Craft Magic Arms and Armor and Caster level


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Please excuse me on this, my search fu is weak for this.

In the "Creating Magic Armor" and "Crafting Magic Weapons" sections of the Core book it states this:

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Creating a magic weapon has a special prerequisite: The creator's caster level must be at least three times the enhancement bonus of the weapon. If an item has both an enhancement bonus and a special ability, the higher of the two caster level requirements must be met. A magic weapon must have at least a +1 enhancement bonus to have any melee or ranged special weapon abilities.
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Creating magic armor has a special prerequisite: The creator's caster level must be at least three times the enhancement bonus of the armor. If an item has both an enhancement bonus and a special ability, the higher of the two caster level requirements must be met. Magic armor or a magic shield must have at least a +1 enhancement bonus to have any armor or shield special abilities.

Has it ever been answered if the "special prerequisite" was one of the prerequisites that can be skipped by adding +5 to the DC?

From what I can tell, they appear to be, but I wanted to know the Devs RAI on their RAW if possible, so any link to a thread that states that would be awesome!

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BTW, this is why I think that it is:

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Note that all items have prerequisites in their descriptions. These prerequisites must be met for the item to be created. Most of the time, they take the form of spells that must be known by the item's creator (although access through another magic item or spellcaster is allowed). The DC to create a magic item increases by +5 for each prerequisite the caster does not meet. The only exception to this is the requisite item creation feat, which is mandatory. In addition, you cannot create spell-trigger and spell-completion magic items without meeting their spell prerequisites.

These appear to be the only stated items that can not be skipped by the RAW at least.

If this is a repeat thread from somewhere else, please feel free to point me there too. It has been a heck of a Monday.


I don't remember where i found that... there are countless thread about magic items and create!

But what i am sure is that the only mandatory requirements for the creator are:
1) the feat of creation
2) For bonus to Attack and bonus to AC: caster level
caster level >= (3 x bonus of Attack/AC of item) or if noted as requirements
ex: longsword +3........need caster level 9 for creator
ex: bracers of armor..........need CL of creator = 2 x bonus of armor
3) know the spell if spell completion (scrolls,...) or spell trigger (wand, staff,...) items

All the others,
1) have the minimum caster level to cast the spell in requirement.
2) know the spell "himself"
3) others requirements as ranks in skill, race, etc...
...may be skipped against a +5 DC for spellcraft check of creation.

...And of course if you find an item or the one which has the missing requirements for each days of creation...

Sorry, but you have to search among the many threads if you don't believe me. ^^

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Defraeter wrote:

I don't remember where i found that... there are countless thread about magic items and create!

But what i am sure is that the only mandatory requirements for the creator are:
1) the feat of creation
2) For bonus to Attack and bonus to AC: caster level
caster level >= (3 x bonus of Attack/AC of item) or if noted as requirements
ex: longsword +3........need caster level 9 for creator
ex: bracers of armor..........need CL of creator = 2 x bonus of armor
3) know the spell if spell completion (scrolls,...) or spell trigger (wand, staff,...) items

All the others,
1) have the minimum caster level to cast the spell in requirement.
2) know the spell "himself"
3) others requirements as ranks in skill, race, etc...
...may be skipped against a +5 DC for spellcraft check of creation.

...And of course if you find an item or the one which has the missing requirements for each days of creation...

Sorry, but you have to search among the many threads if you don't believe me. ^^

I have no problems searching the threads, just not finding it yet. figured that if someone already had it marked...

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