Paladin moral dilemma


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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
I say that a paladin would kill Hitler in his sleep. Who's with me?!?

So what is the verdict?

Silver Crusade

This thread should not exist.


Why is that?

Silver Crusade

Because there's no OP.

And I knew what you were going to post, and we're better off with out it ;)


So you knew what was going to happen before it happened? So what would you do?

Silver Crusade

Sharoth wrote:
So you knew what was going to happen before it happened? So what would you do?

Well, we're missing information, like the paladin's political views, religious affiliation, and stance on gay marriage. This thread would be sorely lacking if it didn't cover those areas as well.


So a time-traveling paladin smote the original post? DAMN! OK, now I'm finally convinced of the need to nerf the Smite ability.

Either that, or Sharoth stole the first post. Greedy dragon, snatching up someones 2cp for their thoughts. :)

Scarab Sages

Celestial Healer wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
So you knew what was going to happen before it happened? So what would you do?
Well, we're missing information, like the paladin's political views, religious affiliation, and stance on gay marriage. This thread would be sorely lacking if it didn't cover those areas as well.

The important question is --

Spoiler:
is it a 4e paladin or a Pathfinder paladin? (or a 3.5 paladin?)

This is what I wrote and the boards ate my post.

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
I say that a paladin would kill Hitler in his sleep. Who's with me?!?

So what is the verdict?

Silver Crusade

All of this would be avoided if the paladin could just use psionics, but nooooooooooo. So here he is, facing down fascism, without a decent wizard in the party (the guy who had been playing the wizard stormed out of the game because he couldn't build a decent gish without there being a class for it).

See the mess this all creates?


Sharoth wrote:

This is what I wrote and the boards ate my post.

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
I say that a paladin would kill Hitler in his sleep. Who's with me?!?
So what is the verdict?

What about all the good that came out of WWII? What guarantee would killing Hitler prevent the horrors of WWII? Or the rise of another insane demagogue in Hitler's place who would commit other, possibly worse, atrocities?

That said, paladins are Lawful Extra-Stupid :) ... so of course one would wack Hitler.

And then another time-traveling paladin would wack Hitler-smiter. And then another would wack the Hitler-smiter-smiter...


Sharoth wrote:

This is what I wrote and the boards ate my post.

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
I say that a paladin would kill Hitler in his sleep. Who's with me?!?
So what is the verdict?

How can you say that about Hitler? I love Hitler, and Hitler loves me! He's not so bad - Hitler just needs someone to believe in him! Can't you just give Hitler a chance?


Pathfinder Companion, Maps Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Can't we just all get along and agree that the Paladin is a broken class in the first place and that Hitler would make the Paladin into an Anti-Paladin.

Liberty's Edge

Dean Venture wrote:
Sharoth wrote:

This is what I wrote and the boards ate my post.

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
I say that a paladin would kill Hitler in his sleep. Who's with me?!?
So what is the verdict?
How can you say that about Hitler? I love Hitler, and Hitler loves me! He's not so bad - Hitler just needs someone to believe in him! Can't you just give Hitler a chance?

That episode was hilarious!


Studpuffin wrote:


That episode was hilarious!

Your BEAK is hilarious!

Liberty's Edge

I. R. Bird wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:


That episode was hilarious!
Your BEAK is hilarious!

When did we get a talking mirror? And why does it smell so?

Shadow Lodge

Hey, it ain't a paladin thread without me!

Liberty's Edge

TOZ wrote:
Hey, it ain't a paladin thread without me!

It's not a rules discussion at all, unless TOZ is there.

Edit: *Snicker*

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber
Studpuffin wrote:

It's not a rules discussion at all, unless TOZ is there.

Edit: *Snicker*

Every rules discussion anywhere automatically includes me retroactively. I started the first paladin argument. True story.

Liberty's Edge

TriOmegaZero wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:

It's not a rules discussion at all, unless TOZ is there.

Edit: *Snicker*

Every rules discussion anywhere automatically includes me retroactively. I started the first paladin argument. True story.

You are the source! All hail the source!

*bows before TriOmegaZero*

The Exchange

Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

So a time-traveling paladin smote the original post? DAMN! OK, now I'm finally convinced of the need to nerf the Smite ability.

Either that, or Sharoth stole the first post. Greedy dragon, snatching up someones 2cp for their thoughts. :)

Markurion got deleted by black hole weapon. We are now in a pocket reality.

Would a Paladin kill Adolf in his sleep? Yes but with the understanding that Adolf Hitler has already been manipulated by others to set this reality in motion. So does the Paladin also go kill the entire board of IBM in their sleep for the crime of manipulating Possibility with black hole weapons so that Adolf will not migrate to Australia and become a Dairy Farmer in Harndorf? Damn right he does.


TriOmegaZero wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:

It's not a rules discussion at all, unless TOZ is there.

Edit: *Snicker*

Every rules discussion anywhere automatically includes me retroactively. I started the first paladin argument. True story.

So your the one I can blame! Blame On!

Dark Archive

Moff Rimmer wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
So you knew what was going to happen before it happened? So what would you do?
Well, we're missing information, like the paladin's political views, religious affiliation, and stance on gay marriage. This thread would be sorely lacking if it didn't cover those areas as well.
The important question is -- ** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
2e.. ;)

Moral dilemmas are broken!

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

A paladin of Asmodeus wouldn't do it.

Wikipedia says so.


taig wrote:

A paladin of Asmodeus wouldn't do it.

Wikipedia says so.

That tears it!


Sharoth wrote:

This is what I wrote and the boards ate my post.

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
I say that a paladin would kill Hitler in his sleep. Who's with me?!?
So what is the verdict?

Curse your sudden but inevitable reference to Nazis.


Are we taking in terms of Nazi's or kilo-Nazi's?

Silver Crusade

Moff Rimmer wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
So you knew what was going to happen before it happened? So what would you do?
Well, we're missing information, like the paladin's political views, religious affiliation, and stance on gay marriage. This thread would be sorely lacking if it didn't cover those areas as well.
The important question is -- ** spoiler omitted **

Come to think, this would actually be a relevant question, seeing as 4e paladins don't necessarily have a code.

Spoiler:
And by that I mean, if you're not playing 4essentials, you're not playing D&D!!!!11!eleven!!!


I'm confused.

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

I think any paladin, regardless of ethos, would kill Stalin.


but what if the paladin killed a chaotic neutral teenager who was having a lie-in?

Shadow Lodge

Pual wrote:
but what if the paladin killed a chaotic neutral teenager who was having a lie-in?

Does this teenager have a job?


Neil Mansell wrote:
Pual wrote:
but what if the paladin killed a chaotic neutral teenager who was having a lie-in?
Does this teenager have a job?

he does volutary work but it's as deputy king of the kobolds


Celestial Healer wrote:
See the mess this all creates?

Point buy FTW!

Dark Archive

CourtFool wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
See the mess this all creates?
Point buy FTW!

No HERO? ;)

Dark Archive

Hey TOZ since your the all source is that anything like being the allspark??? And I think we are talking giga nazi's here


Mac Boyce wrote:
No HERO? ;)

Hero is point buy. Do try to keep up. ;)


Celestial Healer wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
So you knew what was going to happen before it happened? So what would you do?
Well, we're missing information, like the paladin's political views, religious affiliation, and stance on gay marriage. This thread would be sorely lacking if it didn't cover those areas as well.
The important question is -- ** spoiler omitted **

Come to think, this would actually be a relevant question, seeing as 4e paladins don't necessarily have a code.

** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
Aha but if it's not D&D then my paladin can do what he likes, i.e. blow and hookers
Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber
divineshadow wrote:
Hey TOZ since your the all source is that anything like being the allspark??? And I think we are talking giga nazi's here

Actually, googlenazis. To answer your question, yes, I fart allsparks.

Dark Archive

Can a paladin be gay :P


Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Can a paladin be gay :P

The best ones are.


If this weren't so damn funny, I'd smite you all.

RPG Superstar 2012

Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Can a paladin be gay :P

Now that bards can be LG, sure!


Now I've started wondering if an anti-paladin didn't kill a sleeping neutral wyvern when he had the chance, and also kick a badgers head-in on the way, would he become a risen anti-paladin?

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Is the badger raging?


Pual wrote:
Now I've started wondering if an anti-paladin didn't kill a sleeping neutral wyvern when he had the chance, and also kick a badgers head-in on the way, would he become a risen anti-paladin?

You gotta think bigger. Wake up the wyverns, talk them into terrorizing the nearest village, watch the mayhem, burn the village's crops, then kill the wyverns.


Swivl wrote:
Pual wrote:
Now I've started wondering if an anti-paladin didn't kill a sleeping neutral wyvern when he had the chance, and also kick a badgers head-in on the way, would he become a risen anti-paladin?
You gotta think bigger. Wake up the wyverns, talk them into terrorizing the nearest village, watch the mayhem, burn the village's crops, then kill the wyverns.

...then use their eggs to make an omelette but just throw it away


Sir Spitsalot: Paladin-at-Law wrote:
If this weren't so damn funny, I'd smite you all.

Oh you tease!

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