Emperor7 |
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I actually had an employee ask for time off tomorrow so that they could go on an interview.
While I'd like to attribute this to uber-honesty I have to remind myself that this same person called off sick a couple of weeks ago and then posted on FB that they were having a great time at the waterpark. (Ratted out by a coworker with printout of said post)
*facepalm*
Has anyone coined the phrase, Cyber-Stupid?
Celestial Healer |
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That's... wow...
I maintain that the best call-out policy I've ever encountered in a workplace was at my old job. Their stated policy was that employees were not to explain why it was that they were calling in. They made it clear to all employees that they were just to call and say, "I am going to be absent from work today."
It made a lot of sense, when you come down to it. Does the reason even matter? It came down as an HR thing because they did not want supervisors making determinations of what was and was not a valid call-out reason, and wanted to remove even the possibility that a supervisor could appear biased.
Freehold DM |
I know I can be fired from my day job if my boss discovers I am looking for work without his knowledge - even if I'm doing this on on the weekend or my time off. I also have to wonder what's going on if a coworker is checking out Facebook posts-and printing them out for others- to look for chicanery.
I actually had an employee ask for time off tomorrow so that they could go on an interview.
While I'd like to attribute this to uber-honesty I have to remind myself that this same person called off sick a couple of weeks ago and then posted on FB that they were having a great time at the waterpark. (Ratted out by a coworker with printout of said post)
*facepalm*
Has anyone coined the phrase, Cyber-Stupid?
Bitter Thorn |
Bitter Thorn wrote:Sam had her baby today after 5 days of on again off again labor. Contrary to the doctors prediction Sam has a healthy beautiful little girl rather than boy.
She had a wonderful homebirth and the widwife was awesome. :)
Pics soon!
Hip Hip Hurra
*raises Apfelwein glass in general direction of Colorado*
congratulations BT to you and your Family
say Hi to your wife from us, by the way
Thanks! Diane says "Hi" back! :)
Orthos |
I know I can be fired from my day job if my boss discovers I am looking for work without his knowledge - even if I'm doing this on on the weekend or my time off.
That's a pretty douchebag policy, IMO.
I also have to wonder what's going on if a coworker is checking out Facebook posts-and printing them out for others- to look for chicanery.
Brownnosing?
Bitter Thorn |
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I know I can be fired from my day job if my boss discovers I am looking for work without his knowledge - even if I'm doing this on on the weekend or my time off. I also have to wonder what's going on if a coworker is checking out Facebook posts-and printing them out for others- to look for chicanery.Emperor7 wrote:I actually had an employee ask for time off tomorrow so that they could go on an interview.
While I'd like to attribute this to uber-honesty I have to remind myself that this same person called off sick a couple of weeks ago and then posted on FB that they were having a great time at the waterpark. (Ratted out by a coworker with printout of said post)
*facepalm*
Has anyone coined the phrase, Cyber-Stupid?
This seems very unfair to me. Is this a documented policy or just the way things are done? It seems legally dubious to me if it's policy.
Freehold DM |
Freehold DM wrote:I know I can be fired from my day job if my boss discovers I am looking for work without his knowledge - even if I'm doing this on on the weekend or my time off.That's a pretty douchebag policy, IMO.
Quote:I also have to wonder what's going on if a coworker is checking out Facebook posts-and printing them out for others- to look for chicanery.Brownnosing?
It's a pretty common policy., actually. The only thing that I can't be fired for, ironically enough, is moonlighting, which I am already doing. Re: Brownnosing, well, it's not like I needed another reason to hay Facebook, is there? :-)
Freehold DM |
A little bit of both, actually. It's one of those things that's incredibly hard to prove one way or the other.
Freehold DM wrote:I know I can be fired from my day job if my boss discovers I am looking for work without his knowledge - even if I'm doing this on on the weekend or my time off. I also have to wonder what's going on if a coworker is checking out Facebook posts-and printing them out for others- to look for chicanery.This seems very unfair to me. Is this a documented policy or just the way things are done? It seems legally dubious to me if it's policy.Emperor7 wrote:I actually had an employee ask for time off tomorrow so that they could go on an interview.
While I'd like to attribute this to uber-honesty I have to remind myself that this same person called off sick a couple of weeks ago and then posted on FB that they were having a great time at the waterpark. (Ratted out by a coworker with printout of said post)
*facepalm*
Has anyone coined the phrase, Cyber-Stupid?
Jess Door |
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when I was a kid, around adults that didn't know me too well, I would enjoy freaking them out as a kid:
"One quintillion bottles of beer on the wall, one quintillion bottles of beeeeeeeer, take one down, pass it around, nine hundred ninety-nine quadrillion, nine hundred ninety-nine trillion, nine hundred ninety-nine billion, nine hundred ninety-nine million, nine hundred ninety-nine thousand nine hundred ninety-nine bottles of beer on the wall!
Nine hundred ninety-nine quadrillion, nine hundred ninety-nine trillion, nine hundred ninety-nine billion, nine hundred ninety-nine million, nine hundred ninety-nine thousand nine hundred ninety-nine bottles of beer on the wall, nine hundred ninety-nine quadrillion, nine hundred ninety-nine trillion, nine hundred ninety-nine billion, nine hundred ninety-nine million, nine hundred ninety-nine thousand nine hundred ninety-nine bottles of beeeeeeer! Take one...
Hehe, just joking."
Lindisty |
Orthos wrote:It's a pretty common policy., actually. The only thing that I can't be fired for, ironically enough, is moonlighting, which I am already doing. Re: Brownnosing, well, it's not like I needed another reason to hay Facebook, is there? :-)Freehold DM wrote:I know I can be fired from my day job if my boss discovers I am looking for work without his knowledge - even if I'm doing this on on the weekend or my time off.That's a pretty douchebag policy, IMO.
Quote:I also have to wonder what's going on if a coworker is checking out Facebook posts-and printing them out for others- to look for chicanery.Brownnosing?
Wow. That's... pretty draconian.
I'm very grateful that most of my work experience has been at public universities or for the federal government (with one 3 year stint at a private university). That kind of policy would be absolutely unacceptable in any of those environments. I've also been extremely fortunate that with the exception of my first boss out of library school, my bosses have been supportive of my career development and never made me feel I had to keep it a secret if/when the perfect opportunity to advance came along. On the other hand, it's a truism in my field that the usual path to promotion involves changing jobs or employers-- there's usually not a lot of room for advancement within organizations-- so our professional culture is sort of geared toward that assumption.
Celestial Healer |
Freehold DM wrote:I know I can be fired from my day job if my boss discovers I am looking for work without his knowledge - even if I'm doing this on on the weekend or my time off. I also have to wonder what's going on if a coworker is checking out Facebook posts-and printing them out for others- to look for chicanery.This seems very unfair to me. Is this a documented policy or just the way things are done? It seems legally dubious to me if it's policy.Emperor7 wrote:I actually had an employee ask for time off tomorrow so that they could go on an interview.
While I'd like to attribute this to uber-honesty I have to remind myself that this same person called off sick a couple of weeks ago and then posted on FB that they were having a great time at the waterpark. (Ratted out by a coworker with printout of said post)
*facepalm*
Has anyone coined the phrase, Cyber-Stupid?
At-will employment. Unless you are under a contract or collective bargaining agreement, you can be fired at any time for any reason, except for reasons specifically prohibited by law (such as race, religion, veteran status, or gender, or because of absences covered by the Family Medical Leave Act, or because of whistleblower activity in certain industries, etc.). Slurping your soda too loudly, wearing purple, or job-searching in your free time are all valid grounds for dismissal, although your unemployment claim will be a slam-dunk in those scenarios.
Bitter Thorn |
Bitter Thorn wrote:At-will employment. Unless you are under a contract or collective bargaining agreement, you can be fired at any time for any reason, except for reasons specifically prohibited by law (such as race, religion, veteran status, or gender, or because of absences covered by the Family Medical Leave Act, or because of whistleblower activity in certain industries, etc.). Slurping your soda too loudly, wearing purple, or job-searching in your free time are all valid grounds for dismissal, although your unemployment claim will be a slam-dunk in those scenarios.Freehold DM wrote:I know I can be fired from my day job if my boss discovers I am looking for work without his knowledge - even if I'm doing this on on the weekend or my time off. I also have to wonder what's going on if a coworker is checking out Facebook posts-and printing them out for others- to look for chicanery.This seems very unfair to me. Is this a documented policy or just the way things are done? It seems legally dubious to me if it's policy.Emperor7 wrote:I actually had an employee ask for time off tomorrow so that they could go on an interview.
While I'd like to attribute this to uber-honesty I have to remind myself that this same person called off sick a couple of weeks ago and then posted on FB that they were having a great time at the waterpark. (Ratted out by a coworker with printout of said post)
*facepalm*
Has anyone coined the phrase, Cyber-Stupid?
I didn't know New York was an at will employment state. Colorado is, and many employers include at will clauses in employment contracts, but I'm under the impression that at will employment laws vary from state to state. My understanding of Colorado's employment body of law is that it's best not to specify a reason for termination as none is needed.
Having a written policy that makes a private legal activity away from work an offense that leads to termination can be a problem even in at will states. My understanding of all this might be a bit rusty though.
Bitter Thorn |
BT, I'm considering a college in Denver for when I get out next year. Any tips about the area you can offer?
I don't like the Denver metro area, but I have a personal prejudice against dense urban areas, horrible traffic, and high costs of living.
I have friends who have commuted long term between Colorado Springs and Denver due to the more reasonable cost of living in the Springs and the higher pay scale in Denver, but it's not easy.
I am a big fan of Colorado Springs, and I suspect you would feel at home here, but the job market can be a challenge.
Knowing the character of neighborhoods you are moving into can also be a challenge. Very safe neighborhoods and very rough neighborhoods can be basically next to each other.
I'm happy to field more specific questions, and I assume you still have my cell number.
Orthos |
Arizona and Tennessee are also both at-will employment states, but I've never had a supervisor tell me I could be fired for job-hunting OFF the clock. Heck I've never had one tell me I could be fired for doing so ON the clock, but I admit that's more just professional courtesy making that kind of obvious, and rather pathetic to boot.
I get that it COULD be done, but I've never had an employer who seemed the type who WOULD. I guess I've just gotten lucky?
Crimson Jester |
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I actually had an employee ask for time off tomorrow so that they could go on an interview.
While I'd like to attribute this to uber-honesty I have to remind myself that this same person called off sick a couple of weeks ago and then posted on FB that they were having a great time at the waterpark. (Ratted out by a coworker with printout of said post)
*facepalm*
Has anyone coined the phrase, Cyber-Stupid?
Couillon - This is pronounced Coo-Yawn with the accent on the 2nd syllable Yawn. The "n" is almost silent. Don't put any drawl on the second syllable. It should be a quick sharp 2nd syllable and nasally sounding. This Cajun word means stupid, idiot or fool. "A village idiot who has lost his village."
C'est sa Couillon - Cajun phrase calling someone a fool "It is a fool". A common act is to thump your niece or nephew with your finger while saying "C'est sa couillion".
Aberzombie |
Morning, all. What did I miss?
Well, Scott's computer problems continued, making it necessary for him to resort to archaic devices called pen & paper in order to get his job done. Meanwhile, Max's questions certain accounts at work led to a visit from men in black helicopters. And, across town, Jason's experience with a circus clown led to.....No, wait! That's my soap opera.
Freehold DM |
Emperor7 wrote:I actually had an employee ask for time off tomorrow so that they could go on an interview.
While I'd like to attribute this to uber-honesty I have to remind myself that this same person called off sick a couple of weeks ago and then posted on FB that they were having a great time at the waterpark. (Ratted out by a coworker with printout of said post)
*facepalm*
Has anyone coined the phrase, Cyber-Stupid?
Couillon - This is pronounced Coo-Yawn with the accent on the 2nd syllable Yawn. The "n" is almost silent. Don't put any drawl on the second syllable. It should be a quick sharp 2nd syllable and nasally sounding. This Cajun word means stupid, idiot or fool. "A village idiot who has lost his village."
C'est sa Couillon - Cajun phrase calling someone a fool "It is a fool". A common act is to thump your niece or nephew with your finger while saying "C'est sa couillion".
That's AWESOMELY COOL. And very educational. What does the niece or nephew do when poked this way?