Behemoth Hippo vs Tyrannosaurus


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Behemoth hippo is CR 10.

Hp 133, AC 23; +14/+8/+7 saves.
Bite +17 (4d8+13 19-20/ plus grab), reach 15 ft.
Capsize, trample (2d6 + 13 DC 26)

T-Rex is CR 9.

Hp 153, AC 21; +15/+12/+10 saves.
Bite +20 (4d6+22 19-20/ plus grab), reach 20 ft.
Swallow whole (2d8+11)

Is there something I'm missing? In every area except 2 points of AC, the T-Rex completely outstrips the behemoth. (behemoth is also 10 ft. faster)

I could see a case for them being the same CR, but if there is to be a difference, it should go the other way.


IMO Trample is better and more versatile than Swallow whole, but I agree that the CRs are hard to figure out.


Also doen't the Hippo have a swim speed? (if it doesn't it should) Even without, it should be assumed you are fighting one in the water, and that makes it intrinsically more difficult to fight. sure the T rex may win on land, but that's because land isn't where a Hippo lives.


Lap-Lem wrote:
Also doen't the Hippo have a swim speed? (if it doesn't it should) Even without, it should be assumed you are fighting one in the water, and that makes it intrinsically more difficult to fight. sure the T rex may win on land, but that's because land isn't where a Hippo lives.

It does not have a swim speed. It does have a swim modifier of +13.

I find it hard to believe that fighting in or near water makes up for the slew of mechanical advantages that the T-rex has. Even behemoth power attacking is less overall damage due to the lower attack bonus. [+14 bite (4d8+19)]

23-51 (avg 37) vs 26-48 (avg 37), but +14 vs +20 is a rather large gap.


Look, sure, in a normal encounter the t-rex might win. But stage the encounter over several weeks, in the blistering heat, and see where the t-rex's fancy Swallow Whole gets him then.


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Damnit, I really wish this thread title were a video title. I wish it sooooo badly.


Oh, and try to put the two in an area with some sort of ghoul fever outbreak. That always helps. There's no ghoul template, so the moment the t-rex falls victim, he turns right into a puny two hit dice ghoul! Check and mate!


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As an impartial judge, looking purely at the stat blocks, I have to say

GET REKT SCRUBOPOTAMUS


Tell it to the hippo's +1 advantage in Fortitude saves versus disease. There's a reason you guys went extinct, and it's bird flu, birdbrain!


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I don't have to take this from some chubby swamp floater. Come back when you're an apex predator, kid.


Can we consider the T-Rex a boat? Also, follow-up question, can we consider the T-Rex to be "the hippo's size or smaller"? Just asking.


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Things that do not fit in my stomach are largely fictitious.


Vital Strike Tyrannosaurus wrote:
Things that do not fit in my stomach are largely fictitious.

*waits for blue whale to come falling out of the sky to crush all beneath it's blubbery bulk*


Vital Strike Tyrannosaurus wrote:
I don't have to take this from some chubby swamp floater. Come back when you're an apex predator, kid.

Chubby swamp floater - thank you VST, you just gave me my newest poop euphemism!

Sovereign Court

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Arikiel wrote:
Vital Strike Tyrannosaurus wrote:
Things that do not fit in my stomach are largely fictitious.
*waits for blue whale to come falling out of the sky to crush all beneath it's blubbery bulk*

Don't be silly. Blue whales don't just fall from the sky.

You're thinking of sperm whales.

Shadow Lodge

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thegreenteagamer wrote:
Damnit, I really wish this thread title were a video title. I wish it sooooo badly.

Give the SyFy Channel time. They'll eventually get to it.


Wow, what shameless thread necromancy.

Grand Lodge

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Kalindlara wrote:
Arikiel wrote:
Vital Strike Tyrannosaurus wrote:
Things that do not fit in my stomach are largely fictitious.
*waits for blue whale to come falling out of the sky to crush all beneath it's blubbery bulk*

Don't be silly. Blue whales don't just fall from the sky.

You're thinking of sperm whales.

Beautiful, naked, women just don't fall out of the sky, you know.


I'm completely okay with this thread getting raised.

For some reason.

Shadow Lodge

It's better to have a sperm whale fall on you out of the sky than to have whale sperm fall on you out of the sky.

:P


No. No its not.


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Depending how high up it falls from, the sperm could kill you as easily as the whale.

One is just tragic, the other makes it impossible to not laugh at the funeral.

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