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doc the grey wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
doc the grey wrote:
Was there a reason why morlocks were built without more connections to their repair and machinery maintaining background?
Yup. Pathfinder's morlocks are a fantasy setting version of them inspired by the science-fiction version of them.

Care to elaborate on that? Like do they work to maintain magical devices that they have lost the ability to truly understand or something to that effect or are they something more akin to just regressed humans now little above animals?

Also what CR would you put Izyagna at?

They're not really involved with machines at all, in other words. They're pretty much freaky mole people who worship demons. They're a LOT more like the monsters in the movie "The Descent" in other words.

I'm pretty sure all of the nascent demon lords I mention in that book are at the high end of what nascent demon lord CRs are at. She'd probably be CR 24, I guess.

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Paladinosaur wrote:

James,

i) how common are pantheists on golarion? A tipical commoner worships one deity, or a lot of them, depending on the situation?

ii) Is the Peacock Spirit LE? Is he somehow related to Malek Taus?

i) Pretty common. Most of society, probably, is panthestic to one degree or the other.

ii) We've not said. We haven't even for real confirmed that the Peacock Spirit was actually a god and not, maybe, a philosophy. We're keeping deliberately mysterious on it for now.


Hey, James, not sure if you get this a lot but I feel it needs saying: Thanks a bunch for showing this much patience and dedication to Pathfinder fans. They really means a lot, and nearing on 1,000 pages of Q&A shows it :)


xavier c wrote:
why is it hard for me to see Lissala as evil (she just doesn't seem that bad compared to Zon-Kuthon and Norgorber or Urgathoa)

Was she always intended to be evil?

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The Guardian Beyond Beyond wrote:
xavier c wrote:
why is it hard for me to see Lissala as evil (she just doesn't seem that bad compared to Zon-Kuthon and Norgorber or Urgathoa)
Was she always intended to be evil?

Yes.

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Captain Sakhbet "The Sandman" wrote:
Hey, James, not sure if you get this a lot but I feel it needs saying: Thanks a bunch for showing this much patience and dedication to Pathfinder fans. They really means a lot, and nearing on 1,000 pages of Q&A shows it :)

Thanks! It's always nice to hear positive feedback! :)

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James Jacobs wrote:
Tels wrote:

Hypothetical.

Your first born child is 2 years old and you come home from work to find your child has stripped out of his/her diaper and smeared poop on the wall while his/her caregiver is using the bathroom.

What is your reaction?

Make sure the kid's sorted and okay, clean the poop, then find out why the caregiver let my kid run amok like that.

My twin brother and I did that when we were kids, and my mom just went of the room for a minute. Toddlers are natural and quick muralists.


James Jacobs wrote:
Mal_Luck wrote:
Did Cayden Cailean worship a deity when he was mortal? If so, who?
He was more of a pantheist; he worshiped several deities and offered prayer to them as the situation warranted... but not with a lot of regularity or devotion. He was kinda fond of Calistria though...

Has that fondness grown since his assention?


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Mr Jacobs, you've stated several times in the past that Cheliax favors keeping the Worldwound open so that the Mendev crusaders are distracted from their diabolist antics...but after the conclusion of WoTR (assuming the PCs are victorious), doesn't that mean that all bets are off?

So say a group of implacable level 20s/Mythic Rank 10s want to give House Thrune the same treatment that House Lannister gave House Reyne (okay, maybe not THAT genocidal, but you get the point) and wipe out all traces of devil-worship in the country.

What kind of countermeasures do they pull out? Summoning hordes of Puragus devils? Hiring out thousands of Hellknights? Or could the PCs just theoretically sweep through Cheliax, kill off entire armies of soldiers and devils Dynasty Warriors-style, rule Egorian and liquidate Asmodeus' entire church?

Wait, scratch that. Is there anything in canon that could prevent THIS from happening?

*Queen Abrogail II wakes up in her bed chambers, stretches, and yawns.*

"Wow, it sure is a sunny day today. I wonder what Mendev is up to!"

*Mythic Wizard greater teleports into the room, fires Quickened Empowered Maximized Augmented fireball at her. Abrogail dies instantly*

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James Jacobs wrote:
The Guardian Beyond Beyond wrote:
xavier c wrote:
why is it hard for me to see Lissala as evil (she just doesn't seem that bad compared to Zon-Kuthon and Norgorber or Urgathoa)
Was she always intended to be evil?
Yes.

After the year of the Waking Rune, I find it very hard to imagine Liissala as anything BUT evil.


1. Why does Rob think the Restore Old Glory faction of Taldor are the good guys? Why do you think otherwise?

2. What would compel an empyreal lord to create a good-aligned “Worldwound?”

3. Here’s a Wrath of the Righteous PC idea. PC has Chance Encounter background, has sexual fantasies about rescuer, keeps it a secret for fear of inquisitors, doesn’t want to risk demonic influence so she looks for religion. In her search she discovers Arshea and works to become a succubus hunter (i.e., inquisitor class). Would you consider that shoehorning or creative?

4. What demon lords are most worshipped in the Brevoy/Stolen Lands region?

5. What kind of music do you like again?

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mathpro18 wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Mal_Luck wrote:
Did Cayden Cailean worship a deity when he was mortal? If so, who?
He was more of a pantheist; he worshiped several deities and offered prayer to them as the situation warranted... but not with a lot of regularity or devotion. He was kinda fond of Calistria though...
Has that fondness grown since his assention?

Good question!

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Axial wrote:

Mr Jacobs, you've stated several times in the past that Cheliax favors keeping the Worldwound open so that the Mendev crusaders are distracted from their diabolist antics...but after the conclusion of WoTR (assuming the PCs are victorious), doesn't that mean that all bets are off?

So say a group of implacable level 20s/Mythic Rank 10s want to give House Thrune the same treatment that House Lannister gave House Reyne (okay, maybe not THAT genocidal, but you get the point) and wipe out all traces of devil-worship in the country.

What kind of countermeasures do they pull out? Summoning hordes of Puragus devils? Hiring out thousands of Hellknights? Or could the PCs just theoretically sweep through Cheliax, kill off entire armies of soldiers and devils Dynasty Warriors-style, rule Egorian and liquidate Asmodeus' entire church?

Wait, scratch that. Is there anything in canon that could prevent THIS from happening?

*Queen Abrogail II wakes up in her bed chambers, stretches, and yawns.*

"Wow, it sure is a sunny day today. I wonder what Mendev is up to!"

*Mythic Wizard greater teleports into the room, fires Quickened Empowered Maximized Augmented fireball at her. Abrogail dies instantly*

Assuming the PCs win WotR, the Worldwound is still a post-apocalyptic demon-haunted realm. It's still going to take the crusaders a long time to reclaim and help recover the land... but now it's not an impossible task for them. So at that point, House Thrune does indeed have to start shoring up its defenses and getting ready for the inevitable increased attention from Iomedae's church... but at the same time, they've been running Cheliax for nearly a century so far and that means they've got decades and decades of inertia and establishment and all that. Indeed, Iomedae's church waging war on Cheliax would likely bring more pain and despair and devastation and ruin to the Inner Sea in 1 year than letting Cheliax keep going as it has been for another century. The church of Iomedae isn't stupid; they'd realize this.

So, I suspect that the church of Iomedae itself wouldn't start a war with Cheliax. If anything, it'd be more like a cold war.

As for Mythic PCs... what they do is not something any GM or Creative Director can predict. The fact that there's nowhere else for the characters to go at that point on a tier or level progression really means that it's probably best to retire the PCs, and have them move on to other worlds and other realities.

Whether or not you want someone to teleport into Abrogail's bedroom and fireball her to death depends on whether or not you want to completly throw out Cheliax as it currently stands and do something new with it.

I feel that Cheliax is one of the most unique and interesting parts of Golarion, frankly, and I wouldn't want to see this happen.

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AlgaeNymph wrote:

1. Why does Rob think the Restore Old Glory faction of Taldor are the good guys? Why do you think otherwise?

2. What would compel an empyreal lord to create a good-aligned “Worldwound?”

3. Here’s a Wrath of the Righteous PC idea. PC has Chance Encounter background, has sexual fantasies about rescuer, keeps it a secret for fear of inquisitors, doesn’t want to risk demonic influence so she looks for religion. In her search she discovers Arshea and works to become a succubus hunter (i.e., inquisitor class). Would you consider that shoehorning or creative?

4. What demon lords are most worshipped in the Brevoy/Stolen Lands region?

5. What kind of music do you like again?

1) You'd have to ask Rob that. I think otherwise because I'm pretty liberal in my world views, and I think that the old glory of Taldor is unpleasant and stifling and warlike and that seeing that regional conquering attitude come back to power would be viewed as a threat to the Inner Sea. Any nation that wants to conquer nations like Andoran or Kyonin or the Five Kings Mountains or Isger or Druma or etc. is not one that I feel makes sense to be the ones that the PCs should be working for. That's better suited to be something that PCs work against.

2) Nothing. One of the underlying aspects of being good is that you don't have a compulsion or desire or need to go to someone else's place and transform it into something you prefer without their consent.

3) If the GM gave that to the player as something to build their character into, it's shoehorning. If the player comes up with most of it on their own, it's creative.

4) Lamashtu is the most worshiped in that region. Others that are more commonly worshiped there would be Baphomet, Cyth-V'sug, Deskari, Gogunta, Jezelda, Kostchtchie, Mestama, Shax, Urxehl, and Xoveron, I suppose.

5) Dead Can Dance. Pink Floyd. Phillip Glass. Nine Inch Nails. Muse. Franz Lizst. Movie Soundtracks.

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James Jacobs wrote:
Axial wrote:

Mr Jacobs, you've stated several times in the past that Cheliax favors keeping the Worldwound open so that the Mendev crusaders are distracted from their diabolist antics...but after the conclusion of WoTR (assuming the PCs are victorious), doesn't that mean that all bets are off?

So say a group of implacable level 20s/Mythic Rank 10s want to give House Thrune the same treatment that House Lannister gave House Reyne (okay, maybe not THAT genocidal, but you get the point) and wipe out all traces of devil-worship in the country.

What kind of countermeasures do they pull out? Summoning hordes of Puragus devils? Hiring out thousands of Hellknights? Or could the PCs just theoretically sweep through Cheliax, kill off entire armies of soldiers and devils Dynasty Warriors-style, rule Egorian and liquidate Asmodeus' entire church?

Wait, scratch that. Is there anything in canon that could prevent THIS from happening?

*Queen Abrogail II wakes up in her bed chambers, stretches, and yawns.*

"Wow, it sure is a sunny day today. I wonder what Mendev is up to!"

*Mythic Wizard greater teleports into the room, fires Quickened Empowered Maximized Augmented fireball at her. Abrogail dies instantly*

Assuming the PCs win WotR, the Worldwound is still a post-apocalyptic demon-haunted realm. It's still going to take the crusaders a long time to reclaim and help recover the land... but now it's not an impossible task for them. So at that point, House Thrune does indeed have to start shoring up its defenses and getting ready for the inevitable increased attention from Iomedae's church... but at the same time, they've been running Cheliax for nearly a century so far and that means they've got decades and decades of inertia and establishment and all that. Indeed, Iomedae's church waging war on Cheliax would likely bring more pain and despair and devastation and ruin to the Inner Sea in 1 year than letting Cheliax keep going as it has been for another century. The church of Iomedae isn't...

Understandable, but what I want to know is *canonically* what would Abrogail do to try to fight a nigh-invincible mythic deathsquad? Calling in a favor from an Archdevil or something? A Miracle spell?

Or would the mythic party just Rambo their way through Cheliax?


You: One of the underlying aspects of being good is that you don't have a compulsion or desire or need to go to someone else's place and transform it into something you prefer without their consent.

1. Not even if a planet's been completely taken over by devils?

2. What would empyreal lords do in cases of infernal planetary takeover?

3. Which Rob were you talking about? Rob McCreary?

4. Would you describe what your preferred music is like? I'm not familiar enough with band names to get an idea from those alone.

5. Thanks for deeming my WotR PC as creative! :) Any tips for playing an inquisitor as a trickster?


Axial wrote:

what I want to know is *canonically* what would Abrogail do to try to fight a nigh-invincible mythic deathsquad? Calling in a favor from an Archdevil or something? A Miracle spell?

Or would the mythic party just Rambo their way through Cheliax?

I suspect the canonical answer is that Paizo has not statted up Abrogail or her personal retinue, and so her personal defenses are entirely up to whatever GM is running this scenario.

Speaking as a GM - Abrogail is a 16th level sorcerer in her own right, and queen of the arguably strongest and richest nation in Avistan. Her personal resources are enormous. Mind blank, screen, and teleport trap are all possible counters to a hypothetical scry and fry - assuming her bedroom/personal sanctum's even on Golarion and not its own demiplane warded with a private sanctum. Abrogail is both rich and powerful, and is really only limited to what a GM decides she's limited to.

If my high level PCs announced to me that they were running off to Cheliax to kill the queen, I'd stop the game so that I could prep for what the PCs are actually getting themselves into. Abrogail's something of the scrappy underdog in this situation, but it should still be incredibly messy.

With all that said, a couple questions for Mr. Jacobs:

1) Let's say someone manages to kill Abrogail and, more importantly, manages to get her with trap the soul. How severe a response would that draw from Hell, and how far up the chain would that go?

2) Is Desna's realm of Cynosure actually safe for mortals to go to?


In the RAW it states "Most penalties do stack, meaning that their values are added together."

If I used summon monster 4 or above to summon multiple archons with aura of menace, would the auras stack?

For example, if there were 3 archons and the enemy failed all saves, would they get -6 to everything? If they don't stack, due to the wording of aura of menace, would the enemy only need to make one save for all auras or would he need to make all 3 saves or get the -2?

Would an aura with the same name not stack in general because it would count as the same source? Or would the fact that it is coming from different archons constitute it as different sources?

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James Jacobs wrote:

4) I'd love to do a Taldor AP... but so would Rob, and we have opposite opinions as to who the "good guys" are in that nation...

A Taldor AP works best with the PCs as the good side. Both Eutropia and the Bearded are different sides of the same coin with their own motivations, good sides and bad. A Taldor AP shouldn't be about helping the "good guys" win, but having to make a tough choice that has long lasting impact on a whole nation. A choice that does not have a clear "right" answer.

But I have a lot of ideas and feelings about that, personally.


Zhangar wrote:
Axial wrote:

what I want to know is *canonically* what would Abrogail do to try to fight a nigh-invincible mythic deathsquad? Calling in a favor from an Archdevil or something? A Miracle spell?

Or would the mythic party just Rambo their way through Cheliax?

I suspect the canonical answer is that Paizo has not statted up Abrogail or her personal retinue, and so her personal defenses are entirely up to whatever GM is running this scenario.

Speaking as a GM - Abrogail is a 16th level sorcerer in her own right, and queen of the arguably strongest and richest nation in Avistan. Her personal resources are enormous. Mind blank, screen, and teleport trap are all possible counters to a hypothetical scry and fry - assuming her bedroom/personal sanctum's even on Golarion and not its own demiplane warded with a private sanctum. Abrogail is both rich and powerful, and is really only limited to what a GM decides she's limited to.

If my high level PCs announced to me that they were running off to Cheliax to kill the queen, I'd stop the game so that I could prep for what the PCs are actually getting themselves into. Abrogail's something of the scrappy underdog in this situation, but it should still be incredibly messy.

Even though you're not James Jacobs, I appreciate your commentary on this matter.

If nothing else, it seems like she can put up a bit of a fight and won't take this challenge lying down. If her advisors warned her that the mythic party was coming to kill her, I can imagine that she would take them very, very seriously and immediately start planning. Her preparations might involve gathering the most powerful Hellknights, Asmodean clerics, and summoned devils to her side and being ready for the worst. Seeing as how a nonmythic level 16 can easily be killed by people of that level, she'd probably try to avoid direct contact at all costs.

I wouldn't be surprised if she has some kind of "High level people are out for my head!" contingency in place.


would you sign off on a dynasty warriors/pathfinder video game crossover featuring the iconics?


christos gurd wrote:
would you sign off on a dynasty warriors/pathfinder video game crossover featuring the iconics?

Oh, wow. I can imagine Merisiel's Musou special involving her throwing knives everywhere.

Funny thing is, I was thinking of stating up Kaguya from Warriors Orochi as an Aasimar Heavens Oracle.

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What post? Where's the link to the rules? OMG - how bad would a post have to be in order to be removed?

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Q: What is the best response to the statement "I slept with your mother last night"?

I'm not trying to be crass - this is another legitimate bully tactic. I have "a friend" that is dealing with this kind of thing and appreciate your insight.


would you ever create a mythic power that allowed a mythic character to gain a planar realm

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Zhangar wrote:


Speaking as a GM - Abrogail is a 16th level sorcerer in her own right, and queen of the arguably strongest and richest nation in Avistan. Her personal resources are enormous. Mind blank, screen, and teleport trap are all possible counters to a hypothetical scry and fry - assuming her bedroom/personal sanctum's even on Golarion and not its own demiplane warded with a private sanctum. Abrogail is both rich and powerful, and is really only limited to what a GM decides she's limited to.

That's not speaking as a GM. That's someone who's reading off a published book entry.

This is speaking as a GM.

Abrogail and her entourage is whatever combination of classes,templates, and/or mythic ranks as I feel she needs to be depending on what kind of challenge she is going to present.

Or...

"After a fierce battle the Thrice Dammed Queen lies at your mercy. Showing none as she has, you separate her head from her lithe body, to find both dissolving into show until the only thing left behind is her fading mocking laugh......

and then you realise your trial has yet to begin.

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Rysky wrote:
Aside from making monsters what properties does Soul Lead have? For example if used to make weapons and armor?

No other properties. It's pretty useless for weapons or armor.


James Jacobs wrote:


The mythological Orcus isn't a fat animal-headed demon who wields a death-dealing wand. That version of Orcus would normally be protected under WotC's intellectual property... but they gave permission to Necromancer Games to use that version in the Tome of Horrors, so they went and statted up that version of Orcus in an open-license product. That's the only reason you even see us mentioning Orcus to the extent you do in our books.

As for why we're downplaying him? Becuase he's kinda been played out. Of ALL the game's demon lords over the past 40 years, Orcus has been used the most. Beyond Dead Gods, he was also the main bad guy of the Bloodstone Pass adventures earlier on, and he played a big role in 4th edition D&D I believe (at the very least, they put him on the cover of their Monster Manual). He also had a big role in our own Savage Tide Adventure Path, so even we at Paizo did some stuff with him. And beyond that, he was featured in a big way in both Slumbering Tsar and in Rapan-Athuk.

We've got 30 or so demon lords, most of which are brand new. We focus on those new demon lords because they deserve stories as well, and by NOT focusing much at all on Orcus, we keep the current stories out there viable for home games.

So, was reading back and this caught my eye and raised my curiosity about something.

In your opinion, why do you think Orcus, out of all the dozens of demon lords that have been created for D&D over the years, was so prolific in his use in official products?

And while you guys at Paizo may have no interest in using him in a story capacity, would you ever consider statting him up in a Bestiary or Campaign Setting Book just so he could be used by a DM who might want to include him? If so, what CR do you imagine you'd give him?

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Axial wrote:

Understandable, but what I want to know is *canonically* what would Abrogail do to try to fight a nigh-invincible mythic deathsquad? Calling in a favor from an Archdevil or something? A Miracle spell?

Or would the mythic party just Rambo their way through Cheliax?

I got that, but I'm not gonna reveal what "canonically" she'd do. I'm saving that to the day when and if we do an adventure that actually involves her. Until then... what she does is up to you/your GM.

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AlgaeNymph wrote:

You: One of the underlying aspects of being good is that you don't have a compulsion or desire or need to go to someone else's place and transform it into something you prefer without their consent.

1. Not even if a planet's been completely taken over by devils?

2. What would empyreal lords do in cases of infernal planetary takeover?

3. Which Rob were you talking about? Rob McCreary?

4. Would you describe what your preferred music is like? I'm not familiar enough with band names to get an idea from those alone.

5. Thanks for deeming my WotR PC as creative! :) Any tips for playing an inquisitor as a trickster?

1) Correct. Rescuing that planet is a mortal task, not an angel task.

2) Help mortals who help themselves.

3) Yes. He is the Only Rob.

4) My music preferences are actually quite widespread. I'm pretty much not into musicals/showtunes, country music, and most pop music. Dead Can Dance is my favorite band, I suppose. Here's one of my favorite songs by them.

5) No prob! And my tips for playing characters are basically play to the personality, not to the numbers, so I don't really have build advice. I don't really like getting into those discussions.

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Zhangar wrote:


1) Let's say someone manages to kill Abrogail and, more importantly, manages to get her with trap the soul. How severe a response would that draw from Hell, and how far up the chain would that go?

2) Is Desna's realm of Cynosure actually safe for mortals to go to?

1) Again... I'm not really interested in going down this "what if" scenario. Queen Abrogail is the level she is because that makes her a good place to be for the end of a normal Adventure Path. A "Fight Cheliax" AP would not be an appropriate storyline for a mythic party.

2) Yes. As long as they follow the rules and don't try anything funny, in which case it's as dangerous a place as any angry goddess's home is.

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mrmayonnaise wrote:

In the RAW it states "Most penalties do stack, meaning that their values are added together."

If I used summon monster 4 or above to summon multiple archons with aura of menace, would the auras stack?

For example, if there were 3 archons and the enemy failed all saves, would they get -6 to everything? If they don't stack, due to the wording of aura of menace, would the enemy only need to make one save for all auras or would he need to make all 3 saves or get the -2?

Would an aura with the same name not stack in general because it would count as the same source? Or would the fact that it is coming from different archons constitute it as different sources?

Nope; those auras wouldn't stack because it counts as the same source.

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christos gurd wrote:
would you sign off on a dynasty warriors/pathfinder video game crossover featuring the iconics?

Not without looking into Dynasty Warriors, which I'm not familiar with.

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eldergod0515 wrote:
Chris Lambertz wrote:
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What post? Where's the link to the rules? OMG - how bad would a post have to be in order to be removed?

Don't worry about it; it was an immature question/comment.

The post rules are here.

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eldergod0515 wrote:
Q: How come, sometimes, my RSS feed doesn't get all of the posts on this thread?

I have absolutely no idea. I don't even use RSS feeds at all. That's a question for the tech team.

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eldergod0515 wrote:

Q: What is the best response to the statement "I slept with your mother last night"?

I'm not trying to be crass - this is another legitimate bully tactic. I have "a friend" that is dealing with this kind of thing and appreciate your insight.

Ignore the question and the person asking it.

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xavier c wrote:
would you ever create a mythic power that allowed a mythic character to gain a planar realm

Nope. That's the type of thing you should go on a quest to get.

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FormerFiend wrote:

In your opinion, why do you think Orcus, out of all the dozens of demon lords that have been created for D&D over the years, was so prolific in his use in official products?

And while you guys at Paizo may have no interest in using him in a story capacity, would you ever consider statting him up in a Bestiary or Campaign Setting Book just so he could be used by a DM who might want to include him? If so, what CR do you imagine you'd give him?

I think that for much of TSR's time, PARTICULARLY during 2nd edition, they were too afraid of backlash to do much at all with demons.

Furthermore, in 1st and 2nd edition, they didn't actually have a lot of demon lords to play with. Maybe a dozen. There were a lot more names, but only about a dozen or so that actually had stats and storylines.

They had those demon lords mentioned several times in various products, but as for demon lords that were used as significant end-game bosses of large adventures or adventure series... TSR simply didn't use that plot that often.

Off the top of my head, the big adventures that involved demon lords were:

Temple of Elemental Evil: Zuggtmoy
Queen of the Spiders: Lolth
Bloodstone Saga: Orcus
Dead Gods: Orcus (sort of)

(not counting the stuff we did in Dungeon Magazine)

I'm ignoring a lot of less high-profile adventures, such as things like "Shrine of Ilsidihur" or "Headless" or "Lost Caverns of Tharizdun" and the like since they're not "big adventures."

So really... the fact that Orcus was used twice out of the 4 big ones that come to mind doesn't really count as prolific, in my opinion... since the demon lord bad guy adventure itself wasn't prolific itself.

And when you add in significant Demon Lord things we did in Dungeon, you get to add...

Shackled City: Adamarchus
Savage Tide: Demogorgon (among many others)
Maure Castle: Malcanthet (among several others)

checking my handy list of Demon Lord CRs... I've got Orcus pegged at CR 30, along with Abraxas, Nocticula, and Pazuzu.


So if Orcus' fat-ram-headed-bastard-with-a-stinger-tail appearance is not OGL, why is he described exactly that way in Lords of Chaos? Is his description not copyright unless you actually draw him? And if you did give him a CR, doesn't that mean he's going to get a write up at some point?

Personally, I think he's prominent because his status as Demon Prince of the Undead allows you to heavily integrate both demons and undead into the campaign.

Liberty's Edge

James,

I) What's your opinion on Andoran?

II) Can a evil character be truly charitable?

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1. How does it feel to have lived through the birth and establishment of a cryptid? (Chupacabra)

2. How would you feel about a module where the players play as young characters using the rules in Ultimate Campaign, eventually transitioning to either adults, full PC classes, or both?

3. What games other than Pathfinder and Call of Cthulhu are you currently playing?

4. If you're not playing any other games, which games have piqued your interest as of late?

5. Does your kitty get a valentine?

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Dear J.Jacobs-

As you level up are you able to put ranks in Trained Only skills such as Disable Device, Linguistics, etc.if they should deviate from your class list? And if you can than that simply means you would not get the +3 bonus correct? Thanks for your help and this thread.


Hi James

I'm having a little chat with Ben Wootten on Deviantart about the Imperial Dragons he made for Bestiary 3 Box (which are more than awesome!), and when I asked if he had made some Primal Dragon artwork for Paizo in the past he answered that he didn't but would like to some day!

So my question is: Will we ever see a Brine, Cloud, Umbral, Crystal and Magma Dragon in Wootten style? :-p

I would love to see some Primal and Outer Dragons drawn in the style of Ben Wootten! So I hope you (or the person who goes about the art) consider it! :-D


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Dear Tyrant Lizard King,

Now that I have Bestiary 4, what monster should I use from it first against my level 7 party?

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Axial wrote:

So if Orcus' fat-ram-headed-bastard-with-a-stinger-tail appearance is not OGL, why is he described exactly that way in Lords of Chaos? Is his description not copyright unless you actually draw him? And if you did give him a CR, doesn't that mean he's going to get a write up at some point?

Personally, I think he's prominent because his status as Demon Prince of the Undead allows you to heavily integrate both demons and undead into the campaign.

JJ mentioned before that that version of Orcus IS OGL, because it's statted up in the TOme of Horrors from Necromancer Games, which is OGL.

It's Demogorgon and many of the others who are not, because they aren't in the SRD, and never got permission to be reprinted elsewhere.

==Aelryinth


Is it possible to redeem evil artifacts found in Wrath of the Righteous?

Thanks for answering our questions.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
James Jacobs wrote:


3) Yes. He is the Only Rob.

Priaise Rob. Does he look like this?

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