[Super Genius Games] Help Plan 2011 for SGG!


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Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
joela wrote:
I'd be real curious of a product showcasing various alternative rules used by the SSG writers/gamers and guest writers (e.g., Skip Williams) and the thought-processes why they use that particular rule.
We've seriously considered the Genius Guide to Houserules, or something similar.

+1

EDIT: ninja'ed, so make this +2.

Dark Archive

More one night stands please

Dark Archive

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Hawkwing wrote:
More one night stands please

I need more tequila for that... oh wait you mean... oh never mind.


I want to throw in a kinda-vote for Hoof and Horn in that I would love to see more monsterish-race options.

Otherwise, I would love me some more Godling options!

Love your stuff!

Dark Archive

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Weird the forum says there is a new post by Saedar but there is no post by him.


Dark_Mistress wrote:
Weird the forum says there is a new post by Saedar but there is no post by him.

Hm... That is odd.

Anyway. I had said that I put in a vote for Hoof and Horn in that I would like a sequel with more monstrous races.

Barring that, though, I vote more love for the Godling!

Lantern Lodge

Here's another vote for Time Thief, but in the interests of equal opportunity, any chance you could source a male for your poster boy this time?

I almost voted for Races of Hoof and Horn, as I like PC-playable races, not necessarily fully monster-races, but those LA+0 that might be inspired by such creatures. Eg the Piper not quite a Satyr but decended from Satyr dalliances. The Bestiary 2 has a few of these, such as the Dhampir, Fetchling, Ifrit, Oread, Sylph and Undine (undead-, shadow- and elemental-tainted PC races). They're human enough to fit within a regular adventuring party, but unique enough to give character.

I'd also like to see more print compilations, similar to Adventurer's Handbook, though it would be good if they fit a theme, so each article complemented the others.

I think SGG has enough material now that they could possibly take a shot at developing/marketing an Advanced Players Guide style product using some of these new races, base classes, archetypes, as well as feats, equipment, spells etc to support these new character concepts, like an alternate PHB.

Cheers,
DarkWhite


Dark_Mistress wrote:
Hawkwing wrote:
More one night stands please
I need more tequila for that... oh wait you mean... oh never mind.

Three generations, Patron, 1800 or Jose? I have one or two bottles of each in the cabinet...


Time Thief should get a squeal.


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Rite Publishing wrote:
Time Thief should get a squeal.

Did you write squeal on purpose or is that a typo of sequel? ;)

Liberty's Edge

Dark_Mistress wrote:
Hawkwing wrote:
More one night stands please
I need more tequila for that... oh wait you mean... oh never mind.

ROFL!!

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Ashanderai wrote:
Rite Publishing wrote:
Time Thief should get a squeal.
Did you write squeal on purpose or is that a typo of sequel? ;)

I am sure he meant sequel but was thinking about what he would like Veronic to do when he posted that. :)

PS Yes I know I am bad for posting that. :)

@Kolokotroni - I don't drink tequila for taste but for effect. :)


Dark_Mistress wrote:
Ashanderai wrote:
Rite Publishing wrote:
Time Thief should get a squeal.
Did you write squeal on purpose or is that a typo of sequel? ;)

I am sure he meant sequel but was thinking about what he would like Veronic to do when he posted that. :)

PS Yes I know I am bad for posting that. :)

@Kolokotroni - I don't drink tequila for test but for effect. :)

Tequila DOES make her reviews more in depth, however...

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

BLEEP! Taste not test... son of a bleep, mother bleeping, bleep...


Dark_Mistress wrote:
Ashanderai wrote:
Rite Publishing wrote:
Time Thief should get a squeal.
Did you write squeal on purpose or is that a typo of sequel? ;)

I am sure he meant sequel but was thinking about what he would like Veronic to do when he posted that. :)

PS Yes I know I am bad for posting that. :)

@Kolokotroni - I don't drink tequila for taste but for effect. :)

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor....? (^-^)

[In my defense, I tried to walk away from that one... :)]

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"

Dark Archive

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Devlyn, the Dalesman wrote:
Dark_Mistress wrote:
Ashanderai wrote:
Rite Publishing wrote:
Time Thief should get a squeal.
Did you write squeal on purpose or is that a typo of sequel? ;)

I am sure he meant sequel but was thinking about what he would like Veronic to do when he posted that. :)

PS Yes I know I am bad for posting that. :)

@Kolokotroni - I don't drink tequila for taste but for effect. :)

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor....? (^-^)

[In my defense, I tried to walk away from that one... :)]

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"

It's more like one tequila, two tequila, three tequila, four tequila, five tequila, and then I try and turn the dance club into a strip club.


Dark_Mistress wrote:
It's more like one tequila, two tequila, three tequila, four tequila, five tequila, and then I try and turn the dance club into a strip club.

Aaahhhh...is understand now. That is a much better effect indeed, aye. :D

Aaaand since I need to actually be productive in this thread before I get pummelled, I'll throw my vote in for more great 'Archetypes' products...and the Genius Guide to Succubi, of course. ;)

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Devlyn, the Dalesman wrote:
Dark_Mistress wrote:
It's more like one tequila, two tequila, three tequila, four tequila, five tequila, and then I try and turn the dance club into a strip club.

Aaahhhh...is understand now. That is a much better effect indeed, aye. :D

Aaaand since I need to actually be productive in this thread before I get pummelled, I'll throw my vote in for more great 'Archetypes' products...and the Genius Guide to Succubi, of course. ;)

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"

Not to derail the topic further.

off topic:
This is my theme song when I drink Jose Cuervo


Dark_Mistress wrote:
Hawkwing wrote:
More one night stands please
I need more tequila for that... oh wait you mean... oh never mind.

+1

Liberty's Edge

DarkWhite wrote:


I'd also like to see more print compilations, similar to Adventurer's Handbook, ...

I think SGG has enough material now that they could possibly take a shot at developing/marketing an Advanced Players Guide style product using some of these new races, base classes, archetypes, as well as feats, equipment, spells etc to support these new character concepts, like an alternate PHB.

Cheers,
DarkWhite

Now THIS is an interesting idea ...


Marc Radle wrote:
DarkWhite wrote:


I'd also like to see more print compilations, similar to Adventurer's Handbook, ...

I think SGG has enough material now that they could possibly take a shot at developing/marketing an Advanced Players Guide style product using some of these new races, base classes, archetypes, as well as feats, equipment, spells etc to support these new character concepts, like an alternate PHB.

Cheers,
DarkWhite

Now THIS is an interesting idea ...

Didnt they already do this with the adventurer's handbook? And have at least tentative plans to do it again?

Scarab Sages

Monkeygod wrote:
I would just like to say that this thread has got to be one of the coolest things ever done by a company. Allowing your fan base to help steer the direction of your upcoming product line is Pure Genius, pun intended.

Thanks! Honestly, it seems like common sense to us. I mean, we want you to buy these things, right? So, best they be things you want to buy...

Monkeygod wrote:
Also, Your idea hopper must be huge, as you keep tossing thing into it.

It's not yet 52 ideas long, so I have high hopes to hit everything in it by the end of 2011. Tha said, yeah it's more than 1 page long.

Steven Purcell wrote:
I'm enjoying all of SGGs PF compatible products so keep up the good work.

We shall strive to do so! While it turns out "good work" is also "hard work," I do love this game, which makes writing for it a lot easier.

Steven Purcell wrote:
Now my vote on here goes to a followup to Races of Hoof and Horn ... either a new theme for races (Fang and Feather, perhaps, for cat-like (quasi) humanoids, bear- or dog-like (quasi) humanoids, and something perhaps akin to 3.5s Raptorans; an avian humanoid) or an expansion of Hoof and Horn in some way (or preferably both!)

Your vote is counted! And I suspect some new ‘Races of...' book is inevitable. Not only am I the guy who wrote Bastards & Bloodlines for GR (proving I don't know when to leave races well enough alone), I also have about half of Races of Brawn and Brutality written...

Dark_Mistress wrote:
Hawkwing wrote:
More one night stands please
I need more tequila for that... oh wait you mean... oh never mind.

Vote counted. Tequila on order.

Saedar wrote:

Anyway. I had said that I put in a vote for Hoof and Horn in that I would like a sequel with more monstrous races.

Barring that, though, I vote more love for the Godling!

One vote per person, so I'll add that to Hoof & Horn/more Races of... books. besides, I suspect another Godling book is inevitable at this point. :)

DarkWhite wrote:
Here's another vote for Time Thief, but in the interests of equal opportunity, any chance you could source a male for your poster boy this time?

That's an entirely fair question. The fact is, Veronic had to go to considerable lengths for us to be able to use her as our poster-girl. I mentiuon that for two reasons. Once, if she wants to do it again, she's earned it. Second, I don't have a male model beating down my door offering to put in the same level of effort.

I have absolutely no problem with the idea of a male photocover. But as things stand, I lack the resources to make that happen. If that changes, I'd certainly look at my options.

Rite Publishing wrote:
Time Thief should get a squeal.

Oh sure, like I'm going to trust the Honored Competition's advice. You could be trying to get me to waste time on something you think'll be a huge flop. What's that? Oh, you guys actually bought the book, promoted it, and have already build another class of similar mechanics? (Grumble grumble) Okay, you seem to mean it. I'll count your vote this time...

And that brings the voting to:
Advanced Options: Oracles' Curses (3)
Advanced Options: Witches' Hexes (11)
GGT Air Magic (2)
GGT Apprentice-Level Characters (3)
GGT Archer Archetypes (4)
GGT Dream Magic (4)
GGT Earth Magic (3)
GGT Exalted Domains of Light and Lore (2)
GGT Exalted Domains of Storms and Savagery (1)
GGT Feats of Critical Combat (2)
GGT Feats of Divine Might (4)
GGT Feats of Immediate Action (1)
GGT Feats of Runic Might (4)
GGT Ice Magic (4)
GGT Martial Archetypes (1)
GGT Mystic Godlings (8)
GGT Races of Hoof and Horn (5)
GGT Rune Staves and Wyrd Wands (1)
GGT The Archon (3)
GGT The Armiger (1)
GGT The Godling (11)
GGT The Dragonrider (1)
GGT The Order of Vigilance (1)
GGT The Time Thief (15)
Loot 4 Less 2: Pretty, Pretty, Rings (4)
Loot 4 Less 5: All You Need is Gloves (1)
Mythic Menagerie: Engines of Destruction (1)
Mythic Menagerie: Kingdom of Graves (5)
Mythic Menagerie: Winter Ravagers (1)
One Night Stand: Warren of the Death Spiders (2)
Special Write-In: The Genius Guide to Succubi. (Or maybe the Dark Mistress herself) (3)


My vote is already in for the Witch sequel, but another idea might be to flesh out some of the Bestiary and Bestiary 2 alternate races. A mini-guide to the elemental-kin, half-vamp, and other assorted peoples (or a few mini-guides) might be something cool.

After the new year I plan on buying the Loot for Less books, they look like something the game has been lacking.

Perfect for Plun-Darr the Barbarian! Lords of Loot!


Dark_Mistress wrote:

Not to derail the topic further.

** spoiler omitted **

Heh heh - very nice ;)

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"

Lantern Lodge

Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Your vote is counted! And I suspect some new ‘Races of...' book is inevitable. Not only am I the guy who wrote Bastards & Bloodlines for GR (proving I don't know when to leave races well enough alone), I also have about half of Races of Brawn and Brutality written...

Being a fan of outcast racial concepts, I loved that book!

Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:

DarkWhite wrote:

Here's another vote for Time Thief, but in the interests of equal opportunity, any chance you could source a male for your poster boy this time?

That's an entirely fair question. The fact is, Veronic had to go to considerable lengths for us to be able to use her as our poster-girl. I mentiuon that for two reasons. Once, if she wants to do it again, she's earned it. Second, I don't have a male model beating down my door offering to put in the same level of effort.

I have absolutely no problem with the idea of a male photocover. But as things stand, I lack the resources to make that happen. If that changes, I'd certainly look at my options.

Hey, I'd offer my services ... glances down at expanding waistline ... aah, nevermind.

Cheers,
DarkWhite

RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32

Ah, now that all the serious request have been done ...

How about the Super Genius Guide to Ms. Fanservice!

Or is that ...

Spoiler:

... another vote for
Dark_Mistress wrote:
Well you should really do a book about me.


Lord Fyre wrote:

Ah, now that all the serious request have been done ...

How about the Super Genius Guide to Ms. Fanservice!

Or is that ...
** spoiler omitted **

They did that one already.


Hey folks! Time is almost up, and my beloved witches are behind!

Vote for more witches hexes now! And if it wins I'll... I'll... I'll do something at least one fan will enjoy!

Oh! I'll put up notes about my most recent Kor Kammor campaign! for the 2 of you who might remember my old one.

Liberty's Edge

Its way behind, but I do still need to put in my vote for oracle curses, though I do back anything cult/succubus related and I think the comment about books to expand on the different playable classes from the newer bestiaries would be very neat. The tiefling article in the council of thieves AP was great and having something like that for the various races would be very useful.

Also, as a side note I should point out that I'm one of your big fans on Dungeon-a-day and I wanted to point out to all the SGG and Pathfinder fans that the SGG guys have just announced that they are going to work their way through the entire dungeon and recreate everything with full Pathfinder stats as well as 3.5 ones. They seem to be just about done with the most recent floor and things are looking great while they work back. The site is a wonderful collaboration between Monte Cook and SGG that really shows off what a 'dungeon crawl' type adventure can be if done right.

If you haven't looked at it before, check it out, you can view the first rooms to get a feel for the style and read some of the beginning articles(I think dungeon design assumptions is what made me fall for the site) without joining to get an idea what you are in for.

END Fanboyish Rambling


I vote for Runic Might. I would like to see a class devoted to Runic Magic.

Scarab Sages

We're just hours away from the final tally! If you want to impact SGG's 2011 schedule, this is your best chance to do so!

Jason Ellis 350 wrote:
After the new year I plan on buying the Loot for Less books, they look like something the game has been lacking.

They are among our most popular books. And yeah, I first started writing them our of frustration with how few cheap, useful, permanent magic items are in the core rules. :)

Dungeon Grrrl wrote:

Hey folks! Time is almost up, and my beloved witches are behind!

Vote for more witches hexes now! And if it wins I'll... I'll... I'll do something at least one fan will enjoy!

Well you have my attention, but you're still a few votes behind...

Tarlane wrote:
Its way behind, but I do still need to put in my vote for oracle curses, though I do back anything cult/succubus related and I think the comment about books to expand on the different playable classes from the newer bestiaries would be very neat. The tiefling article in the council of thieves AP was great and having something like that for the various races would be very useful.

Vote counted, and ideas thrown in the hopper!

Tarlane wrote:
Also, as a side note I should point out that I'm one of your big fans on Dungeon-a-day and I wanted to point out to all the SGG and Pathfinder fans that the SGG guys have just announced that they are going to work their way through the entire dungeon and recreate everything with full Pathfinder stats as well as 3.5 ones.

I really appreciate the boost, but I suspect it's lost in this thread. If you really want to talk to people about DaD, you may need to start a new thread. :)

xorial wrote:
I vote for Runic Might. I would like to see a class devoted to Runic Magic.

Vote counted! And, that's an interesting idea. I might well be able to create Rune Master class...

And for what may be the LAST time, that brings the voting to:
Advanced Options: Oracles' Curses (4)
Advanced Options: Witches' Hexes (12)
GGT Air Magic (2)
GGT Apprentice-Level Characters (3)
GGT Archer Archetypes (4)
GGT Dream Magic (4)
GGT Earth Magic (3)
GGT Exalted Domains of Light and Lore (2)
GGT Exalted Domains of Storms and Savagery (1)
GGT Feats of Critical Combat (2)
GGT Feats of Divine Might (4)
GGT Feats of Immediate Action (1)
GGT Feats of Runic Might (5)
GGT Ice Magic (4)
GGT Martial Archetypes (1)
GGT Mystic Godlings (8)
GGT Races of Hoof and Horn (5)
GGT Rune Staves and Wyrd Wands (1)
GGT The Archon (3)
GGT The Armiger (1)
GGT The Godling (11)
GGT The Dragonrider (1)
GGT The Order of Vigilance (1)
GGT The Time Thief (15)
Loot 4 Less 2: Pretty, Pretty, Rings (4)
Loot 4 Less 5: All You Need is Gloves (1)
Mythic Menagerie: Engines of Destruction (1)
Mythic Menagerie: Kingdom of Graves (5)
Mythic Menagerie: Winter Ravagers (1)
One Night Stand: Warren of the Death Spiders (2)
Special Write-In: The Genius Guide to Succubi. (Or maybe the Dark Mistress herself) (3)


So with no new votes, it looks like Time Theif wins!

Oh well, maybe I'll get more Witch's hexes anyway, since it placed a close 2nd or third.


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Dungeon Grrrl wrote:

So with no new votes, it looks like Time Theif wins!

Oh well, maybe I'll get more Witch's hexes anyway, since it placed a close 2nd or third.

Well to my eyes it looks like *Godlings win with 19 votes! As the supplements say it is one class but with 4 variants, so by my (ahem biased) reckoning 11 + 8= 19.....so a clear win. :)

I am sure Owen will accept this is the will of the people..hehe

Scarab Sages

Johncolossus wrote:

Well to my eyes it looks like *Godlings win with 19 votes! As the supplements say it is one class but with 4 variants, so by my (ahem biased) reckoning 11 + 8= 19.....so a clear win. :)

I am sure Owen will accept this is the will of the people..hehe

I should have expected some creature rules-interpretation form RPG players, should I? :)

The "official" winner is the Time Thief. But I assure you, anything that scored well (specially if the original product sells well) is likely to get some extra love as well. that includes both witches' hexes and more godlings.

But the promise is a follow-up to time Thief in Q1 2011!

Thanks to everyone who participated, and watch out for more special communication we we ramp up the Year of the Genius!


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber
Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Johncolossus wrote:

Well to my eyes it looks like *Godlings win with 19 votes! As the supplements say it is one class but with 4 variants, so by my (ahem biased) reckoning 11 + 8= 19.....so a clear win. :)

I am sure Owen will accept this is the will of the people..hehe

I should have expected some creature rules-interpretation form RPG players, should I? :)

The "official" winner is the Time Thief. But I assure you, anything that scored well (specially if the original product sells well) is likely to get some extra love as well. that includes both witches' hexes and more godlings.

But the promise is a follow-up to time Thief in Q1 2011!

Thanks to everyone who participated, and watch out for more special communication we we ramp up the Year of the Genius!

RPGers are rules sticklers?! Hehe... Who would have thought!

Anyway i am just happy that more godling love is on the way....*does the happy dance*.

Looking forward to time thief part 2 aswell. I enjoyed all your SGG base classes....so hopefully new fresh base classes are also part of 2011 schedule aswell.

Happy new year btw

Scarab Sages

Johncolossus wrote:
Anyway i am just happy that more godling love is on the way....*does the happy dance*.

Well as long as we get a happy dance out of it, it'll all be worthwhile. :)

Johncolossus wrote:
I enjoyed all your SGG base classes....so hopefully new fresh base classes are also part of 2011 schedule aswell.

As long as I (or our freelancers) come up with class ideas I think are fresh, useful, and balanced, we'll keep publishing them. (There's a blog post in me about that process, I suspect.)

Johncolossus wrote:
Happy new year btw

Thanks! To you and yours, as well!

Sczarni

Another sequel of the Godling would be truly awesome. Is one of the favorite classes in my gaming table.

Scarab Sages

Thengel336 wrote:
Another sequel of the Godling would be truly awesome. Is one of the favorite classes in my gaming table.

Glad to hear it!

So, if you were able to ask for something specific in a Godling sequel, what would you want to see?


I'd love to see more divine traits, scion talents, and ascendancies. There already is a nice variety but I doubt that all the options have been exhausted. Particularly divine traits for all 4 classes, I feel like there could be alot more there.

Sczarni

Kolokotroni wrote:
I'd love to see more divine traits, scion talents, and ascendancies. There already is a nice variety but I doubt that all the options have been exhausted. Particularly divine traits for all 4 classes, I feel like there could be alot more there.

Actually, that's exactly what I would like to see...some new traits and talents would be great.Some additional feats would be nice to see too.

And if there could be some way to have exalted domains in a godling, that would be pretty awesome indeed.

Scarab Sages

Thengel336 wrote:
Kolokotroni wrote:
I'd love to see more divine traits, scion talents, and ascendancies. There already is a nice variety but I doubt that all the options have been exhausted. Particularly divine traits for all 4 classes, I feel like there could be alot more there.

Actually, that's exactly what I would like to see...some new traits and talents would be great.Some additional feats would be nice to see too.

Okay, I'll load all those ideas in the hopper. :)

Thengel336 wrote:
And if there could be some way to have exalted domains in a godling, that would be pretty awesome indeed.

GMs have the option of allowing a godling that takes a second lineage domain as a minor ascendency, to use that to upgrade an existing lineage domain to an exalted domain. That's covered under Exalted Domains and Third Party Material in Exalted Domains of Storms and Savagery.

Which doesn't mean I won't call it out in a godling follow-up, too. :)

Shadow Lodge

I'm still hoping for the Genius Guide to Steampunk Mad Scientist / Tesla-Clone / Inventor Guy* at some point!

* Now with added Death Ray!


Kthulhu wrote:

I'm still hoping for the Genius Guide to Steampunk Mad Scientist / Tesla-Clone / Inventor Guy* at some point!

* Now with added Death Ray!

Sarcasm or not, I'm +1 on this!

Shadow Lodge

Completely not sarcasm. I'm actually thinking of making my own version, since no 3PP have really done anything with a non-magical version.


<throws down gauntlet>

Boy, I say boy pick that up! /Foghorn_Leghorn

=)


Kthulhu wrote:

I'm still hoping for the Genius Guide to Steampunk Mad Scientist / Tesla-Clone / Inventor Guy* at some point!

* Now with added Death Ray!

This would be incredibly cool.


Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
joela wrote:
I'd be real curious of a product showcasing various alternative rules used by the SSG writers/gamers and guest writers (e.g., Skip Williams) and the thought-processes why they use that particular rule.
We've seriously considered the Genius Guide to Houserules, or something similar.

If this book is mostly(or all) houserules/alternative rules used or created by SSG, how about the Genius Guide to being a Super Genius as the title??


Any thoughts to defiler/blight or blood magic? The former would be probably a form of an anti-druid or something mimicking those defilers from Dark Sun by cannibalizing the land around them to fuel their magic and the latter would be cannibalizing themselves or the living / freshly dead to do the same?

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32

I can't believe I missed this Thread, although it was put up during a time when I was having protracted absences from the Boards. :/

I'm up for a sequal to anything really, but of course I'm still waiting with baited breath for The SGG to Valkyries and Viragos and The SGG to Vampires and Vixens... :D

Owen... hint hint, nudge nudge... ;)

Scarab Sages

flash_cxxi wrote:
I'm up for a sequal to anything really, but of course I'm still waiting with baited breath for The SGG to Valkyries and Viragos and The SGG to Vampires and Vixens... :D

Both those are being worked on. Valkyries and viragos is having some really interesting developments, though nothing is sketched in concrete yet.

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