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how many templates can a creature legally have


You can keep stacking templates as long as you can keep finding legal combinations. There is no limit to the number. There is a functional limit as, after a while, the CR boosts from templates makes them too powerful for the amount of hit dice they have and they become glass cannons.


There is no hard limit on number of templates applied as long as they are reasonable (e.g. one cannot have both vampire and lich at the same time - as soon as one of them is added the subject becomes Undead and is not viable target for the other, etc.).
The soft limit to templates added is the desired CR of the finished creature.


SO then I could create a creature with the following then?
Half-fiend
advanced
giant
entropic or half dragon (red)
with 20 lvls of anti-paladin.


Steelfiredragon wrote:

SO then I could create a creature with the following then?

Half-fiend
advanced
giant
entropic or half dragon (red)
with 20 lvls of anti-paladin.

As far as I can tell, Yes. Note, you'll have to come up with an excuse for the 2 half-whatevers. For example: Fiendish troll boinks Red dragon. End result: one (or more!) half-fiend, half-dragon troll(s).


the half fiend says it is inherited or aquired
half dragon can be done by magical experimentation.

so a troll with both is not that hard of an explanation

espescially if encountering a creature outside of the abyss is unlikely unless some evil caster is nutso enough to summon it....


To paraphrase:

Even if the odds are a million to one, that still means there are 6,000+ people that fit that description.

Dark Archive

Steelfiredragon, I asked the developers the same question a year or so ago, and James Jacobs replied that they wanted to back away from the strict restrictions for templates in 3E. Unless the template explicitly limits it to, say, humanoid creatures, you can use it on any creature that. You could create, for example, fiendish skeletal champions or entropic exploding zombies. Also, if you think something would be cool in your campaign, go for it; there are always exceptions to the rule, even if a template would normally apply only for a certain creature type.


... in hindsight using a troll with those templates would make it nigh unkillable.


hi, im a pc in a game currently where i am a vampire (undead) and have become large by enlarge person with permanency upon it,

is this a giant template??

and since i have the undead template currently., do i count as a living creatur determining my right to persue the the halfdragon template to add on to me, it sais in core rule book, that the half dragon template can be added to any living creature, i understand the vampire consept as a living undead (grey area in understanding this,) please help,

my character goal is to persue strenght and might, where ever and however it can be found,

Grand Lodge

alexander ipsen wrote:

hi, im a pc in a game currently where i am a vampire (undead) and have become large by enlarge person with permanency upon it,

is this a giant template??

No. Especially when you meet an enemy who prepared dispel magic.

alexander ipsen wrote:
and since i have the undead template currently., do i count as a living creatur determining my right to persue the the halfdragon template to add on to me, it sais in core rule book, that the half dragon template can be added to any living creature, i understand the vampire consept as a living undead (grey area in understanding this,) please help,

A vampire is undead and in no way a living creature.


so i will not be able to aquirre any templates unless i´m no longer a vampire?? correct?


alexander ipsen wrote:
so i will not be able to aquirre any templates unless i´m no longer a vampire?? correct?

Incorrect.

You're just inelegible for templates that can be placed on a living creature.

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