Confusion about Advanced Players Guide Classes Legality


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Alright on page 13 of the guide I downloaded it says

"All the options in the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook are available to you with some minor adjustment"

But then on page 32 it lists Advanced Player's Guide as legal for play.

So can you play classes from the Advanced Player's Guide or not?

Also am I correct in assuming the races from the Bestiary are not allowed

Grand Lodge 4/5

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You are correct. The races from the Bestiary are not allowed. From the Organized Play Guide, Chapter 13, Page 33, pertaining to Bestiary:

Animal Companions: ankylosaurus, aurochs, brachiosaurus, dire bat,
dire rat, dolphin, elasmosaurus, electric eel, elephant/mastodon, frog,
goblin dog, hyena, monitor lizard, moray eel, octopus, orca, pteranodon, rhinoceros, roc, squid, stegosaurus, triceratops, and tyrannosaurus; Familiars: all familiars listed on pages 131–133; Feats: none of the feats are legal for play

Yes, you can play classes from the APG. There are even a few pre generated characters from the APG that can be downloaded.

From the Organized Play Guide, Chapter 13, Pages 32-33, pertaining to APG:

All playtest versions of the six new base classes from this book are no longer legal for play as of 8/3/10. Anyone playing the playtest version of one of the six new base classes, must update their character as of 8/3/10.

Updating your character means adjust the things that have changed, but
not rebuilding the character.

The following parts of the Advanced Player’s Guide are NOT legal for play: Craftsman alternate Dwarven racial trait, Practicality alternate Halfling racial trait, Heart of the Fields alternate Human racial trait, Alchemist’s Brew Potion class ability (he receives Extra Bombs instead as a Bonus Feat), Cavalier’s Expert Trainer class ability (he receives Skill Focus (Handle Animal) instead as a Bonus Feat), Witch’s Cauldron hex, Antipaladin Alternate Class, Cooperative Crafting feat, the Master Alchemist feat may only be selected by Alchemists and Poisoners, all of the Cursed magic items and artifacts, the Hero Point new rule and associated feats, spells, and magic items, the Hedge Magician, Magical Knack, Natural Born Leader, and Rich Parents traits, and all of the Campaign Traits. The remainder of the Advanced Player’s Guide is legal for play as of 8/3/10.

So, most things are legal but some things are not, hence "with some minor adjustment."

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Alright I guess I was just confused on the wording of the bit on page 13. To be fair I am currently without glasses so it may be my fault

Grand Lodge 4/5

Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Maps, Rulebook Subscriber
AlexJTanner wrote:
Alright I guess I was just confused on the wording of the bit on page 13. To be fair I am currently without glasses so it may be my fault

No problem :) Glad I could help. Some of that confusion may come from the Cheliax symbol next to your name. I find alot of Chelaxians are in a perpetual state of confusion all the time. It comes from inhaling devil dust. :)

Sovereign Court 2/5

Michael Brock wrote:
AlexJTanner wrote:
Alright I guess I was just confused on the wording of the bit on page 13. To be fair I am currently without glasses so it may be my fault
No problem :) Glad I could help. Some of that confusion may come from the Cheliax symbol next to your name. I find alot of Chelaxians are in a perpetual state of confusion all the time. It comes from inhaling devil dust. :)

Now that is just too good not to post everywhere :)

Grand Lodge 2/5

Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
AlexJTanner wrote:
Alright I guess I was just confused on the wording of the bit on page 13. To be fair I am currently without glasses so it may be my fault

It's already been cleared up, but I think what you are reading here is that page 13 is an reference to the legal Core Assumption material.

Chapter 13 lists what books, and what parts of what books are additionally legal beyond the Core Assumption material.

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As a bit of an aside to this one, (I know, it's an old post, but I don't roam the Paizo boards often. Already spend too much time online.) will there ever be allowed alternate races from the Bestiary? Tieflings and aasmiars may be a bit hard to do, with a level adjustment, but several of the others have no level adjustment. Just wondering, as it's a thought I had.

Grand Lodge 2/5

PMSchulz wrote:
will there ever be allowed alternate races from the Bestiary?

Looking into my Venture-Captain crystal ball...I'm going with no. Core Races from the Core Rule book. :)

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Mark Garringer wrote:
PMSchulz wrote:
will there ever be allowed alternate races from the Bestiary?
Looking into my Venture-Captain crystal ball...I'm going with no. Core Races from the Core Rule book. :)

You guys get a Crystal ball!!!!

Grand Lodge

Dragnmoon wrote:
Mark Garringer wrote:
PMSchulz wrote:
will there ever be allowed alternate races from the Bestiary?
Looking into my Venture-Captain crystal ball...I'm going with no. Core Races from the Core Rule book. :)
You guys get a Crystal ball!!!!

It's more like a Crystal Ball of Domination... like the one Sauron handed out to Saruman. :)

Grand Lodge 3/5

LazarX wrote:
Dragnmoon wrote:
Mark Garringer wrote:
PMSchulz wrote:
will there ever be allowed alternate races from the Bestiary?
Looking into my Venture-Captain crystal ball...I'm going with no. Core Races from the Core Rule book. :)
You guys get a Crystal ball!!!!
It's more like a Crystal Ball of Domination... like the one Sauron handed out to Saruman. :)

The Yoda in my little snow-globe tells me this is completely untrue!!

Shadow Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, Michigan—Mt. Pleasant

Since this was already asked and answered by Mark, here's a link.

3rd post down, then about a third of the way down the page for a more detailed answer.

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