An idea about touch vs regular attacks to deliver spells


Round 1: Magus

Scarab Sages

Succeeding in a touch attack means your opponents failed to evade you.

Succeeding in a regular attack attack means the above + you were able to bypass his/her armor.

So if you are able to deliver a spell via a weapon, and you beat the target's touch AC the spell should go off, and if in addition to that the spell beats the regular AC, you roll weapon damage.

What do you think?

Liberty's Edge

DragonBelow wrote:

Succeeding in a touch attack means your opponents failed to evade you.

Succeeding in a regular attack attack means the above + you were able to bypass his/her armor.

So if you are able to deliver a spell via a weapon, and you beat the target's touch AC the spell should go off, and if in addition to that the spell beats the regular AC, you roll weapon damage.

What do you think?

This is how I've always played it.

It's always seemed stupid that by RAW you can accidentally touch something and have shocking grasp trigger, and deliberately touch something and it triggers, but if you deliberately *punch* something you have to beat their armor or it doesn't trigger, even if you touched them.
EDIT, on the last point: At least, that's how many discussions I've seen on the issue read the RAW. I've never bothered double-checking because I just do what makes sense at my table.

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