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Liberty's Edge

January 29, 1986 - The space shuttle Challenger exploded 74 seconds after lift-off, killing all 7 crew members, including Christa McAuliffe, the first teacher to be chosen as a member of a shuttle crew.

Wow. I feel old. I remember sitting in my school cafeteria, when the principle came in and made the announcement. I was in 7th grade.

We spent the whole rest of the school day discussing the tragedy. My teacher even turned on the television in the classroom and we watched the newsreel repeat the explosion over and over as the "experts" debated what exactly happened.

For years after, my parents had hanging on their wall a framed news clipping of a political cartoon showing a bald eagle staring up towards the stars and weeping.


I was in the third or fourth grade, 7 years old or so. I remember being perplexed that they had died, I thought they would have just fallen into the water. We watched the same clips, I think.

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I was living in Florida at the time, not terribly far from where it happened. In fact, the explosion was visible from my backyard.

I was 4 years old at the time. I thought it was fireworks. :(

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I'm too young to remember the Challenger, but I do recall the Columbia.


Ross Byers wrote:
I'm too young to remember the Challenger, but I do recall the Columbia.

...

Why is everyone slowly becoming younger than me?!??!

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Freehold DM wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
I'm too young to remember the Challenger, but I do recall the Columbia.

...

Why is everyone slowly becoming younger than me?!??!

I was 2 years old at the time.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
I'm too young to remember the Challenger, but I do recall the Columbia.

...

Why is everyone slowly becoming younger than me?!??!

Younger than you? I was in eighth grade when we lost the Challenger. I remember being told by another kid in the lunch line and I laughed it off. Then I went to the science lab (I was allowed out of the caffeteria, even back then the rules didn't apply to me) and the 7th graders next door were watching it on TV...

I've always been told our Chem/Physics teacher at the time was one of the finalists. 'But for the grace of God...'.

(Anyone who went to Watkins memorial in the 90's, same teacher.)

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You remember the Challenger? Fortunately I wasn't old enough to remember Apollo 1, but my strongest memories will always be watching that incredibly ditorted and grainy picture broadcast from the moon, while hearing Neil Armstrong say.

"A small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."


Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
I'm too young to remember the Challenger, but I do recall the Columbia.

...

Why is everyone slowly becoming younger than me?!??!

I was 2 years old at the time.

AAAARRRGGGHH!!!


Matthew Morris wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
I'm too young to remember the Challenger, but I do recall the Columbia.

...

Why is everyone slowly becoming younger than me?!??!

Younger than you? I was in eighth grade when we lost the Challenger. I remember being told by another kid in the lunch line and I laughed it off. Then I went to the science lab (I was allowed out of the caffeteria, even back then the rules didn't apply to me) and the 7th graders next door were watching it on TV...

I've always been told our Chem/Physics teacher at the time was one of the finalists. 'But for the grace of God...'.

(Anyone who went to Watkins memorial in the 90's, same teacher.)

Amazingly small world we live in man.


I was in high school at the time. Feel better Freehold?


I was in middle school at the time. My mother also worked at the middle school (she had been watching news in the Teacher's lounge at the time).

She ran out to find me during the changeover between classes. I was walking on wet, cold grass - as it was a cool, crisp morning. She told me "The shuttle crashed!". I recall my incredulous, first reaction, "How can the shuttle crash, Mom?!?"

I was one of the first students to find out about it at the school.

. . .

Most of the events of that day are remembered by me vividly, even down to what I had for dinner and seeing Reagan's face on the TV. Wow, such a long time ago.


Now, because of the budget, the space shuttle is crashing again.

China or India first settlement on Mars?


CourtFool wrote:

Now, because of the budget, the space shuttle is crashing again.

China or India first settlement on Mars?

Brazil.

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CourtFool wrote:

Now, because of the budget, the space shuttle is crashing again.

China or India first settlement on Mars?

Neither I think... they're both likely to go for the Moon first. That at least might have some practical value.

Unless you mean that the last 3 flights for the shuttle are being canceled, there isn't anything new going on that hasn't been on schedule already. the shuttle is supposed to be retired soon.

Actually, from my point of view, the sooner the shuttle is killed, the better. From the point of view of it's mission statement which was to make space travel more economical than it was using disposable rockets, the shuttle has been an absolute failure.

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LazarX wrote:
CourtFool wrote:

Now, because of the budget, the space shuttle is crashing again.

China or India first settlement on Mars?

Neither I think... they're both likely to go for the Moon first. That at least might have some practical value.

Unless you mean that the last 3 flights for the shuttle are being canceled, there isn't anything new going on that hasn't been on schedule already. the shuttle is supposed to be retired soon.

Almost 30 years ago, Issac Asimov wrote an essay on why we shouldn't race to Mars, but go back to Luna. He pointed out the perks of building solar system ships and launching them from the moon.


Psha! I am still waiting for my blasted flying car.


Matthew Morris wrote:
Almost 30 years ago, Issac Asimov wrote an essay on why we shouldn't race to Mars, but go back to Luna. He pointed out the perks of building solar system ships and launching them from the moon.

Talk about outsourcing.

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Garydee wrote:
I was in high school at the time. Feel better Freehold?

Ditto. Junior in High School.


Junior High for me as well. The news came around during class and the teachers were talking about it. My teacher borrowed a TV and brought it in the classroom and we watched the news about it for a while. A few of the other students were also paying attention but others were making bad jokes already trying to get attention.

What surprised me even then was that the launch was forced even though the engineers were saying it should be scrubbed. It also surprised me that they weren't building a few more shuttles or working on a newer model. Since they said back then that they expected a failure rate of about every 14 or 20 launches, don't remember which, meaning a shuttle would be lost that often. Didn't make sense that they weren't building replacements while working hard on shuttle 2.0.


Ok, Now I feel old. I was 19 in my second year of university. Heard about it during my 2nd year Modern Physics course and couldn't believe it. As soon as we got out of class, I went with a friend to his house and spent the afternoon glued to the TV. In hindsight, the amount of coverage seems a tad ghoulish (the explosion was on what seemed like a never-ending loop) but we couldn't pull ourselves away from it. It was too unreal.

Seems like a lifetime ago.

Greg


Thank god, I have some lawns to stand on!!!!

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Freehold DM wrote:
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
I'm too young to remember the Challenger, but I do recall the Columbia.

...

Why is everyone slowly becoming younger than me?!??!

I was 2 years old at the time.
AAAARRRGGGHH!!!

I was 10 months old.

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I was in 8th grade science class.


Ross Byers wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
I'm too young to remember the Challenger, but I do recall the Columbia.

...

Why is everyone slowly becoming younger than me?!??!

I was 2 years old at the time.
AAAARRRGGGHH!!!
I was 10 months old.

AAAAARRRRGGGGHHH!!!!


I was in 8th grade and in class when i heard about that, and I remember coming home that day from school and being glued to the TV. IIRC they found out pretty quickly the cause of it.

I remember reading about the shuttle stuff back when it first was being developed, back in the late 70's/ and early 80's. It was fascinating stuff.

Not to be political here, but I hope NASA gets a replacement for it, and we return to the moon someday.


To the moon, Alice! To the moon!

Wait. I am dating myself.

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We watched it live from my high school english class. Our teacher broke down in tears.

Liberty's Edge

It was two days after my 22nd birthday (boy do I feel old compared to some of you). I had just managed to wipe out the code for our group compiler project and was trying to retype it in when I got a message from someone on what passed for a chat system back then. At first I thought she was kidding but found out it was true.

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I was in the 7th grade, and the first hint I had that anything was wrong was when I went to lunch and noticed the flag flying at half staff. I asked another kid what had happened and he told me that the Challenger had exploded. Then we watched the news coverage about it in class for the rest of the day. I remember that I had been reading a book from the library that was a simplified version of the Space Shuttle crew manual, and I kept holding out hope that one of the safety mechanisms that I had read about had kicked in and the astronauts were safe somewhere and they just had not found them yet. Sadly that was not the case. I can still remember the sadness that everyone I knew felt that day, to the point that I am getting choked up again as I write this.

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Ad Astra Per Aspera.

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CourtFool wrote:

Wait. I am dating myself.

That must be awkward. Who holds the door and who pays the check?

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Ross Byers wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
I'm too young to remember the Challenger, but I do recall the Columbia.

...

Why is everyone slowly becoming younger than me?!??!

I was 2 years old at the time.
AAAARRRGGGHH!!!
I was 10 months old.

I'm older than Ross? @_@

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Ross Byers wrote:
CourtFool wrote:

Wait. I am dating myself.

That must be awkward. Who holds the door and who pays the check?

the poodle?


LazarX wrote:
CourtFool wrote:

Now, because of the budget, the space shuttle is crashing again.

China or India first settlement on Mars?

Neither I think... they're both likely to go for the Moon first. That at least might have some practical value.

Possibly but there is a pretty good chance they skip that step.

There really is nothing on the moon - a bunch of rocks pretty much identical to what you can get from Baffin Island (and believe me we'll sell you some old rock a lot cheaper then it'll cost you to get it from the moon). There aren't even minerals to find except trace amounts.

Building things there because of low gravity is possibly an option but if your looking for that a space station is actually probably better - you can spin it to give you normal gravity out on some kind of a hub and then attach non-spinning elements to it and actually work in true zero G. This is the real problem with the Moon - not enough gravity to make this a reasonable place for us to live but to much to actually do good Zero G work.


Freehold DM wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
I'm too young to remember the Challenger, but I do recall the Columbia.

...

Why is everyone slowly becoming younger than me?!??!

I'm not. I was fifteen when Challenger went down. I remember it vividly.

It was the first time it ever occurred to me that space flight was dangerous, and now I look back and I'm amazed that we haven't lost more shuttle flights than we have in the history of the program.


Freehold DM wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
I'm too young to remember the Challenger, but I do recall the Columbia.

...

Why is everyone slowly becoming younger than me?!??!

I was a senior in high school. In journalism class. Standing next to my teacher.

"Go interview the physics teacher today, Heath. The technical stuff is your story."

So I say to thee Rejoice, O young man, in thy youth; and let thy heart cheer thee in the days of thy youth, and walk in the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine eyes:
.
Heh heh.....feel better now?


I remember that vaguely only. Mostly the general idea that I heard that Challenger crashed and then watching a few clips in news - still even on the other side of the Iron Curtain it was mentioned. Of the same year I remember much better Chernobyl disaster... Probably because it was much-much closer and grandma took me to doctor as soon as the news spread.
Funny, now when I check it - I was alwyas having general feeling that Challenger distater took place in spring or summer and Chernobyl in late summer or early autumn.


Cuchulainn wrote:

January 29, 1986 - The space shuttle Challenger exploded 74 seconds after lift-off, killing all 7 crew members, including Christa McAuliffe, the first teacher to be chosen as a member of a shuttle crew.

Wow. I feel old. I remember sitting in my school cafeteria, when the principle came in and made the announcement. I was in 7th grade.

We spent the whole rest of the school day discussing the tragedy. My teacher even turned on the television in the classroom and we watched the newsreel repeat the explosion over and over as the "experts" debated what exactly happened.

For years after, my parents had hanging on their wall a framed news clipping of a political cartoon showing a bald eagle staring up towards the stars and weeping.

I was 15 going on 16 when that happened, 'twas the topic of discussion in high school.

There were fierce debates regarding the merits of the space program at that time.

They are still missed.


Matthew Morris wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
I'm too young to remember the Challenger, but I do recall the Columbia.

...

Why is everyone slowly becoming younger than me?!??!

Younger than you? I was in eighth grade when we lost the Challenger. I remember being told by another kid in the lunch line and I laughed it off. Then I went to the science lab (I was allowed out of the caffeteria, even back then the rules didn't apply to me) and the 7th graders next door were watching it on TV...

I've always been told our Chem/Physics teacher at the time was one of the finalists. 'But for the grace of God...'.

(Anyone who went to Watkins memorial in the 90's, same teacher.)

I was in eighth grade and I remember this occurring while I was at lunch and I remember the staff actually bringing a tv into the cafeteria so we could all follow it.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
I'm too young to remember the Challenger, but I do recall the Columbia.

...

Why is everyone slowly becoming younger than me?!??!

I was 2 years old at the time.
AAAARRRGGGHH!!!
I was 10 months old.
AAAAARRRRGGGGHHH!!!!

2nd grade. Ours was the only TV in the school, and the principal came running in and turned it on to watch the news.

I was a HUGE space buff, and remember reading in my astronomy magazine about Crista McAuliff (sp). I still remember the look on her students' faces as they watched the launch.

:(

Liberty's Edge

I was in my dorm room during my first year at college and had just turned on the radio. A voice said "... no survivors." And there were a few moments of silence before the next song started. I could tell something important happened.

Later that afternoon the TV was on in the gathering area and everyone stood around to watch it. My heart was pounding.


Garydee wrote:
I was in high school at the time. Feel better Freehold?

I was a young infantryman in Korea.


Drejk wrote:

I remember that vaguely only. Mostly the general idea that I heard that Challenger crashed and then watching a few clips in news - still even on the other side of the Iron Curtain it was mentioned. Of the same year I remember much better Chernobyl disaster... Probably because it was much-much closer and grandma took me to doctor as soon as the news spread.

Funny, now when I check it - I was alwyas having general feeling that Challenger distater took place in spring or summer and Chernobyl in late summer or early autumn.

Wow. I could have sworn that Chernobyl was two years earlier, but it was indeed in the same year (26th of April, to be exact). This was probably a more important event from an European point of view, but the pictures of the Challenger explosion are a vivid memory as well - everyone was shocked and discussed it. But then, Chernobyl changed everything, especially the view of nuclear energy. (I was sixteen that year, for the record).

Stefan


Stebehil wrote:
Wow. I could have sworn that Chernobyl was two years earlier, but it was indeed in the same year (26th of April, to be exact). This was probably a more important event from an European point of view, but the pictures of the Challenger explosion are a vivid memory as well - everyone was shocked and discussed it.

I was almost six when Challenger crashed. I remember short clip of Challenger disaster - and any Chernobyl photos I can think of are from much-much later time. On the other hand Chernobyl "burned" in my mind due to visit to the doctor to administer potassium iodine (at least that should be it according to wiki, I remember term "iodine" being used), doctor telling that it is too late and we should come earlier and grandma asking for it to be applied anyway.

On the other hand for a long time thereafter when me and my brother was thinking/devising spaceships Challenger was the first name we could think of. At least until we got our focus on star wars which were shown in Polish television year or two later.

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LazarX wrote:

You remember the Challenger? Fortunately I wasn't old enough to remember Apollo 1, but my strongest memories will always be watching that incredibly ditorted and grainy picture broadcast from the moon, while hearing Neil Armstrong say.

"A small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."

We have photos of my older sister taking her first steps in front of the TV, as Neil Armstrong's first steps on the moon were being broadcast.

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Garydee wrote:
I was in high school at the time. Feel better Freehold?

See, some of us are older than you, FHDM. I was in high school as well.


When the Challenger exploded I was in Germany with US Army getting ready to return to US. That would make me about 37.


This was the day after my father unexpectedly passed away, a week before my 22nd birthday. I remember reading it in the Wednesday newspapers, and thinking, academically, that it was terrible, but feeling absolutely nothing, because I was still numb.

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