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So, I've always wondered about a lot of the non-OGL items out there that came from the Splat books. The main thing that I've been thinking about is all of the content that is not OGL but exists for 3.5. Obviously, I do not want Paizo (or anyone for that matter) to reprint all of it but there is a question of some of the good stuff that is buried under the mountain of "other stuff". For instance, if Paizo decided they wanted to make a shapeshifting base race they obviously could not use the name Changeling*, but what about a race called "Gobbletygook" that could use the ability Alter Self at will. Could they do this? Or would they have to just leave it be?

*I'm not advocating that Paizo or anybody else release a product that updates the Changeling in any way, I'm mearly using it as an example.


There is the civilized serpent people from the Freeport stories. They have a +1 LA, but can shape shift. I am using them for my replacement for yuan-ti.

Grand Lodge

pres man wrote:
There is the civilized serpent people from the Freeport stories. They have a +1 LA, but can shape shift. I am using them for my replacement for yuan-ti.

I thought you were still using 3.5 Press...

If you are (and have not converted to PF), why do you have a "replacement" for anything 3.5 (aside from house-rules that is)?

Is this race better than the yuan-ti in your opinion?

Just curious, that's all?

:-)


Beholders have been an intellectual property traveling with D&D for nearly its entire lifespan. That doesn't stop the plethora of gazers and eyebeasts and girobokku/moas and digdogger.


The one monster that irritates me as being non-OGL is the Mindflayer. Obviously this monster is from Cthulu mythology, but perhaps that is why it isn't OGL.


Digitalelf wrote:
pres man wrote:
There is the civilized serpent people from the Freeport stories. They have a +1 LA, but can shape shift. I am using them for my replacement for yuan-ti.

I thought you were still using 3.5 Press...

If you are (and have not converted to PF), why do you have a "replacement" for anything 3.5 (aside from house-rules that is)?

Is this race better than the yuan-ti in your opinion?

Just curious, that's all?

:-)

I'm working on putting some books together that I can put on Lulu or some other print on demand site using the 3.5 SRD and various OGL material. It might never really get off the ground, but if it does I wanted to have something I could point to for new players to purchase if they didn't just want to use the SRD. It is not exactly 3.5, more like 3.51, some very minor mostly house-rules, but with comments about how the rules are different from the 3.5 so someone can use the original rules.

Anyway, the serpent people for player characters would be better than yuan-ti since they have no racial hit dice and only a +1 LA. Racial levels and LA suck for player characters, especially spellcasters.

Grand Lodge

pres man wrote:
I'm working on putting some books together that I can put on Lulu or some other print on demand site using the 3.5 SRD and various OGL material.

This sounds really cool...

I'd be interested in seeing this...

Oh, and thank you for entertaining my curiosity :-)


JMD031 wrote:
The one monster that irritates me as being non-OGL is the Mindflayer. Obviously this monster is from Cthulu mythology, but perhaps that is why it isn't OGL.

A possible replacement is:

Abollar (half-aboleth) Template from Dungeon Crawl Classics #29 The Adventure Begins
+
Psychic Creature Template from Advanced Bestiary

Or just go with the Abollar and then just take levels in the psion class (it is OGL).

Grand Lodge

As has been mentioned before on several other threads, there's always "The Iconic Bestiary: Classics of Fantasy" by Ari Marmell...

It has "alternate versions" of Beholders, Mindflayers, Carrion Crawlers, Umber Hulks, and a couple of others...

It's only $5.95 HERE on Paizo...

And if you like that book's take on Mind Flayers (called Phrenic Scourges), then THIS book goes into further detail (and it's only $4.95)...

-That One Digitalelf Fellow-


JMD031 wrote:
The one monster that irritates me as being non-OGL is the Mindflayer. Obviously this monster is from Cthulu mythology, but perhaps that is why it isn't OGL.

Technically they aren't from the Cthulhu Mythos. Yes they certainly look like they should be. Yes their back story (as I experienced it in 2ed) certainly reads like a Cthulhu style story. Unfortunately while there are similarities they are not a reprint of anything from any of the books by HP Lovecraft or other Cthulhu authors.

WOTC does not have the rights to that series when the Mindflayer was first introduced. When WOTC did try to reprint those critters they got sued. The mindflayer is an original creation of WOTC that is likely inspired by Cthulhu, it is not an actual part of the Cthulhu mythos.

That said I am pissed that I won't see PF version of the Mindflayer or Beholder. They will still appear in my game even if I have to do conversions for them myself.


JMD031 wrote:
The one monster that irritates me as being non-OGL is the Mindflayer. Obviously this monster is from Cthulu mythology, but perhaps that is why it isn't OGL.

And even then, you have things like Final Fantasy Tactics' Mindflare family.

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