happens if both the Marvel & DC universes merged?' comics. They kept the names of most of the characters, but merged 1 hero from each universe into one new character. Sometimes with a combo of powers, sometimes with completely new powers.

Dangit, NOW I want to go home and unbury my comic boxes!
;P

Sorry(?) to have sent the bug to bite ya. ;)

I used to spend every dime I got on comics, sadly the storage unit I had them in was broken into. the thieves threw the collection out, where they got ruined by the rain, in an effort to find something valuable. The dumbasses took all my Star Wars action figures and Secret Wars figures and gave them to their kids for Christmas presents.

*The morons left a bag of trash from their house to make room for the stolen goods, a light bill was in the trash.

Wow, Morons indeed. :/

That sucks Moorluck, Sorry to hear that.

Unfortunately, I also cannot afford to buy comics lately.

Also unfortunately, that hasn't stopped me, only slowed me down a little. ;P

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Hehe. I still like to stop by B&N and read them, I just don't buy them any more. Although Marvel recently re-released the Clairmont&Byrnes X-Men comics in a TPB. I'm sorely tempted to pick those up.


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Heh,
I also spend a lot of time in the comic shop reading a lot more issues than I buy. (I now have a great shop that doesn't mind if we read them in the store. I have had others that if you so much as TOUCHED a comic they shouted 'are you gonna buy that?') ;P

But I still buy a few. Mainly out of habit. ;P

I have a few years worth of 70's Justice League and such.
I have almost every issue of every incarnation of the Justice league comics since the original Crises on Infinite Earths.

Like I said, habit. :/

I am a BIG fan of the recent re-release of old comics in a big bundle, even if that bundle is B&W. I enjoy re-reading the old stories.

It's funny when I am reading an old Superman or Green Lantern in B&W, and recognize it as one I own. Makes me want to color it in, like my OLD Superman/Batman coloring books! :)


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Wow. My old super hero coloring books.
Flashback,...

The sad thing, I'm such a packrat, I probably still have those buried around here somewhere.
:(

I REALLY need to clean out my garage, now that I think of it.

Darn stuck at work on a nice day! >:(


Sigh, old wizard is going to go feel old now,...

;P


Moor luck, how do I tie my ps3 to fb? During my downtime with my ulcer, tax refund and help from my brother I joined the dark side with the purchase of the god of war edition ps3. Its shiny, red, and 500gb hard drive.


S L O W D A Y


Moorluck wrote:

Cap vs, Aquaman.

In a *fight* I'd give it to Cap. Aquaman is out of his element in fisticuffs with the Star Spangled Avenger.

Wrong!

Aquaman would drop a killer whale on cap. End of Fight. In fact, Aquaman would drop killer Whale on all Marvel characters. Thus DC wins...


Sorry about not posting sooner. I was playing Skyrim. I have no other excuse.


Off to work today. Have a great weekend everybody.

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Ragadolf wrote:
S L O W D A Y

Do what I do, carry a book or some game stuff with you. May be easier for me than you though, but when I get cancellations and have to spend an hour sitting in the van it helps to have something to work on.

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BluePigeon wrote:
Off to work today. Have a great weekend everybody.

Have a good one BP. If you get time after your shift go get your head examined. ;)

Aquaman.... silly Pigeon. :P

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Woodraven wrote:
Moor luck, how do I tie my ps3 to fb? During my downtime with my ulcer, tax refund and help from my brother I joined the dark side with the purchase of the god of war edition ps3. Its shiny, red, and 500gb hard drive.

As silly as this sounds, I don't know. I can't remember how I did it... I'm not even sure I did, Kellen may have done it for me. :S

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F~$@ing spammers.

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I hate Saturdays. Always so damn boring at the house, and I never can catch a nap.

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First world problems, right?


BluePigeon wrote:
Moorluck wrote:

Cap vs, Aquaman.

In a *fight* I'd give it to Cap. Aquaman is out of his element in fisticuffs with the Star Spangled Avenger.

Wrong!

Aquaman would drop a killer whale on cap. End of Fight. In fact, Aquaman would drop killer Whale on all Marvel characters. Thus DC wins...

Summon Bigger Fish!

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I wonder what was in those brownies....

@.@

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Closer...

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...closer...

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