Round 2 ETA and Words of Power


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Liberty's Edge

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Any time frame yet for these coming out? It seemed like soon from the recent messages


From Jason's most recent post on the subject he said it would take at least a few days to put the final touches on the next playtests. That was Tuesday, and he had to catch up from a couple sick days and being away at a con, so it sounded to me that he was talking about next week at the earliest.

Just my reading of the situation.


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On Jason's FB page he posted that the playtest starts on Monday!! Woohoo!

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Excellent find! Stupid excited. This will be one of those weird instances where I can't wait for Monday instead of wishing for my weekend to last forever.


QOShea wrote:
On Jason's FB page he posted that the playtest starts on Monday!! Woohoo!

Has he made any mention about the Magus update ???


nighttree wrote:
QOShea wrote:
Has he made any mention about the Magus update ???

Someone asked about that, Jason said "Not with this release, but soon."

So it depends on their definition of soon. This time. I swear the definition changes.

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nighttree wrote:
Has he made any mention about the Magus update ???

Every time he's been asked, he's said that he's been working hard on Words of Power and that soon after he'll able to release his updates to the Magus. Of course, the Thanksgiving holiday here in the States will slow that down some probably. If we actually get Words of Power on Monday, I'll bet a couple weeks after that we'll get more Magus fun.

Sczarni

All I care about is seeing Words of Power. Magus updates are fine. Words of Power = bigger win.


Nightfall wrote:
All I care about is seeing Words of Power. Magus updates are fine. Words of Power = bigger win.

We need time to devote to trying out Words of Power before we add another round of Magus to things. While I am more concerned with the Magus playtest (as I doubt alternate magic systems will be used in my group), trying to do both things at once will hinder them both. I'd rather wait a few weeks to have it done properly.


Jason Ellis 350 wrote:
We need time to devote to trying out Words of Power before we add another round of Magus to things. While I am more concerned with the Magus playtest (as I doubt alternate magic systems will be used in my group), trying to do both things at once will hinder them both. I'd rather wait a few weeks to have it done properly.

Ditto on the willing to wait for it to be done properly.

I will probably use the alternate magic system in my game, but for when the players run into a really different culture.

Standard Wizard meets Words of Power Wizard and both are confused by the other.


Nightfall wrote:
All I care about is seeing Words of Power. Magus updates are fine. Words of Power = bigger win.

That would be a matter of opinion ;)

As someone currently playing a Magus, the Magus update is a little more pressing than a new system that we may, or may not choose to take advantage of.....IMO

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nighttree wrote:


That would be a matter of opinion ;)
As someone currently playing a Magus, the Magus update is a little more pressing than a new system that we may, or may not choose to take advantage of.....IMO

This.

Its not going to be that way but I'm hoping for only a week or two of delay between Words of Power and the update.


Well, I keep hoping to see some new update on the subject every monday. Toda's monday isn't it?


Beek Gwenders of Croodle wrote:
Toda's monday isn't it?

Yes. Yes it is.

*Keeps refreshing the blog and downloads page*
...i dont care if its 3am out there. It could be up any minute now, :P

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Firewrath wrote:
Beek Gwenders of Croodle wrote:
Toda's monday isn't it?

Yes. Yes it is.

*Keeps refreshing the blog and downloads page*
...i dont care if its 3am out there. It could be up any minute now, :P

It should go up sometime today folks. The snow here and traffic snarl are slowing things down a bit.

Couple of notes here just to manage some expectations. This is a strange new system and we are really going to be focusing on the power level. As such we have it pegged high and are not giving the whole thing so as to get cleaner results. I know some of you are keen to start using it, but I am afraid that here at the start you are not going to have the full tool set to do that (although with some work, I am sure you could get there).

Just some notes before we get going...

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

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Just words of power or will there be a Magus update as well?


Thanks for the heads-up! I really enjoy variant magic systems, so I've been pretty excited about this since I heard about it at GenCon!


Jason Bulmahn wrote:
Firewrath wrote:
Beek Gwenders of Croodle wrote:
Toda's monday isn't it?

Yes. Yes it is.

*Keeps refreshing the blog and downloads page*
...i dont care if its 3am out there. It could be up any minute now, :P

It should go up sometime today folks. The snow here and traffic snarl are slowing things down a bit.

Couple of notes here just to manage some expectations. This is a strange new system and we are really going to be focusing on the power level. As such we have it pegged high and are not giving the whole thing so as to get cleaner results. I know some of you are keen to start using it, but I am afraid that here at the start you are not going to have the full tool set to do that (although with some work, I am sure you could get there).

Just some notes before we get going...

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

So we won't get the system all at once eh? That's fine, just as long as we get the other sections in due time. I figure whatever we get this week will take some time to digest anyway, so if we stretch it out... alls the better.

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MinstrelintheGallery wrote:
Jason Bulmahn wrote:
Firewrath wrote:
Beek Gwenders of Croodle wrote:
Toda's monday isn't it?

Yes. Yes it is.

*Keeps refreshing the blog and downloads page*
...i dont care if its 3am out there. It could be up any minute now, :P

It should go up sometime today folks. The snow here and traffic snarl are slowing things down a bit.

Couple of notes here just to manage some expectations. This is a strange new system and we are really going to be focusing on the power level. As such we have it pegged high and are not giving the whole thing so as to get cleaner results. I know some of you are keen to start using it, but I am afraid that here at the start you are not going to have the full tool set to do that (although with some work, I am sure you could get there).

Just some notes before we get going...

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

So we won't get the system all at once eh? That's fine, just as long as we get the other sections in due time. I figure whatever we get this week will take some time to digest anyway, so if we stretch it out... alls the better.

Correct. Today is just the basic mechanics, plus a good selection of the Wizard/Sorcerer words. That bit alone comes out to 14 pages. We are hoping to take a good look at overall power balance, and since those words are the top end, we need to make sure we get them right before filling out the other classes.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

Paizo Employee Director of Game Design

And as a quick note, no there will be no Magus update today.

Jason


Thanks for the updates, looking forward to seeing it and providing some feedback.

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Jason, will there be any guidance in the Magus Update whenever it comes to let us know how that class interacts with Words of Power?

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Jason Bulmahn wrote:

And as a quick note, no there will be no Magus update today.

Jason

Fair enough I dont suppose you have a rough eta on when an update would be available?

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Many thanks for the update. I'm very much looking forward to seeing, what looks to be, an innovative magic system.

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ugly child wrote:
Many thanks for the update. I'm very much looking forward to seeing, what looks to be, an innovative magic system.

Hear Hear!

I think this is the most excited I have been about a Paizo playtest. (and I have been pretty darn excited about them all, let me tell you!)

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Mistah J wrote:
ugly child wrote:
Many thanks for the update. I'm very much looking forward to seeing, what looks to be, an innovative magic system.

Hear Hear!

I think this is the most excited I have been about a Paizo playtest. (and I have been pretty darn excited about them all, let me tell you!)

Indeed. A non vancian system I can actually get into. Not that I don't love the psionic power points system.


Jason Bulmahn wrote:

It should go up sometime today folks. The snow here and traffic snarl are slowing things down a bit.

Couple of notes here just to manage some expectations. This is a strange new system and we are really going to be focusing on the power level. As such we have it pegged high and are not giving the whole thing so as to get cleaner results. I know some of you are keen to start using it, but I am afraid that here at the start you are not going to have the full tool set to do that (although with some work, I am sure you could get there).

Just some notes before we get going...

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

I can't believe you will let a 'little' thing like snow slow you down. :P

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still waiting....


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so are we going to start a collection to get the paizo staff new snow tires?

Liberty's Edge

Kolokotroni wrote:
so are we going to start a collection to get the paizo staff new snow tires?

A VPN tunnel for each of their houses would be better... then they can work in their pajamas.

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Eradarus wrote:
Kolokotroni wrote:
so are we going to start a collection to get the paizo staff new snow tires?
A VPN tunnel for each of their houses would be better... then they can work in their pajamas.

That makes the assumption they don't already.

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Aren't you guys like inured to snowy conditions in Washington? Everyone I know from that far north thinks anything short of three feet is weak sh*t.

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YuenglingDragon wrote:
Aren't you guys like inured to snowy conditions in Washington? Everyone I know from that far north thinks anything short of three feet is weak sh*t.

Seattle is different. They have steep hills, and snow is usually thin, quickly melts, then refreezes. Driving in such conditions is very hazardous.

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Vigil wrote:
Seattle is different. They have steep hills, and snow is usually thin, quickly melts, then refreezes. Driving in such conditions is very hazardous.

Aren't the Paizo offices in Redmond? Is the terrain similar there?

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Paizo is in Bellevue, a suburb of Seattle.

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Vigil wrote:
Paizo is in Bellevue, a suburb of Seattle.

Learn something new every day.

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Vigil wrote:
Paizo is in Bellevue, a suburb of Seattle.

What Lone Star rating does Bellevue have? How much snow did you seattle-ites get? - we got over 3 inches in one night up here in Vancouver.

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Robert Hawkshaw wrote:
Vigil wrote:
Paizo is in Bellevue, a suburb of Seattle.
What Lone Star rating does Bellevue have?

It's not Lone Star, they're like Knight Errand.

I've never seen guys like them before.
Apparently WOTC keeps sending chummers to the fry.


Dark_Mistress wrote:
Eradarus wrote:
Kolokotroni wrote:
so are we going to start a collection to get the paizo staff new snow tires?
A VPN tunnel for each of their houses would be better... then they can work in their pajamas.
That makes the assumption they don't already.

(conjectures based on experience)

I don't think they do. Working from home negatively impacts productivity (unless you have a mind like Sherlock Holmes... or if you are a single, no-lifer with no hobbies to speak of).

Oh, yes, occasionally one can go on a working spree at home, but unless you have a study, and discipline of a professional writer, you'd better not try to work at home.
Besides, folks who try to bring work home, usually end up as burnt out husks.

Finally, once upon a time James or Erik mentioned, that Paizo working style involves bouncing off ideas in a group. This is rather hard to do as even teleconference sets tend not to convey appropriate atmosphere.

Regards,
Ruemere

Paizo Employee Director of Game Design

Vigil wrote:
Paizo is in Bellevue, a suburb of Seattle.

Actually we are in Redmond now. And the file is getting close. Just taking care of some last minute corrections..

I know folks get tired of hearing it.. but soon.

Jason

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Jason Bulmahn wrote:
Vigil wrote:
Paizo is in Bellevue, a suburb of Seattle.

Actually we are in Redmond now. And the file is getting close. Just taking care of some last minute corrections..

I know folks get tired of hearing it.. but soon.

Jason

Yay! I was right and playtest soon. Double win!

Warning: The following is gonna get wonky and off topic and will probably not be interesting or useful for many people.

ruemere wrote:


I don't think they do. Working from home negatively impacts productivity (unless you have a mind like Sherlock Holmes... or if you are a single, no-lifer with no hobbies to speak of).

Oh, yes, occasionally one can go on a working spree at home, but unless you have a study, and discipline of a professional writer, you'd better not try to work at home.
Besides, folks who try to bring work home, usually end up as burnt out husks.

Working from home, also known as telework or telecommuting, actually can be very beneficial for productivity. I actually did my master's thesis on the benefits of an increased utilization of telework in the federal government. Forms of telework including sometimes working from home and working from a satellite office were correlated with increased organizational commitment which is, in turn, correlated with increased productivity. Telecommuting exclusively was the only telework situation which did not increase commitment, though those teleworking exclusively showed the lowest intent to leave their position (read low turnover).

Telecommuting has also shown to increase worker job satisfaction levels which also tends to correlate with higher productivity.

Boosh.

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Eradarus wrote:
Mistah J wrote:
ugly child wrote:
Many thanks for the update. I'm very much looking forward to seeing, what looks to be, an innovative magic system.

Hear Hear!

I think this is the most excited I have been about a Paizo playtest. (and I have been pretty darn excited about them all, let me tell you!)

Indeed. A non vancian system I can actually get into. Not that I don't love the psionic power points system.

From what I've gathered from Jason's comments, Words of Power still sounds 'Vancian' in that the words need to be studied and memorized daily (assuming a wizard, of course). We'll know more when it goes up, obviously.


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Jason Bulmahn wrote:
I know folks get tired of hearing it.. but soon.

Noooo! Paizo has turned into Blizzard Entertainment!

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I forgot they moved. Doesn't really matter. Redmond is just up the road from Bellevue, they are both suburbs of Seattle.

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ruemere wrote:
Dark_Mistress wrote:
Eradarus wrote:
Kolokotroni wrote:
so are we going to start a collection to get the paizo staff new snow tires?
A VPN tunnel for each of their houses would be better... then they can work in their pajamas.
That makes the assumption they don't already.

(conjectures based on experience)

I don't think they do. Working from home negatively impacts productivity (unless you have a mind like Sherlock Holmes... or if you are a single, no-lifer with no hobbies to speak of).

Oh, yes, occasionally one can go on a working spree at home, but unless you have a study, and discipline of a professional writer, you'd better not try to work at home.
Besides, folks who try to bring work home, usually end up as burnt out husks.

Finally, once upon a time James or Erik mentioned, that Paizo working style involves bouncing off ideas in a group. This is rather hard to do as even teleconference sets tend not to convey appropriate atmosphere.

Regards,
Ruemere

I just meant the part of them working in pajamas. :)

Paizo Employee Senior Software Developer

The Words of Power playtest is now available:

Words of Power playtest PDF

The forums may take a little while to appear, but you can use these links to navigate there:

Words of Power playtest forum

Words of Power discussion forum

[edit: fixed link to PDF]

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Wolfthulhu wrote:
The Round 2 subforum is not currently visible from the main forum page.

Sorry, that's what I was referring to when I said "The forums may take a little while to appear."

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Gary Teter wrote:
Wolfthulhu wrote:
The Round 2 subforum is not currently visible from the main forum page.
Sorry, that's what I was referring to when I said "The forums may take a little while to appear."

Ah. Gotcha. Should have known you were on it. ;-)


Just curious...but...why do words of power have somatic and material components?

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