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I did some sifting on the inter-webs and found some creatures that don't fit into the European and Asian cultures (not that there's anything wrong with creatures from those cultures, there is a lot there).

Abada (African): A small creature, about the size of a donkey that has two large crooked horns that can cure poisons and disease.

Boo Hag (American, South Carolina): A cross between a hag and a vampire. It turns into a mist and steals the breath from sleeping victims. This act is called "riding", I'm guessing because the boo hag straddles their victims.

Cadejo (Central American): Actually two creatures. Both are large shaggy dogs (about the size of a cow) with glowing red eyes. One is white and one black (good and evil, depending on the culture's view of those colors). The good one helps and protects travelers; the evil one devours them (of course).

Ewah (Cherokee): Also called a Wampus Cat. A cat woman that hunts men, and not in the good way.

Ijiraq (Inuit): A shapeshifter who steals children.

Nasnas (Arabian): A demon that resembles half a person, as in split down the middle. They hop to get around. They were in the Al-Qadim books as well.

If you like fey, you should check out Hawaiian Lore. Lots of fey like creatures.


Mogre wrote:

I did some sifting on the inter-webs and found some creatures that don't fit into the European and Asian cultures (not that there's anything wrong with creatures from those cultures, there is a lot there).

Abada (African): A small creature, about the size of a donkey that has two large crooked horns that can cure poisons and disease.

Boo Hag (American, South Carolina): A cross between a hag and a vampire. It turns into a mist and steals the breath from sleeping victims. This act is called "riding", I'm guessing because the boo hag straddles their victims.

A less NSFW description would be a literal one, but my knowledge of this creature mostly comes from children's books. :P


El tunche (peruvian jungle): most badass fey ever.

Humbly,
Yawar


Read up some more on the Boo Hag. You're right, many children's books written about it. Apparently they steal their victim's skin as well, a form of shapeshifting I guess. An American Classic apparently.


Mogre wrote:
Read up some more on the Boo Hag. You're right, many children's books written about it. Apparently they steal their victim's skin as well, a form of shapeshifting I guess. An American Classic apparently.

Is it like the Japanese demon which is sometimes observed repainting the skin to keep it convincing?

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Goth Guru wrote:
Mogre wrote:
Read up some more on the Boo Hag. You're right, many children's books written about it. Apparently they steal their victim's skin as well, a form of shapeshifting I guess. An American Classic apparently.

Is it like the Japanese demon which is sometimes observed repainting the skin to keep it convincing?

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It may have some African roots, as the story was told in the American South, mainly amongst slaves and free blacks. The boo hag wears a woman's skin, but sheds it at night to feed. She transforms into a mist to travel and either feeds by sitting on her victim's chest and sucking the breath out of him or riding on their back and draining their energy (I've read a story about this one when I was in the 6th Grade, a long time ago).

While I was looking up information for this thread, I did get a sense of similarity between the cultures. You see a similar creature wrapped in a different suit with different lore. The dragon looked to be the most common. Every culture has a story about a dragon or dragon like creature of some sort it seems.


Mogre wrote:
Goth Guru wrote:
Mogre wrote:
Read up some more on the Boo Hag. You're right, many children's books written about it. Apparently they steal their victim's skin as well, a form of shapeshifting I guess. An American Classic apparently.

Is it like the Japanese demon which is sometimes observed repainting the skin to keep it convincing?

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It may have some African roots, as the story was told in the American South, mainly amongst slaves and free blacks. The boo hag wears a woman's skin, but sheds it at night to feed. She transforms into a mist to travel and either feeds by sitting on her victim's chest and sucking the breath out of him or riding on their back and draining their energy (I've read a story about this one when I was in the 6th Grade, a long time ago).

While I was looking up information for this thread, I did get a sense of similarity between the cultures. You see a similar creature wrapped in a different suit with different lore. The dragon looked to be the most common. Every culture has a story about a dragon or dragon like creature of some sort it seems.

Indeed, there is the American Indian skindancer, and in Russia there was a man who used a belt of Bear fur to become a killer Were Bear. He became such a beast that he had no alignment and had to be put down by an angry mob.


No love for the Tunche :(.


How about Lichlings & Wichtlin?

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Twin Agate Dragons wrote:
How about Lichlings & Wichtlin?

Wichtlin from Dragonlance? Those are really cool...


Ah, I just remembered. How about a Flail Snail?


YawarFiesta wrote:

No love for the Tunche :(.

My searches indicate that a Tunche is a person that acts like a cold tuna at a party. I can't even find anything about the movie El Tunche. Is it a monster or a wrestler? Who knows?

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Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Ah, I just remembered. How about a Flail Snail?

Flail Snail appeared in Misfit Monsters Redeemed. If monsters from Campaign Setting books will be in Bestiary 3, I'd also want to see (just for the sake of convenience) Dire Corby, Adherer and Lurker Above make it...


Goth Guru wrote:
YawarFiesta wrote:

No love for the Tunche :(.

My searches indicate that a Tunche is a person that acts like a cold tuna at a party. I can't even find anything about the movie El Tunche. Is it a monster or a wrestler? Who knows?

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Sorry for grammar mistakes, here is the most popular description of the Tunche, and my personal favorite.

El Tunche:
Nobody knows exactly what it is, but whats common between versions is that the ¨Tunche¨ is a mythical being that lives in the peruvian jungle, capable of taking any form in arder to seduce its victims and make them follow him. The only diference between the Tunche and the original being of wich it took its form are their foots, the ¨Tunche¨ has goat hoofs, and thats the only thing it can transform

There are many histories about this being, for example, there is the one about a person in the midle the jungle thinking of his wife or his family and the ¨Tunche¨ takes advantage of the weakness of his stalkee, shapeshifting into his loved ones and, through deceit, make his victims follow it, when the victim realices it, its far away from his encapment and absolutely lost.

The fate of the ¨Tunche's¨ victims its uncertain, its unknown if the ¨Tunche¨ abandons them to their own deveices and they die of hunger or devoured by another animal or if the ¨Tunche¨ itself devours them.

Here is the translation of the Wikipedia article, the original article is in spanish:

Mas Tunche:
The evil tunche is a being that walks during the dark nights of the peruvian jungle, like an unrestful spirit, some say its a bird, others that it is a witch or an evil spirit ¨a fiend¨ that delights itself terrorizing people. But nobody has ever see it, and every recognices with fear when in the midle of darkness it throws a piercing whistling ¨feen..feen..feen¨ that for an instant disapears into the wild, far away, but then returns to whistle over the roof of a house or at the shore of a river.

There exist the belief that when a Tuche whistles with insistence in the surroundings of a comunity its a bad omen and when it does it over a house, it brings deacease and death.

Mocking the Tunchi or Tunche or insulting its unwise, to say the least, because it will infuriate it and the the Tunche will attack with greater insistence,whistling and whistling it will chase and harras so much that even the bravest will end up enter such a great panic state that, will either go insane or die.

Humbly,
Yawar


The Nosferatu, other types of vampires, and the vampire Lord template would rule.


I'd like to see a positive planar touched playable race.
I mean they have fetchlings but no positive plane touched.

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Archetype like templates
--- Azata and Archon templates that count as or be used in place of celestial templates when used for paladin mount or the like
Or
--- Devil or Demon templates that count as or be used in place of fiendish templates when used for anti-paladin mount or the like

Scarab Sages

I know Paizo = Pathfinder, but I'd love to see them do a collaborative book with ArenaNet and do a "Guild Wars: Campaign Setting" book.

We'd get a small, intelligent race, catfolk that are NOT fanservice, and a veritable plethora of new monsters, or new takes on monsters (Titans, the Corrupted, Mursaat, Siege Wurms, and more).

Or at least do add those to the bestiary.

The Exchange Kobold Press

I'd like to see a few more explicitly Mythos creatures to add to the Denizens, shoggoths, and hounds.

I'd also like to see some of the creatures from Northlands, but I may be biased there.

And devils and demons. There ALWAYS need to be more demons and devils.

Scarab Sages

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Wolfgang Baur wrote:
I'd also like to see some of the creatures from Northlands, but I may be biased there.

Valkyries!


I shortened the list of what I’d like to see in the Bestiary 3 plus made some improvements (hope that helps Asgetrion):

Agathion, Ceratonal (Rhino-like Agathion more powerful than Leonals but less powerful than Loxonals)

Agathion, Loxonal (Elephant-like Agathion nearly equal in power to the Draconal and higher in station than a Ceratonal)

Angel, Cherubar (powerful Angels who act as a prevention force against fiendish incursions in the Material Plane)

Angel, Seraphar (angels whose powerful voices can produce numerous ill effects for evil beings)

Ape, Tyrant [Megaprimatus] (huge apes often worshiped as gods on tropical islands and in the jungles of the Mwangi Expanse)

Archon, Feather (Archons whose massive and beautiful feathered wings can become as sharp as razor blades)

Archon, Sword (Winged archons clad in golden platemail who carry vorpal greatswords and administer entire cities of heaven)

Azata, Nedagha (Powerful Azata who promote freedom and liberate the oppressed across the Multiverse)

Azata, Rusalka (Aquatic azata who seek to safeguard the good-aligned aquatic races of several material worlds)

Cackle Bird (Large feathered birds of prey who can breath clouds of laughter causing vapor)

Devil, Pleasure (Lucunagon) (devils who seek to damn the innocent to hell by offering physical pleasure)

Dragon [Chromatic], Brown (Wrathful dragons of the desert who have fiery breath and the ability to manipulate sand)

Dragon [Chromatic], Yellow (Treacherous dragons of the jungle with electric breath and a tendency for betrayal)

Dragon [Metallic], Cobalt (Dragons of the frozen arctic who use their icy breath and immense strength to protect and teach good-aligned humanoids of the north)

Dragon [Metallic], Orium (Intellectual dragons who dwell in ancient ruins seeking to secure the future by safeguarding the relics of the past with their acid breath)

Golem, Doll (Infant-sized doll-like golems whose bite can cause one to break out into deadly laughter)

Golem, Bone (Golems made of the bones of dead monsters that can unleash a frightening shriek)

Golem, Gold (Golems made of solid gold that while malleable also possess potent healing powers)

Golem, Steel (Golems made of solid steel with extraordinary durability as well as a sonic breath weapon)

Herald of the Great Old Ones (Ancient and terrible beings whose mere presence causes insanity)

Maelstrom (Colossally large evil cloud-like elementals who rain thunder, hail, and wind upon bystanders and civilization)

Skeleton, Nova (Template) (Skeletons that crackle with electrical power)

Zombie, Ooze (Template) (Zombies whose form is almost ooze-like)


Wolfgang Baur wrote:
I'd like to see a few more explicitly Mythos creatures to add to the Denizens, shoggoths, and hounds.

I'd love to see write-ups for the Mi-go, the Elder Things, and the Great Race of Yith.

Wolfgang Baur wrote:

I'd also like to see some of the creatures from Northlands, but I may be biased there.

And devils and demons. There ALWAYS need to be more demons and devils.

And agreed on both of these as well.


Machine Age Dragon, basically a dragon that is a golem. Maybe a Mechzilla thing.

Gold Pieces o' Death, you think their gold until you put them with your treasure and they start eating everything!

Rotten Assassins, assassins that were killed before they finished their last job and now walk the earth looking to do so.

The Mind Joiners, an offshoot of the Mind Flayers that do not wish to devour human's brains but to join with them in symbiotic relationships. They have traded their mind blast for a peace ray.

The Scarecrows from the first fiend folio.

The Filth Men, humanoids that herd otyughs. Some say they feed off their "milk".

Screamers of Disunity, a group dedicated to the destruction of music and the death of all bards!

booger=boy


I forgot Ive seen in the last couple of weeks in "dnd" and elsewhere Elephant men. Not the movie guy, but humanoids with elephant heads. That'd be cool too.

booger=boy


What are the chances that we could get a few more higher level azatas? I think the highest CR is 17 (the brijidine in Bestiary II). I would love to see a CR 20 (or higher!) azata.


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Confirmed from Undead Revisited as being in the upcoming Bestiary 3.

Allip and Huecuva.

Paizo Employee Managing Developer

Naw, that's gotta be a misprint.


Justin Franklin wrote:

Confirmed from Undead Revisited as being in the upcoming Bestiary 3.

Allip and Huecuva.

Aren't those in bonus bestiary?


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doctor_wu wrote:
Justin Franklin wrote:

Confirmed from Undead Revisited as being in the upcoming Bestiary 3.

Allip and Huecuva.

Aren't those in bonus bestiary?

Yep they are.


They originally said that the monsters from the bonus beastairy would be in the Beastairy III.


I want stats for the great pumpkin! :-)

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The Forgotten wrote:
I want stats for the great pumpkin! :-)

I hear if you sit in the pumpkin patch at the right time, the stats will appear. Make sure to bring a bottle of water.

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Dire Platypus, Nuff said...


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*taunt taunt*

I know a few that'll be in it, care of being mentioned as being in it in the outline for a project I won't name. ;)

That doesn't help at all though, does it? But what do you expect? I'm evil.

Silver Crusade

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Tegresin the Laughing Fiend wrote:

*taunt taunt*

I know a few that'll be in it, care of being mentioned as being in it in the outline for a project I won't name. ;)

That doesn't help at all though, does it? But what do you expect? I'm evil.

Uh oh, Todd Stewart is in teasing mode. RUN!


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I am guessing we will see Oni and other Asian inspired monsters.

I will just ignore Todd's teasing.


Tegresin the Laughing Fiend wrote:

*taunt taunt*

I know a few that'll be in it, care of being mentioned as being in it in the outline for a project I won't name. ;)

That doesn't help at all though, does it? But what do you expect? I'm evil.

you evil teasing bastard ;)


I'd love to see more monsters garnered from folklore, rather than just made up from scratch. And I'd prefer their illustrations to resemble the most common descriptions given by witnesses and lore (the chupacabra in Bestiary 2 comes to mind. It looks like a low budget dinosaur with spikes on its back. Nothing like the "common" description and illustration that most appears online or in publications).

I reckon that's it.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Companion Subscriber

I have a few, some serious and some just plain silly, but I would love to see them in Bestiary 3, nonetheless.
Most of them are links to wikipedia pages

Nachtkrapp or Night Crow (Germany, Austria, Hungary, Etc): A large nocturnal crow that eats children.
Cactus Cat (North America): A Bobcat-like wild cat with cactus thorns instead of fur
Jackalope (Northa America): A combination of a Jack Rabbit and an Antelope or White Tail Deer.
Platypus(Australia): A magical combination of a duck, beaver, and an otter.
The Duck Bunny: An unnatural (Magical?) combination of a duck and a rabbit. Simply because I'd love to see how Paizo handle it.

Oh, and I would love to see the Flumph (Misfit Monsters Redeemed) and hopefully a host of Asian inspired monsters make an appearance in the new Bestiary as well.

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Mercury dragon with swarm-form rules

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Justin Franklin wrote:

Confirmed from Undead Revisited as being in the upcoming Bestiary 3.

Allip and Huecuva.

They also mentioned the Graveknight as being in Bestiary 3

Based on what was listed in UR I would also add: Demi-lich

If Mr. Jacobs cannot find a way to sneak in the Flying Polyps and Nightgaunts (both cut from AP 46) into the Jade Regent then I would hope they would end up in Bestiary 3.

If not B3 then maybe in Classic Mythos/Mythos Revisted series of books (lol, one can hope!)

Spoiler:
Elder Sign!


Avolakia !!

Silver Crusade

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Jim Mount wrote:
Avolakia !!

WotC IP.

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Jim Mount wrote:
Avolakia !!

I would like to see EVERYTHING not IP from Shackled City, Savage tide and Age of Worms...there were some awesome monsters there...

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Hama wrote:
Jim Mount wrote:
Avolakia !!
I would like to see EVERYTHING not IP from Shackled City, Savage tide and Age of Worms...there were some awesome monsters there...

Anything published in Dungeon and Dragon Magazine is IP, with a few exceptions that were made Open Content. With the exception of things that were in the SRD, anythign from the Dungeon Adventure Paths is IP.

Any D&D monster that isn't in the SRD or Tome of Horrors is off-limits, unless it's based on mythology (or is a historic creature).

Did I already mention that I'd like Frost Men/Frost Folk from the ToH?

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The Ubue

Don't know why but I like the odd three headed three armed three legged people, and if they are in thier they need playable stats! so people can play them as PCs


Gorbacz wrote:
Jim Mount wrote:
Avolakia !!
WotC IP.

Doh!

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Penanggalan,
Sidhe / Aos Sí,
Maenads (Bacchae or Bacchantes),
Asian Dragons,
NEW kytons & oni,
Táltos Horse,
Bánánach,
Demilich,
Scorpionfolk,
More creatures like the Tane, such as servants of the Eldest of the First World that don't exist yet in either Bestiary (the Sidhe/Aos Sí or Maenads may fit in that category, but other stuff would be great),
Bhut,
Sollux.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Is it the time?

Yes, I think it is!

So:

DEMODANDS!


Psychopomps

And... again, fey. More fey.

And more templates.

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