Word Count Tool - Suggestion


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Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Seth White wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
So what is it that you want?

I'd like the buttons to actually read "Cake" and 'Death."

Please.

We need more "Cake"

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Seth White wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
So what is it that you want?

I'd like the buttons to actually read "Cake" and 'Death."

Please.

In addition, I'd like the buttons to actually produce cake and kill someone when pressed.

If the buttons don't do that, your contest, company, parenting, and grooming will forever be discredited.


Yes, well, the less said about our pursuit of that particular Absalom myth, the better. I still haven't washed the sewer slime out my my second best cape.
But the point is, it's obvious that mischief is afoot and we need to go and hunt it down and root it out. Plus we have a surplus of kindling we need to clear out of our stores, and a bonfire or two is always good at this time of year.
Come, my flunkie! Let us go and seek out and put to the match evil wherever it lurks, in whichever of its numerous seductive guises.
<swirls cape dramatically, departs thread>


Sebastian wrote:
Seth White wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
So what is it that you want?

I'd like the buttons to actually read "Cake" and 'Death."

Please.

In addition, I'd like the buttons to actually produce cake and kill someone when pressed.

If the buttons don't do that, your contest, company, parenting, and grooming will forever be discredited.

Especially their grooming.


Hopeless, absolutely hopeless.
<exits thread, shaking head and running after boss desperately>


Ross Byers wrote:


Do you want us to provide better examples for how to use the submission tool and preview functions? Then you are right, we should. And we'll be revisiting that before next years contest.

So what is it that you want?

This seems like a reasonable step in the right direction, which is all anyone can really ask for. At this point (and when I submitted) I think the wordcount-in-preview is pretty common knowledge but it didn't seem to be for the first few days of the contest.


<emerges from cover behind a stack of beanpoles>
Damn. He's onto me. I should have realised he'd find out about Griffon's Nest sooner or later.
I hope he doesn't know about the boggard alliance.
<heads out of thread in exactly the opposite direction to that taken by the WHG and his flunkie>

Shadow Lodge

The Andoren Witch wrote:

<emerges from cover behind a stack of beanpoles>

Damn. He's onto me. I should have realised he'd find out about Griffon's Nest sooner or later.
I hope he doesn't know about the boggard alliance.
<heads out of thread in exactly the opposite direction to that taken by the WHG and his flunkie>

Wow. Really?


The Andoren Witch wrote:

<emerges from cover behind a stack of beanpoles>

Damn. He's onto me. I should have realised he'd find out about Griffon's Nest sooner or later.
I hope he doesn't know about the boggard alliance.
<heads out of thread in exactly the opposite direction to that taken by the WHG and his flunkie>

Normally, when a person isn't interested in a topic, they just don't read it instead of making 15 completely offtopic posts in an hour. :P

In case you were wondering.


Ross Byers wrote:

Do you want us to provide better examples for how to use the submission tool and preview functions? Then you are right, we should. And we'll be revisiting that before next years contest.

So what is it that you want?

The only point I was making here was a word count tool would be better provided stand-alone, unrelated to the submission of entries for the contest.

Shadow Lodge

When did this thread get moved to the "Rules Discussion Lawyers vs. Off Topic All Stars PBP" subforum? ;-)

Liberty's Edge

Crowface wrote:
When did this thread get moved to the "Rules Discussion Lawyers vs. Off Topic All Stars PBP" subforum? ;-)

THIS FORUM WOULD BE AMAZING


Crowface wrote:
When did this thread get moved to the "Rules Discussion Lawyers vs. Off Topic All Stars PBP" subforum? ;-)

Dear Crowface,

I believe that pretty much since they started the entire Paizo boards could be described as "Rules Discussion Lawyers vs. Off Topic All Stars PBP". The mixing is not always obvious, and at some times and in some places one side may be in temporary ascendancy over the other, but still...

Hoping that you found this answer Helpful (or I may have to bring in the pirhana tanks).
Yours,

Ask A Succubus.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 , Star Voter Season 7

Cartigan wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:

Do you want us to provide better examples for how to use the submission tool and preview functions? Then you are right, we should. And we'll be revisiting that before next years contest.

So what is it that you want?

The only point I was making here was a word count tool would be better provided stand-alone, unrelated to the submission of entries for the contest.

Ah. I personally disagree (since the word count really has no use outside the contest), but I assure you we will discuss it for next years competition.


Jeremiziah wrote:
Crowface wrote:
When did this thread get moved to the "Rules Discussion Lawyers vs. Off Topic All Stars PBP" subforum? ;-)
THIS FORUM WOULD BE AMAZING

But what if you rules lawyer the off-topic content?!?!?!

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Cartigan wrote:
Jeremiziah wrote:
Crowface wrote:
When did this thread get moved to the "Rules Discussion Lawyers vs. Off Topic All Stars PBP" subforum? ;-)
THIS FORUM WOULD BE AMAZING
But what if you rules lawyer the off-topic content?!?!?!

They'll just move off-topic. Hey, I want that forum too !


Ross Byers wrote:


Ah. I personally disagree (since the word count really has no use outside the contest), but I assure you we will discuss it for next years competition.

To me, part of the value (such as it is) is for the 11 months of the year in which you might come up with a contest idea that you're wanting to play around with and/or measure but couldn't actually submit.

(Although I think one's word processor of choice's word count is probably close enough for that purpose.)

RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 , Star Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Evil Space Mantis

deinol wrote:

From a UI design perspective (I am a computer programmer) it would improve things if there wasn't a submit button until after you've hit preview. It isn't as necessary with regular messageboard posts because you can edit within the first 30 minutes or so, but the black box that is submission should probably have a confirmation step.

Another thing that would be nice (but is in no way required) is a confirmation e-mail that is automatically generated as a sort of receipt. "Thank you for entering RPG Superstar 2XXX, your entry is as follows: ..... Word Count: 297."

While any process can improve over time, it is definitely unrealistic to expect additional changes to happen this time around. It is also way better to give polite suggestions instead of angry demands.

In a crazed attempt to get this back more or less on topic, I think these are both very reasonable suggestions for improvements for next year. That extra 'are you sure?' might lead to fewer auto-rejects, and I wouldn't mind having a receipt so I can spot my super obvious typo after its too late without having to wait a month :P

Just didn't want to see good ideas lost in the shuffle of crazy posts.

Shadow Lodge

So, you're group turns the corner and about fifty feet later the corridor opens into a larger chamber. Water drips from the ceiling, reminding you that only about a few hundred feet of stone separates you and Lake Algornia above.

The cavern is roughly three hundred feet in diameter with no discernible entrance or exit other than where your group stands. In the middle of the chamber, lying contently upon a huge pile of gold, jewels, and miscellaneous other odds and ends, is the largest dragon you have ever seen. The dragon's shiny red scales reflect the light coming from various torches lining the chamber walls and tendrils of smoke rise from his massive nostrils.

The dragon's eyes are closed and his enormous chest rise and fall in a rhythmic pattern of what seems to be sleep. What does your party wish to do?

Owner - House of Books and Games LLC , Marathon Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7

Lachlan Rocksoul wrote:

So, you're group turns the corner and about fifty feet later the corridor opens into a larger chamber. Water drips from the ceiling, reminding you that only about a few hundred feet of stone separates you and Lake Algornia above.

The cavern is roughly three hundred feet in diameter with no discernible entrance or exit other than where your group stands. In the middle of the chamber, lying contently upon a huge pile of gold, jewels, and miscellaneous other odds and ends, is the largest dragon you have ever seen. The dragon's shiny red scales reflect the light coming from various torches lining the chamber walls and tendrils of smoke rise from his massive nostrils.

The dragon's eyes are closed and his enormous chest rise and fall in a rhythmic pattern of what seems to be sleep. What does your party wish to do?

(breaks a sword over his knee, goes back to 1940, and kills the dragon as Enter the Sandman blares in the background)

Liberty's Edge

Lachlan Rocksoul wrote:
lying contently upon a huge pile of gold, jewels, and miscellaneous other odds and ends, is the largest dragon you have ever seen.

I have never seen a dragon before. Please provide the dragon's actual size. Also, per a thread on this very board about a week ago, "dragon on a bed of coins" is a mathematical fallacy, your imagination be damned.

;-)


gbonehead wrote:
(breaks a sword over his knee, goes back to 1940, and kills the dragon as Enter the Sandman blares in the background)

.

Dreams of war!
Dreams of lies!
Dreams of dragon's fire!
And the things that will bite...
YEAH!!


First off, gbonehead, you breaking the sword would send you back to 1940 next to HITLER. Second, the sword would reform in your hand as though it wasn't broken and would will you to kill HITLER, not the dragon. Which in turn would open you up for an attack from said dragon.

LachlanRocksoul wrote:

So, you're group turns the corner and about fifty feet later the corridor opens into a larger chamber. Water drips from the ceiling, reminding you that only about a few hundred feet of stone separates you and Lake Algornia above.

The cavern is roughly three hundred feet in diameter with no discernible entrance or exit other than where your group stands. In the middle of the chamber, lying contently upon a huge pile of gold, jewels, and miscellaneous other odds and ends, is the largest dragon you have ever seen. The dragon's shiny red scales reflect the light coming from various torches lining the chamber walls and tendrils of smoke rise from his massive nostrils.

The dragon's eyes are closed and his enormous chest rise and fall in a rhythmic pattern of what seems to be sleep. What does your party wish to do?

I look at all my companions and then sneak into the cavern to take a closer look at the loot the dragon is laying on. If I find something I believe I would use I then wake the dragon and offer to buy said item.

When dragon awakens, if he wants to destroy me I then stand tall and point to companions and say I was forced to this place by them against my will, I would never ever think of disturbing one as great as you otherwise.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Ross Byers wrote:
Cartigan wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:

Do you want us to provide better examples for how to use the submission tool and preview functions? Then you are right, we should. And we'll be revisiting that before next years contest.

So what is it that you want?

The only point I was making here was a word count tool would be better provided stand-alone, unrelated to the submission of entries for the contest.
Ah. I personally disagree (since the word count really has no use outside the contest), but I assure you we will discuss it for next years competition.

Implementing a standalone non-submission-form word counter would cause more harm than good, as some people would mistake it for the submission form, and fail to actually submit.

We have a word counter. It works just fine for the purposes of this contest. I'm marking this bug report as "not really a bug."

Move along.

Star Voter Season 8

Crowface wrote:
When did this thread get moved to the "Rules Discussion Lawyers vs. Off Topic All Stars PBP" subforum? ;-)

That would be a wonderful MXC show.

RPG Superstar 2009 Top 16, 2012 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka Epic Meepo

gbonehead wrote:
Lachlan Rocksoul wrote:
The dragon's eyes are closed and his enormous chest rise and fall in a rhythmic pattern of what seems to be sleep. What does your party wish to do?
(breaks a sword over his knee, goes back to 1940, and kills the dragon as Enter the Sandman blares in the background)

(makes out with pommel)

Dear Paizo,

This thread has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that your website needs to be changed. The "Submit" button is far to close to the "Put Foot in Mouth" button.

Owner - House of Books and Games LLC , Marathon Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7

Eric Morton wrote:
gbonehead wrote:
Lachlan Rocksoul wrote:
The dragon's eyes are closed and his enormous chest rise and fall in a rhythmic pattern of what seems to be sleep. What does your party wish to do?
(breaks a sword over his knee, goes back to 1940, and kills the dragon as Enter the Sandman blares in the background)

(makes out with pommel)

Dear Paizo,

This thread has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that your website needs to be changed. The "Submit" button is far to close to the "Put Foot in Mouth" button.

And it's Eric Morton for the win!

Scarab Sages

Seth White wrote:

I'd like the buttons to actually read "Cake" and 'Death."

Please.

I'd like them to say 'Death' and 'Mau Mau'.

Dark Archive Contributor , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Boxhead

As a serious aside, did people really miss all the pointers to the official word count? Or are people mad that you have to hit a "submit" button to submit? I just can't see the complaint. There was a button that let you preview the item, gave you a word count and check the bbc code. I think if you failed that "test", you likely had more issues than just these. If an item actually had just these problems, I suspect that the Paizo web team may have "fixed" them, or the judges ignored them (barring the over-word-count item). I seem to recall that in past years Vic has added item names to the title bar, and removed personal names from items. He (they) may not have had time(or inclination) this year, but I have no idea.


<shuffles blearily into thread, and starts poking round>
Arrr, this does not have the look of The Iron Mermaid tavern - well not unless there has been a great deal of redecoration. I know there was much rough-housing at The Mermaid last night, but I did not think there was sufficient damage to have left the place looking like this. Besides, if this were The Mermaid there should be that scurvy dog of a door-keep, Alphonse the Killer Gnoll, hanging round like a bad halibut, with his posh tuxedo, confounded snobbery and that blasted monocle. Even were The Mermaid demolished to timbers and ironmongery (as indeed it has been on at least two occasions when I have been present) that thrice-cursed gnoll would still be standing where the door had been, guarding the rubble.
And if this be not The Mermaid I doubt I shall find my wooden leg in these parts...
<shuffles out of thread>

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