[Community Project] Wayfinder #4: Winter 2010 Edition


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The Exchange

Fumbling along.

I was wondering, is there a way to copy-paste a document into InDesign that rolls the text over to several pages. All I get is single frame on a single page without anything on the other pages. This would be a real pain to do one page at a time with 10k story.


Tarren Dei wrote:
Cardinal_Malik wrote:
this is almost a spring issue now.
Not from where I'm sitting. Damn snow.

This night it was so called my eyes hurt from going downhill on a bicycle - with the breaks pressed as hard as I could without stopping!

Liberty's Edge

Zuxius wrote:

Fumbling along.

I was wondering, is there a way to copy-paste a document into InDesign that rolls the text over to several pages. All I get is single frame on a single page without anything on the other pages. This would be a real pain to do one page at a time with 10k story.

Zux,

Down in the left-hand corner of the text box you'll see a small box with a red X in it. If you click on that you can place the rest of the text wherever you want it to go.

Hope that helps. If you need other info or suggestions email me at
thekinnakeeter @ yahoo.com

Mal

The Exchange

I.Malachi wrote:
Zuxius wrote:

Fumbling along.

I was wondering, is there a way to copy-paste a document into InDesign that rolls the text over to several pages. All I get is single frame on a single page without anything on the other pages. This would be a real pain to do one page at a time with 10k story.

Zux,

Down in the left-hand corner of the text box you'll see a small box with a red X in it. If you click on that you can place the rest of the text wherever you want it to go.

Hope that helps. If you need other info or suggestions email me at
thekinnakeeter @ yahoo.com

Mal

Thank you!

I sure will email you. In about 10 days I will hit the layout stage and in the meantime I am just fiddling with the program.

The Exchange

Time to raise the flag on this one.

Earyep!

These ya go.

The Exchange

Are we there yet?

Looks like we are overdue for Wayfinder #5. Ready to write for that one. Currently brewing beer for the PaizoCon as well. Did I miss Wayfinder 5's grand opening to submissions? Linky?

Dark Archive

i don't think so, otherwise where's my copy of wayfinder 4?


From what I've inferred by reading Lilith's aliases on the Paizo-chat, Wayfinder #4 is almost finished - and she's working hard on making the "almost" disappear.


Now available!


Lucky I happened to notice new posts here! Awesomeness!

Shadow Lodge

92 pages... 0_0

Worth the wait.

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Very cool DLing it now.


So....when do the guidelines for #5 get revealed? ;p

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8

Big thanks to all those who worked so hard to get this out.

Dark Archive

wooohooo!

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Very very woo! I love a good Wayfinder, and Paizo Fans United put out the best Wayfinders.


Got it! Thanks a lot and keep up this fantastic work!

Ruyan.

The Exchange

Kind of strange but why did I get a contributing credit? The mag looks fantastic.

Sovereign Court

I didn't make the cut :(

I'm thinking that it's time to give up the fiction

The Exchange

Guy Humual wrote:
I'm thinking that it's time to give up the fiction

Never!

Lantern Lodge

Guy Humual wrote:

I didn't make the cut :(

I'm thinking that it's time to give up the fiction

Weren't you in the first 3 wayfinders? Don't let 1/4 stop you in your tracks!

Sovereign Court

Sara Marie wrote:


Weren't you in the first 3 wayfinders? Don't let 1/4 stop you in your tracks!

I think the talent has out paced me Sara. Dave Gross and Elaine Cunningham? How could an amateur like me possibly hope to compete for a spot in this magazine against the pros? But if that weren't daunting enough we have quite a few Paizo contributors and warecabages in here as well. Wayfinder has an incredible list of authors! I am impressed. Sadly I really doubt there's any need of my scribblings in the mag at this point.

Honestly I only sent some fiction to the first one because I was worried that our fearless leader, Elizabeth Leib, wasn't going to have enough submissions to pull the thing together. I sent fiction into the second because I'd made it into the first. I figured what the heck, maybe I could make a serial out of this. When my fiction was bumped out of the print version of the 3rd I should have taken the hint. But with my Grandfather in and out of the hospital I figured one more story might take my mind off of things . . .

Anyways this isn't a sob story, I'll see if I can think up some other contribution to WF 5. I just know that contribution isn't going to be fiction. I mean if anyone has read my Boswic stories and wants to hear more then I might try writing something else, but otherwise, we're all grownups here, let's not pretend that my fiction will be missed. I appreciate people here trying to encourage me. I'm not going to stop writing. Who knows, maybe I'll find the courage to submit my writing to something else in the future but right now I think Lilith has enough talent in the fiction department.

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

You know I think there was a pattern with this issue... something about wilderness maybe?


I'm interested in writing something for the next issue. I was very impressed with #4.


Indeed, I too concur with wanting to know about next issue. I might be able to contribute a thing or two, I am a game artist so I could contribute a model or two if I got the time.

Contributor

Once I know the theme, I'm fairly certain I could come up with a poem.

The Exchange

I did make it in there. Small but I'm in there. The curse of the PDF version has been lifted.

Sczarni RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Good job on #4! I really enjoyed "The Illusionist" story.


Lilith wrote:
Now available!

Awesome work everyone! It really turned out well!


I must say this issue looks very nice, I enjoy the layout of my poems naturally and dig the bag pipe dude. Thanks Liz for making another great issue.

Shadow Lodge

I didn't know I made it in until I saw the pdf, that was quite the surprise.

I'm posting here to thank the artist since I thought his work really fit (I obviously hadn't seen it before I saw the pdf either). Awesome work, and my thanks.

And, of course, thanks to Liz for all the hard work and for letting me be a part of it. ;)

Dark Archive

ValmarTheMad wrote:


I didn't know I made it in until I saw the pdf, that was quite the surprise.

I'm posting here to thank the artist since I thought his work really fit (I obviously hadn't seen it before I saw the pdf either). Awesome work, and my thanks.

And, of course, thanks to Liz for all the hard work and for letting me be a part of it. ;)

+1!

RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16, 2011 Top 32, 2012 Top 4

Wow, there's some excellent material here. I'll definitely mine this for my Serpent Skull campaign. Nice work!

Contributor

Thomas LeBlanc wrote:
Good job on #4! I really enjoyed "The Illusionist" story.

Thanks, Thomas! Glad to hear it.

Contributor

Guy Humual wrote:
Dave Gross and Elaine Cunningham? How could an amateur like me possibly hope to compete for a spot in this magazine against the pros?

Guy, I can see how you came to this conclusion. But it was never anyone's intention to edge fans out of the Wayfinder's pages.

My goal in writing this story was two-fold: to support a terrific fan publication and a great group of people, and to take the advice of J.A. Konrath, thriller writer and marketing guru: "The best advertisement for your writing is...your writing."

But.

When published writers show up in a fanzine, it muddies the waters. I hadn't given sufficient consideration to this, or to how it might appear to people who might otherwise want to submit. The last thing I want to do is DISCOURAGE fan participation.

It also creates an awkward situation for Paizo. The material in Wayfinder isn't "canon," but when someone who has written professionally for Paizo shows up in a fanzine, the material appears to carry official approval. I did, in fact, run the story past my editors, who approved the tale but had some of the same concerns I did. What ended up happening is that Paizo bought "The Illusionist" after it was written and allowed Wayfinder to publish it first (and free). They may eventually run it as part of the Web Fiction feature.

This was all a bit more convoluted than I had in mind. So, to avoid further complications, I will not be writing for Wayfinder in the future.

I certainly hope you'll continue to submit your best Golarion fiction to this very polished and creative webzine. :)


Elaine Cunningham wrote:
Guy Humual wrote:
Dave Gross and Elaine Cunningham? How could an amateur like me possibly hope to compete for a spot in this magazine against the pros?

Guy, I can see how you came to this conclusion. But it was never anyone's intention to edge fans out of the Wayfinder's pages.

My goal in writing this story was two-fold: to support a terrific fan publication and a great group of people, and to take the advice of J.A. Konrath, thriller writer and marketing guru: "The best advertisement for your writing is...your writing."

But.

When published writers show up in a fanzine, it muddies the waters. I hadn't given sufficient consideration to this, or to how it might appear to people who might otherwise want to submit. The last thing I want to do is DISCOURAGE fan participation.

It also creates an awkward situation for Paizo. The material in Wayfinder isn't "canon," but when someone who has written professionally for Paizo shows up in a fanzine, the material appears to carry official approval. I did, in fact, run the story past my editors, who approved the tale but had some of the same concerns I did. What ended up happening is that Paizo bought "The Illusionist" after it was written and allowed Wayfinder to publish it first (and free). They may eventually run it as part of the Web Fiction feature.

This was all a bit more convoluted than I had in mind. So, to avoid further complications, I will not be writing for Wayfinder in the future.

I certainly hope you'll continue to submit your best Golarion fiction to this very polished and creative webzine. :)

Thanks, Elaine, for your support to Paizo fandom. It's very cool.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

You raise many good points, Elaine, but I wonder if you're undervaluing your contribution. Professional authors like yourself and Dave Gross give Wayfinder a greater legitimacy on the virtual bookstore shelf. Despite this being a free download, there is a lot of other content out there vying for the gamers' attention, much of it also free. Why download an e-zine that may have subpar content with amateur layout? You can gauge the quality of a blog at a glance, and feel it out within a few paragraphs.

Pathfinder Tales authors amongst the list of contributors is one of Wayfinder's most exclusive selling points. It is also a reflection of the quality of the other articles therein.


Let's see...if I play my cards just right, I may be able to get all the talented writers out of the magazine. Then if I manage to slip the sleeping poison into the editors' coffee, I may just stand a chance of getting in!

Oh, and I need a modify memory spell or two. If they remember my last submission, I'm doomed.
:P

Sczarni RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Elaine Cunningham wrote:
My goal in writing this story was two-fold: to support a terrific fan publication and a great group of people, and to take the advice of J.A. Konrath, thriller writer and marketing guru: "The best advertisement for your writing is...your writing."

Goal 1 = Achieved

Goal 2 = Already achieved. Your book Evermeet, Island of the Elves drew me into Forgotten Realms. Then you wrote Dark Journey for my favorite book series, mucho yay!

Sovereign Court

Elaine Cunningham wrote:


This was all a bit more convoluted than I had in mind. So, to avoid further complications, I will not be writing for Wayfinder in the future.

I certainly hope you'll continue to submit your best Golarion fiction to this very polished and creative webzine. :)

Now this is also not an outcome I wanted. Having professional writers donate their work for the Wayfinder is a dream for this entire community. I can't say how pleased I was (after the initial disappointment of not making the cut) to see such talent in a magazine that I was very happy to be a part of these last few years. I don't begrudge getting cut if it means having a better mag for the community and having future articles from Elaine Cunningham would certainly be incredible for the community!

There are some who would undoubtedly get discouraged (especially those like myself who aren't terribly confident of their writing to begin with) but then there are those who would see this as encouragement. There are writers who would want to rise to the challenge. If you bow out of any future fan mags those writers will be devastated, imagine getting your work published along side professional authors? That has got to be a dream. Seeing your work in Wayfinder doesn't make me mad or disappointed, I do hope you see that's not what I'm saying, but what it tells me is that the Wayfinder is attracting the kind of talent it deserves. If you walk away because of what I posted I'll feel worse then I did when I didn't make the cut!

Contributor

Guy Humual wrote:
If you walk away because of what I posted I'll feel worse then I did when I didn't make the cut!

No worries, Guy. This is an issue I considered and resolved months ago. While I appreciate the kind thoughts, Wayfinder is a fanzine. I think an occasional article or story from the writing-IS-my-day-job people is fine, but I've already done two. Two-for-four is well beyond the realms of "occasionally." :)


From my perspective two out of four is occasional. But then I'm British, and words seem to have slightly different meanings over here [UK] from over there [USA + Canada + Mexico, etc]...
Thanks for the stories you have contributed to Wayfinder thus far, Elaine. I enjoyed the Channa Ti one back in #3, and hope to soon have the time to read the Asmonde one from this issue. I'd like to say that besides finding the Channa Ti one enjoyable, I found it tremendously useful too to see an experienced writer handle writing to such a short format.
I hope we see you back in Wayfinder some day with more fiction... maybe the next time there's a chance to tie in with something larger you write for Paizo. :)
And even if you prefer not to write ficton for Wayfinder for now, perhaps you could contribute something on the game mechanics side?... ;)

Contributor

Charles Evans 25 wrote:
And even if you prefer not to write ficton for Wayfinder for now, perhaps you could contribute something on the game mechanics side?... ;)

Thanks for the thought, but game mechanics isnt' really my forte. :)

Liberty's Edge

As a fan I was incredibly happy to see my story made this issue of Wayfinder. I'm neither a professional writer nor a werecabbage. I do, however, credit Zuxius and the other editors at pathfinderchronicler.net. Anyone wishing to hone their stories for submission is well-advised to seek them out. In fact, get your butt over there if you just want to improve your writing.

Contributor

Quote:
"I'm neither a professional writer nor a werecabbage.

At the risk of sounding entirely out of the loop, what is a "werecabbage?" I keep seeing the term, but haven't a clue.

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut

They're a group of freelancers who banded together to offer a portfolio of related services to RPG publishers. Paizo has tapped members of the Werecabbages for some exclusive opportunities in the past. Many of them are industry veterans and experienced freelancers in everything from rules design and adventure writing all the way to layout specialists, artists, and editors. Their work has appeared in many different publications across several different game companies.

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