Bruunwald |
I never really liked the other SG series. They seemed too plastic to me. Like watching Voyager reruns. In fact, I used to sit and name off the ST:TNG/Voyager/DS9 plots the SG shows were ripping off. I won't say I never enjoyed it, just thought it was formulaic Sci-Fi and not too exciting.
Now, SGU, for all it borrowed from the BSG reboot (which was not just a great Sci-Fi show, but one of the best shows ever, period), actually kept my attention before Comcast ruined it and messed up the channels, forcing me to downgrade to the most basic.
No more SyFy for me, but it's been downhill for a long time anyway. Used to have that channel on constantly. Wouldn't have Comcast put it back on for free at this point.
Andrew Turner |
I wonder if both SGU and Caprica might have done better on a different network, like Fox. I think Fox has a better history of handling darker, humorless drama.
I think the legions of SG fans, who got used to some 12 years of seven or so super soldiers saving the planet each season really didn't know what to make of SGU-- which really had no heroic moments, no heroic characters, and often seemed, as a show, to have no definitive, understandable direction.
If you're like me, this is a welcome change--the truth is, life is much like this. SGU, in my opinion, had the most realistic set of characters the franchise has ever seen.
Arnwyn |
I heard it was all those SG:A fans that killed.
I'm not even sure how that's supposed to work. I thought ratings was all about a positive number - more people watch, the higher the ratings it gets.
Is he suggesting that somehow people can inflict negative ratings onto a show (with his rather bizarre "deliberately hurt us" comment)? (Or, is he just suggesting that consumers should just shut up and watch a bad show, just because it has "Stargate" in the title?)
Wacky.
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
pres man wrote:I heard it was all those SG:A fans that killed.I'm not even sure how that's supposed to work. I thought ratings was all about a positive number - more people watch, the higher the ratings it gets.
Is he suggesting that somehow people can inflict negative ratings onto a show (with his rather bizarre "deliberately hurt us" comment)? (Or, is he just suggesting that consumers should just shut up and watch a bad show, just because it has "Stargate" in the title?)
Wacky.
Agreed,
Though SG:A fans have a legitimate beef, IMHO. The Atlantis movie is so much vaporware, and if Conan does well, they might not be able to afford Jason Momoa.
brock |
I think the legions of SG fans, who got used to some 12 years of seven or so super soldiers saving the planet each season really didn't know what to make of SGU-- which really had no heroic moments, no heroic characters, and often seemed, as a show, to have no definitive, understandable direction.
If you're like me, this is a welcome change--the truth is, life is much like this. SGU, in my opinion, had the most realistic set of characters the franchise has ever seen.
It could have been great, but I think that the slow start was a mistake. I loved the show though, and Robert Carlyle was superb.
I do wish that it was a standard clause in the contracts for these things that notice of cancellation must be given before the end of filming and that some money be kept in escrow to finish the story off.
thenorthman |
thenorthman wrote:With DVD sales tanking like they are unfortunately there probably won't be a DVD movie.Loss of DVD sales is made up by VOD. Content is still being consumed either way, so if there is enough fan-base to support it there will be direct-toDVD/VOD content produced.
R.
One would of thought so, and I am a ITunes fan with 2.5 TB of content, but apparently the "experts" disagree. My search fuu is bad other wise I'd give links to these supposed experts.
Sean
Rezdave |
One would of thought so ... but apparently the "experts" disagree. My search fuu is bad other wise I'd give links to these supposed experts.
I was reading an article the other night saying that eBook sales are growing faster than hard-copy sales are declining.
Perhaps there is a net-loss in the case of visual media and music, but most of the $$$-loss is going to the video-game business. They've both been losing entertainment $$-share to the gaming industry for over a decade. I think after you account for that, it's about a wash. Granted, YouTube and other free/low-cost alternatives are consuming viewing-hours that would otherwise go to premium-content, but I have less of a clear break-down on that.
Ultimately, it's all about economics, which is why brock's "storyline wrap-up clause" would never fly. It benefits no one except the tiny fan-base that was too small to keep the show afloat in the first place.
R.
Caleb Foth |
Initially, I hated SGU. I loved the BSG reboot and SGU looked and felt like it was BSG in the SG universe. That said, I have never really liked the SG universe in general (SG:A is especially terrible like an even worse DS9 without any of the good parts). Once SGU got going and I was bored, I started watching more and I really started liking the characters a whole lot in SGU (despite many of them still being practically ripped from BSG).
Honestly, had they given SGA more time, then SGU wouldn't likely ever had been made. But because it was running concurrently with SGA (which some people liked for some god-forsaken reason) and was so close in time proximity to BSG, I don't think it ever could have done well unless is was somehow better than BSG (which I'm not sure is even possible). But eh, Syfy not being Scifi anymore isn't really news.
yellowdingo |
Initially, I hated SGU. I loved the BSG reboot and SGU looked and felt like it was BSG in the SG universe. That said, I have never really liked the SG universe in general (SG:A is especially terrible like an even worse DS9 without any of the good parts). Once SGU got going and I was bored, I started watching more and I really started liking the characters a whole lot in SGU (despite many of them still being practically ripped from BSG).
Honestly, had they given SGA more time, then SGU wouldn't likely ever had been made. But because it was running concurrently with SGA (which some people liked for some god-forsaken reason) and was so close in time proximity to BSG, I don't think it ever could have done well unless is was somehow better than BSG (which I'm not sure is even possible). But eh, Syfy not being Scifi anymore isn't really news.
Just think what SG:Atlantis and SG:Universe would be if they had compressed the story into a single week (Told like like the series 24) where the People arive and are confronted by a continuous tide of horror that scatters them across city/ship.
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
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Well Spinoff Online confirms... Stargate Franchise is dead
:-(
Rezdave |
Well Spinoff Online confirms... Stargate Franchise is dead
Which means we can expect a "reboot" from MGM next week ...
R.
The original Stargate movie came out in 1994. That means that, given the average 20-year "reboot" cycle for Hollywood franchises, we can expect an attempt to remake Stargate in about 2-3 years.
David Fryer |
Mynameisjake wrote:I heard it was all those SG:A fans that killed.R.I.P.
SG:UI'm sad to say,
The haters had their way.
I think the author of the article is on to something here. SyFy seems to have delibrately killed SGU by taking it from a timeslot where it was struggling and instead of putting it where it would thrive, putting it up against three of the highest rated programs currently on television. At the time they made the decision NCIS was the highest rated show on televison (I think it still is) and NCIS: LA and The Good Wife were both in the top ten in ratings. How do you decide that is a good slot for your struggling show unless you want it to die so you can have an excuse to show even more wrestling?