2 Questions: Deadly Aim and Lightning Reload+Signature Deed?


Gunslinger Discussion: Round 1

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I'm really enjoying the look of the Gunslinger class. It just screams cowboy or cowgirl. Makes one want to watch a western. That being said I did have a few questions

1st: Would I be able to Deadly Aim with a firearm within the first range increment?

the text for Deadly Aim goes as following:

Deadly Aim (Combat)
You can make exceptionally deadly ranged attacks by
pinpointing a foe’s weak spot, at the expense of making
the attack less likely to succeed.
Prerequisites: Dex 13, base attack bonus +1.
Benefit: You can choose to take a –1 penalty on all
ranged attack rolls to gain a +2 bonus on all ranged damage
rolls. When your base attack bonus reaches +4, and every
+4 thereafter, the penalty increases by –1 and the bonus
to damage increases by +2. You must choose to use this
feat before making an attack roll and its effects last until
your next turn. The bonus damage does not apply to touch
attacks
or effects that do not deal hit point damage.

Since an attack against someone within the first range increment is resolved against the target's touch AC but outside of the first range increment it is resolved as normal attack. Does this mean that I'd have to be in the second range increment to be able to make use of deadly aim? Seems a bit... awkward as then I have to suffer the -2 to fire at long range just to be able to use deadly aim.

2nd: Can Lightning Reload Deed work in conjunction with Signature Deed? The name of the Lightning Reload Deed feat implies that it is in effect a Deed and thus can be affected by Signature Deed yet its format is different from the Deft Shootist Deed which is like so:

Deft Shootist Deed (Grit)
You can avoid attacks while shooting and reloading
firearms.
Prerequisites: Grit class feature or Amateur Gunslinger
feat, Dodge
Benefit: You gain the deft shootist deed.
Deft Shootist (Ex): Spend 1 grit point as a free action. You
do not provoke attacks of opportunity when shooting or
reloading your firearm until the end of your turn.

This implies that the Deft Shootist Deed feat is actually giving the gunslinger a real deed while the other 'deed' feats are simply feats that you can spend grit to activate despite the word "Deed" in there names. This makes me under the impression that Signature Deed can't be used to augment Lightning Reload Deed which could bring up some damage issues in the future when comparing to the archer. Just a few questions I thought I'd voice out. Thanks for any response.

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xevious573 wrote:

I'm really enjoying the look of the Gunslinger class. It just screams cowboy or cowgirl. Makes one want to watch a western. That being said I did have a few questions

1st: Would I be able to Deadly Aim with a firearm within the first range increment?

the text for Deadly Aim goes as following:

Deadly Aim (Combat)
You can make exceptionally deadly ranged attacks by
pinpointing a foe’s weak spot, at the expense of making
the attack less likely to succeed.
Prerequisites: Dex 13, base attack bonus +1.
Benefit: You can choose to take a –1 penalty on all
ranged attack rolls to gain a +2 bonus on all ranged damage
rolls. When your base attack bonus reaches +4, and every
+4 thereafter, the penalty increases by –1 and the bonus
to damage increases by +2. You must choose to use this
feat before making an attack roll and its effects last until
your next turn. The bonus damage does not apply to touch
attacks
or effects that do not deal hit point damage.

Since an attack against someone within the first range increment is resolved against the target's touch AC but outside of the first range increment it is resolved as normal attack. Does this mean that I'd have to be in the second range increment to be able to make use of deadly aim? Seems a bit... awkward as then I have to suffer the -2 to fire at long range just to be able to use deadly aim.

At the moment, no deadly aim + touch ac

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xevious573 wrote:


2nd: Can Lightning Reload Deed work in conjunction with Signature Deed? The name of the Lightning Reload Deed feat implies that it is in effect a Deed and thus can be affected by Signature Deed yet its format is different from the Deft Shootist Deed which is like so:

Deft Shootist Deed (Grit)
You can avoid attacks while shooting and reloading
firearms.
Prerequisites: Grit class feature or Amateur Gunslinger
feat, Dodge
Benefit: You gain the deft shootist deed.
Deft Shootist (Ex): Spend 1 grit point as a free action. You
do not provoke attacks of opportunity when shooting or
reloading your firearm until the end of your turn.

This implies that...

And currently, this is the only way to get a half-decent full attack off.

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