paizo.com Recent Posts in Where are the protection spellspaizo.com Recent Posts in Where are the protection spells2012-11-15T23:00:23Z2012-11-15T23:00:23ZRe: Forums: Round 3: Revised Magus Discussion: Where are the protection spellsSynapsehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lkmx?Where-are-the-protection-spells#132011-01-24T21:45:03Z2011-01-24T21:45:03Z<p>Haste more than <Animal's><Adjective>, since those lose their value early. Much of the good stuff is there though: Enlarge Person, True Strike, Feather Fall, Invisibility, Mirror Image, Fly, Haste, some of the polymorphs and their upgrades...</p>Haste more than , since those lose their value early. Much of the good stuff is there though: Enlarge Person, True Strike, Feather Fall, Invisibility, Mirror Image, Fly, Haste, some of the polymorphs and their upgrades...Synapse2011-01-24T21:45:03ZRe: Forums: Round 3: Revised Magus Discussion: Where are the protection spellsTalonz51https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lkmx?Where-are-the-protection-spells#122011-01-24T18:46:39Z2011-01-24T18:46:39Z<p>That's not the same as being a 'no buff' character. There are some pretty significant buffs in his list, bulls, bears, cats and haste to name a few.</p>That's not the same as being a 'no buff' character. There are some pretty significant buffs in his list, bulls, bears, cats and haste to name a few.Talonz512011-01-24T18:46:39ZRe: Forums: Round 3: Revised Magus Discussion: Where are the protection spellsYuenglingDragonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lkmx?Where-are-the-protection-spells#112011-01-24T18:43:06Z2011-01-24T18:43:06Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Talonz51 wrote:</div><blockquote> No buff char? Are you sure you've looked through his spell list? </blockquote><p>The Magus really isn't much of a buff class. Sure he's got a few good spells but nothing like what is available to a Bard or full caster.
<p>And that's OK. The Magus shouldn't outbuff a bard and a bard shouldn't outfight a Magus. Right now the class succeeds in occupying that space. With a bit of Arcana expenditure you can get more buffs like Heroism at the cost of enhanced fighting ability which allows for some customization.</p>Talonz51 wrote:No buff char? Are you sure you've looked through his spell list?
The Magus really isn't much of a buff class. Sure he's got a few good spells but nothing like what is available to a Bard or full caster. And that's OK. The Magus shouldn't outbuff a bard and a bard shouldn't outfight a Magus. Right now the class succeeds in occupying that space. With a bit of Arcana expenditure you can get more buffs like Heroism at the cost of enhanced fighting ability which allows for some...YuenglingDragon2011-01-24T18:43:06ZRe: Forums: Round 3: Revised Magus Discussion: Where are the protection spellsTalonz51https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lkmx?Where-are-the-protection-spells#102011-01-23T20:21:39Z2011-01-23T20:21:39Z<p>No buff char? Are you sure you've looked through his spell list?</p>No buff char? Are you sure you've looked through his spell list?Talonz512011-01-23T20:21:39ZRe: Forums: Round 3: Revised Magus Discussion: Where are the protection spellsTrynhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lkmx?Where-are-the-protection-spells#92010-12-10T09:55:46Z2010-12-10T09:55:46Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Gray Eminence wrote:</div><blockquote> As far as I read in an other post from Jason, it is the flavor of the magus to have lots of attack spells and only a small amount of defensive spells. </blockquote><p>Have to agree here, Magus is a (single target) blaster char, no buff char, i like the spell list and the new arcane pool system :)Gray Eminence wrote:As far as I read in an other post from Jason, it is the flavor of the magus to have lots of attack spells and only a small amount of defensive spells.
Have to agree here, Magus is a (single target) blaster char, no buff char, i like the spell list and the new arcane pool system :)Tryn2010-12-10T09:55:46ZRe: Forums: Round 3: Revised Magus Discussion: Where are the protection spellsGray Eminencehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lkmx?Where-are-the-protection-spells#82010-12-10T09:39:15Z2010-12-10T09:39:15Z<p>As far as I read in an other post from Jason, it is the flavor of the magus to have lots of attack spells and only a small amount of defensive spells.</p>As far as I read in an other post from Jason, it is the flavor of the magus to have lots of attack spells and only a small amount of defensive spells.Gray Eminence2010-12-10T09:39:15ZRe: Forums: Round 3: Revised Magus Discussion: Where are the protection spellsSimon Legrandehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lkmx?Where-are-the-protection-spells#72010-12-10T00:12:13Z2010-12-10T00:12:13Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Dorje Sylas wrote:</div><blockquote> If you use the Arcana to get the spell the it is added to the Magus list and does not suffer ASF. It becomes a Magus spell. </blockquote><p>I supposed you could at that. But to spend 1 of 6 Arcana to get one (two if you're high enough level) protection spells seems a bit high cost. Yes, I understand you can take Spell Blending more than once but every time you do that's something else you can't take.
<p>Don't get me wrong, I think the class looks pretty good. I just find it odd that the Prot spells didn't make the list.</p>Dorje Sylas wrote:If you use the Arcana to get the spell the it is added to the Magus list and does not suffer ASF. It becomes a Magus spell.
I supposed you could at that. But to spend 1 of 6 Arcana to get one (two if you're high enough level) protection spells seems a bit high cost. Yes, I understand you can take Spell Blending more than once but every time you do that's something else you can't take. Don't get me wrong, I think the class looks pretty good. I just find it odd that the Prot...Simon Legrande2010-12-10T00:12:13ZRe: Forums: Round 3: Revised Magus Discussion: Where are the protection spellsQuantum Stevehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lkmx?Where-are-the-protection-spells#62010-12-09T15:38:39Z2010-12-09T15:38:39Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Dorje Sylas wrote:</div><blockquote> If you use the Arcana to get the spell the it is added to the Magus list and does not suffer ASF. It becomes a Magus spell. </blockquote><p>+1
<p>Does this extend to Greater Pool Spell? Does a Magus eventually get every spell ever, but have to remove his armor to cast it?</p>Dorje Sylas wrote:If you use the Arcana to get the spell the it is added to the Magus list and does not suffer ASF. It becomes a Magus spell.
+1 Does this extend to Greater Pool Spell? Does a Magus eventually get every spell ever, but have to remove his armor to cast it?Quantum Steve2010-12-09T15:38:39ZRe: Forums: Round 3: Revised Magus Discussion: Where are the protection spellsDorje Sylashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lkmx?Where-are-the-protection-spells#52010-12-09T14:03:32Z2010-12-09T14:03:32Z<p>If you use the Arcana to get the spell the it is added to the Magus list and does not suffer ASF. It becomes a Magus spell.</p>If you use the Arcana to get the spell the it is added to the Magus list and does not suffer ASF. It becomes a Magus spell.Dorje Sylas2010-12-09T14:03:32ZRe: Forums: Round 3: Revised Magus Discussion: Where are the protection spellsSimon Legrandehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lkmx?Where-are-the-protection-spells#42010-12-08T23:44:55Z2010-12-08T23:44:55Z<p>Plus the fact that the armor proficiencies you gain only cover Magus spells. Most people I know would interpret that to mean only spells on the Magus spell list. It would really suck to have to jump out of your armor, cast a protection spell, then jump back in while combat is going on.</p>Plus the fact that the armor proficiencies you gain only cover Magus spells. Most people I know would interpret that to mean only spells on the Magus spell list. It would really suck to have to jump out of your armor, cast a protection spell, then jump back in while combat is going on.Simon Legrande2010-12-08T23:44:55ZRe: Forums: Round 3: Revised Magus Discussion: Where are the protection spellsSynapsehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lkmx?Where-are-the-protection-spells#32010-12-07T12:36:25Z2010-12-07T12:36:25Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">'Rixx wrote:</div><blockquote> You can just nab 'em from the Wizard list now. </blockquote><p>At the cost of extra resources, to be specific, but yes it works.'Rixx wrote:You can just nab 'em from the Wizard list now.
At the cost of extra resources, to be specific, but yes it works.Synapse2010-12-07T12:36:25ZRe: Forums: Round 3: Revised Magus Discussion: Where are the protection spells'Rixx (alias of Battle! Tim Jenkins)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lkmx?Where-are-the-protection-spells#22012-11-15T23:00:23Z2010-12-07T06:51:54Z<p>You can just nab 'em from the Wizard list now.</p>You can just nab 'em from the Wizard list now.'Rixx (alias of Battle! Tim Jenkins)2010-12-07T06:51:54ZForums: Round 3: Revised Magus Discussion: Where are the protection spellsSimon Legrandehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lkmx?Where-are-the-protection-spells#12012-11-15T23:00:23Z2010-12-07T05:23:40Z<p>Why wouldn't the Magus have some protection spells on the spell list? I get that he's basically a blaster but he gets Stoneskin, Blur, and Mirror Image. Here's hoping Protection from Energy and Protection from Alignment spells get added by release. Or would that give them too much protection?</p>Why wouldn't the Magus have some protection spells on the spell list? I get that he's basically a blaster but he gets Stoneskin, Blur, and Mirror Image. Here's hoping Protection from Energy and Protection from Alignment spells get added by release. Or would that give them too much protection?Simon Legrande2010-12-07T05:23:40Z