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I love the story of Geb and Nex and how their rivalry nuked the Mana Wastes. Are we more likely to get an AP that focused on their Rivalry or one that focused on one or the other?

Which of the two do you like better?


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I've been trying to find this on the forums, but can't find it.

Fact : Goblins do not read (most goblins anyway).

Query : My understanding is, this is about words being stolen from their brain. However... Does this apply to everything you could do, or just 'words'? For example, would goblins draw a picture of a sunset? Or make tattoo's on each other? Or do other non-writing type things? Would they do the equivalent of old picto-graphic depictions like Cave Paintings?

This comes up due to a recent happening in Jade Regent.

Redundant Spoiler Tag is Redundant:

While in the village of Goblins, my Paladin (a Divine Hunter who ended up leading the way because we were all splitting up to find anything alive in it) opened a door, and 3 goblins started throwing garbage at him (they didn't have any weapons apparently, so threw garbage). Now, being a LG Paladin of Ragathiel, he didn't really feel all that valiant shooting 3 unarmed obviously terrified goblins with his bow. Since he spoke goblin, he roared at them to shut up and quit throwing things (being a Tiefling with a high diplomacy, he actually shut them up) and spent a minute talking them down from hostile/scared to neutral.

Finally, after pumping them for information and convincing one of the 4(, another joined them after a band of 6 attacked us while we talked, the other 5 died, one surrendered) that they should go hide with the chief (thus causing him to run off and bang on the chief's hut to hide with him where we could see where he went), I picked one and convinced him to show us where the cave with the fireworks were (amazing what some food and diplomacy and the promise of a gold piece can do). But the reason was, one of the other players said 'Oh, he won't draw us a map, goblins don't do that', and I didn't even think of it at the time. So I made him go along. On thinking it over, I really don't see why they'd have trouble with a map, they just wouldn't put words on it, woudl they? Just drawing the swamp shouldn't steal words from their heads.

Thanks to that though, I now have a tagalong goblin who follows us everywhere and I'm having to try to 'civilize' him. Fortunately, so far, he's been more helpful than not (noticing ambushes, standing watch (with someone), etc).

I'm beginning to think I may have to take leadership and turn him into a cohort at this point to play true to character.

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Kairos Dawnfury wrote:

I love the story of Geb and Nex and how their rivalry nuked the Mana Wastes. Are we more likely to get an AP that focused on their Rivalry or one that focused on one or the other?

Which of the two do you like better?

It's unlikely, since Nex is very much in Erik Mona's court, and he's currently WAY too busy to be involved that heavily in an Adventure Path.

I prefer Geb, though, since that's where Arazni lives, and since she's one of my creations I kinda feel more pride in that side of the Mana Wastes.

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mdt wrote:

I've been trying to find this on the forums, but can't find it.

Fact : Goblins do not read (most goblins anyway).

Query : My understanding is, this is about words being stolen from their brain. However... Does this apply to everything you could do, or just 'words'? For example, would goblins draw a picture of a sunset? Or make tattoo's on each other? Or do other non-writing type things? Would they do the equivalent of old picto-graphic depictions like Cave Paintings?

This comes up due to a recent happening in Jade Regent.

** spoiler omitted **...

Goblins don't read because of an overwhelming social taboo about writing. They think that words steal thoughts out of your head, and that if you write too much, you're basically leaking your soul and personality out of you and will eventually become a mindless shell or die or worse.

The fact that they don't read is a side effect of this fear of actually writing.

A goblin raised outside of goblin society would not develop this fear, but one who grew up among goblins would have a hard time learning to unlearn this belief. It's not impossible, but still unlikely.

Goblins use drawings for signs when they need them. They certainly do paintings and the like, and also do sculpture and other forms of art. Just no words.


James Jacobs wrote:
mdt wrote:

I've been trying to find this on the forums, but can't find it.

Fact : Goblins do not read (most goblins anyway).

Query : My understanding is, this is about words being stolen from their brain. However... Does this apply to everything you could do, or just 'words'? For example, would goblins draw a picture of a sunset? Or make tattoo's on each other? Or do other non-writing type things? Would they do the equivalent of old picto-graphic depictions like Cave Paintings?

This comes up due to a recent happening in Jade Regent.

** spoiler omitted **...

Goblins don't read because of an overwhelming social taboo about writing. They think that words steal thoughts out of your head, and that if you write too much, you're basically leaking your soul and personality out of you and will eventually become a mindless shell or die or worse.

The fact that they don't read is a side effect of this fear of actually writing.

A goblin raised outside of goblin society would not develop this fear, but one who grew up among goblins would have a hard time learning to unlearn this belief. It's not impossible, but still unlikely.

Goblins use drawings for signs when they need them. They certainly do paintings and the like, and also do sculpture and other forms of art. Just no words.

The Free RPG Day Modules: We Be Goblins and We Be Goblins Too are good example.


James Jacobs wrote:
TheLoneCleric wrote:
2. Where in the would do players have the highest chance of finding a working airship, even if a prototype?
2) Alkenstar.

Guns and Airships... when?


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James Jacobs wrote:


Goblins don't read because of an overwhelming social taboo about writing. They think that words steal thoughts out of your head, and that if you write too much, you're basically leaking your soul and personality out of you and will eventually become a mindless shell or die or worse.

The fact that they don't read is a side effect of this fear of actually writing.

A goblin raised outside of goblin society would not develop this fear, but one who grew up among goblins would have a hard time learning to unlearn this belief. It's not impossible, but still unlikely.

Goblins use drawings for signs when they need them. They certainly do paintings and the like, and also do sculpture and other forms of art. Just no words.

Ok, that's what I thought on second thought. I'll let the GM know for future. :) Would have saved me dealing with a tagalong. Oh well, it's been semi-fun riding herd on him (or her) anyway. :)


James, just curious. Are you familiar with the LP module: First Quest the Music?

If so, do you think it would be easy to us it as a Pathfinder module?


Will there be more information on the history of the troglodytes in Golarion any time soon?


James, how would you stat up a genetically engineered human like Khan from Wrath of Khan/Into Darkness?

25 point buy?

Advanced creature template on top?

He seems to have some kind of DR/Regen/Fast Healing judging from Into Darkness.


Varisian Wanderer wrote:
4) Where would you say Greek and Roman styles of dress (tunics, togas, sandals, chitons, chlamys, etc) originate from in Golarion? The tunic seems fairy widespread. I could see ancient Taldor or Cheliax. Perhaps that style stems from the ancient Azlanti?

Azlant and Iblydos like James said, and from what I can tell, Jistka also seems a prime candidate, although it's wholly plausible that they adopted such a style from Azlant. Given that the 'toga' style was pretty damn similar to Indian garb, I would say in Vudra as well, and plausibly that could extend to Nagajor in Tian Xia (depending on actual Vudra/Nagajor connection), and since Tibetan Monks also have a similar style I might also expect it in Tian monestaries.

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5) Concerning the Roman / Greek style of dress above, where could you see such outfits still being popular (either in everyday dress, among the high-born, or worn for rituals)?

I'm guessing that whenever Iblydos is done up, it may retain a good amount of that for flavor's sake. Also see Vudra and aspects of Tian Xia. Of course if you're interested in "Roman/Greek" flavor in particular, and not clothing that materially is similar yet the flavor context is different, that may not interest you. I would say it's plausible for Inner Sea region Monk monasteries to retain a similar style though.

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Belle Mythix wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
TheLoneCleric wrote:
2. Where in the would do players have the highest chance of finding a working airship, even if a prototype?
2) Alkenstar.

Guns and Airships... when?

Wardens of the Reborn Forge should be out by the end of the year; hopefully sooner! Stay tuned!

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The Countess wrote:

James, just curious. Are you familiar with the LP module: First Quest the Music?

If so, do you think it would be easy to us it as a Pathfinder module?

Never heard of it.

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Icyshadow wrote:
Will there be more information on the history of the troglodytes in Golarion any time soon?

No plans to do much with troglodytes anytime soon.

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Starsunder wrote:

James, how would you stat up a genetically engineered human like Khan from Wrath of Khan/Into Darkness?

25 point buy?

Advanced creature template on top?

He seems to have some kind of DR/Regen/Fast Healing judging from Into Darkness.

Advanced creature template works best. Plus give him a 25 point buy and PC gear.


Asmodeus Sincerely cares for his worshipers?

I meant of the core Deities which care for the well being of there worshipers


James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
which of the core Deities Sincerely care for there worshipers
All of them.

Wow, even Rovagug?


James Jacobs wrote:
The Countess wrote:

James, just curious. Are you familiar with the LP module: First Quest the Music?

If so, do you think it would be easy to us it as a Pathfinder module?

Never heard of it.

These days it's quite obscure. It's an AD&D module done to a LP record, in England. It's narrator is the great Valentine Dyall. He played The Black Guardian in Doctor Who during the 70's I believe.


Mr. James Jacobs,

Say you have an intern applicant who misses a meeting, but he missed because google gave him the wrong directions. The applicant wants to try again. Would you give this applicant another chance?


Wow, thanks for the answers regarding Shelyn's holy symbol! That really has me intrigued. I thought the bird might be extinct, considering how settled some parts of the Inner Sea are. Here are a few follow-up questions.

1) What region(s) would you say the bird was native to?

2) What primarily drove it to extinction? Loss of habitat, killed for its feathers, hunted down by evil faiths?

3) What name would you suggest for it? Ones I've considered are the Shelynite Thrush, the Rainbow-tailed Thrush, the Muse's Thrush, and the Divine Thrush.

4) Would you say celestial versions exist? Perhaps native to Nirvana or Shelyn's realm there?

4a) If a celestial version does exist, would it be available as an Improved Familiar and to be summoned? Maybe using the stats for a celestial thrush or celestial eagle?

5) Would finding a way to reintroduce the bird to Golarion be a suitably epic quest for a Shelynite PC?

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xavier c wrote:

Asmodeus Sincerely cares for his worshipers?

I meant of the core Deities which care for the well being of there worshipers

What constitutes "well-being" for Asmodeus or Rovagug may well differ from what Desna or Iomedae might define it though.

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The Golux wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
which of the core Deities Sincerely care for there worshipers
All of them.
Wow, even Rovagug?

"Care" might not be the right word here, I guess. Maybe "hordes" or "clutches onto" or simply "values" works better.

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The NPC wrote:

Mr. James Jacobs,

Say you have an intern applicant who misses a meeting, but he missed because google gave him the wrong directions. The applicant wants to try again. Would you give this applicant another chance?

I would... but I'm not the one who handles that. Wes is the one said applicant would need to beg forgiveness from.


James, Have you read The Ocean at the End of the Lane? I think you might really enjoy it.


James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
meant of the core Deities which care for the well being of there worshipers
What constitutes "well-being" for Asmodeus or Rovagug may well differ from what Desna or Iomedae might define it though.

And that seems born out by the number of Evil or othewise 'sketchy' Deities who are supposedly sometimes worshipped or paid obeisance by non-Evil commoners and the like who are looking for protection in the sphere of influence of that deity. Even if they may not always be such a great idea in the end.

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Varisian Wanderer wrote:

Wow, thanks for the answers regarding Shelyn's holy symbol! That really has me intrigued. I thought the bird might be extinct, considering how settled some parts of the Inner Sea are. Here are a few follow-up questions.

1) What region(s) would you say the bird was native to?

2) What primarily drove it to extinction? Loss of habitat, killed for its feathers, hunted down by evil faiths?

3) What name would you suggest for it? Ones I've considered are the Shelynite Thrush, the Rainbow-tailed Thrush, the Muse's Thrush, and the Divine Thrush.

4) Would you say celestial versions exist? Perhaps native to Nirvana or Shelyn's realm there?

4a) If a celestial version does exist, would it be available as an Improved Familiar and to be summoned? Maybe using the stats for a celestial thrush or celestial eagle?

5) Would finding a way to reintroduce the bird to Golarion be a suitably epic quest for a Shelynite PC?

1) Azlant.

2) Earthfall.

3) I like Musethrush.

4) I suspect so.

4a) If the GM is willing to stat it up, I guess so.

5) Yup!

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Hitdice wrote:
James, Have you read The Ocean at the End of the Lane? I think you might really enjoy it.

I have heard of it, haven't read it yet though...

Sczarni

Alexander Augunas wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Alexander Augunas wrote:

So I sort of did something tonight that caught my GM for a loop and now I'm trying to figure out how to prevent myself from getting killed. Could you take a look at my situation and lend me some Knowledge (System Mastery) checks?

** spoiler omitted **...

True seeing isn't a 4th level spell, and it costs money on top of that. But if you're paranoid about true seeing looking through a disguise, don't use magic. Use a physical Disguise, bolstering your Disguise check via other methods. Or perhaps use a mind controlled minion?

Oh ... oh my. You're absolutely right. I have no idea why I thought it was a 4th level spell! And I could spend that gold on a bunch of items that give me competence bonuses and/or insight bonuses on Disguise checks instead, maybe get a headband of vast intellect that grants me ranks in Disguise too while I'm at it. I could get so good at mundane Disguises that no one could ever tell the difference!

You, sir, are a brilliant man-dinosaur-Director.

Or make a deal with another Rakshasa. Ask him to impersonate the one you killed.


Do npcs with class levels get favored class bonuses?

Also can magical horseshoes, such as horseshoes of speed or horseshoes of the zephyr be used by creature's that are only horse-like? such as nightmares, dragon horses or eidolons with a horse-like appearance (including hooves)?

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
The Golux wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
which of the core Deities Sincerely care for there worshipers
All of them.
Wow, even Rovagug?

Cthulhu Saves! In case he gets hungry later.

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Threeshades wrote:

Do npcs with class levels get favored class bonuses?

Also can magical horseshoes, such as horseshoes of speed or horseshoes of the zephyr be used by creature's that are only horse-like? such as nightmares, dragon horses or eidolons with a horse-like appearance (including hooves)?

They can if that's the class they chose as their favored class.

I'd let magic horseshoes work on anything that has four legs and horse feet.

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Ombrenuit wrote:
Alexander Augunas wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Alexander Augunas wrote:

So I sort of did something tonight that caught my GM for a loop and now I'm trying to figure out how to prevent myself from getting killed. Could you take a look at my situation and lend me some Knowledge (System Mastery) checks?

** spoiler omitted **...

True seeing isn't a 4th level spell, and it costs money on top of that. But if you're paranoid about true seeing looking through a disguise, don't use magic. Use a physical Disguise, bolstering your Disguise check via other methods. Or perhaps use a mind controlled minion?

Oh ... oh my. You're absolutely right. I have no idea why I thought it was a 4th level spell! And I could spend that gold on a bunch of items that give me competence bonuses and/or insight bonuses on Disguise checks instead, maybe get a headband of vast intellect that grants me ranks in Disguise too while I'm at it. I could get so good at mundane Disguises that no one could ever tell the difference!

You, sir, are a brilliant man-dinosaur-Director.

Or make a deal with another Rakshasa. Ask him to impersonate the one you killed.

I'm Neutral Good. I'm more likely to try and kill the new rakshasa. : / Especially if he's anything like our last rakshasa, who embodied the societal taboos of pedophilia and incest. >_<

With that said, the particular course of action my character has chosen to deal with the pirates (classic spy-and-subterfuge missions with a sprinkle of assassinations) could very easily steer him away from his alignment. While that might be interesting, I'm more interested in trying to figure out how someone who is Neutral Good could justify doing some of the things he is going to have to do. I was planning on growing a religious experience out of it.

My character is currently agnostic in that he acknowledges the gods but doesn't really worship them, and I think that is something that most RPG settings don't capture very well. Virtually all of such settings have people who worship gods for power and tangible blessings, but very few present characters who embody the very real idea that worshiping a higher power can be spiritually invigorating in its own right. Many people are religious (or spiritual) simply because that faith gives them the strength to carry on against insurmountable odds.

Those are my favorite kinds of religious characters, anyway. The ones that aren't zealously devoted, but instead worship for spiritual strength, fortitude, forgiveness, and redemption.


Tell me what you think about this. I have devised a house rule for people to identify people with class levels. It is a Knowledge check based on the knowledge that are listed as class skills for that class. The thought there is if it a field of study and you have done things in that you are likely to be known among that circle. The DC is set at 25 minus the level of the person indicating the more you have done the more likely you are known. The DC to know specific details about them as far as equipment used or weakness falls back to 10 + CR gaining more information for every 5 pts you exceed the DC. I use this in conjunction with a title system that gives every level a title.
For example; The man before you seems weathered from many travels, his armor and sword have seen much action. (pc's ask to identify him roll and succeed but fail to know specifics about him)
You recognize him to be a Shield Sergeant (8th lv) with the Crossed Swords Guilds his name is Istaban Greenfields, however you don't recall much more than that.

This gives PC's and NPC's a way of identifying each other or estimating the other persons level.

Grand Lodge

James,

Player showed me the Darksire Amulet for tieflings. That's a pretty neat item for them. However, it says under the creation guidelines that a tiefling, half-fiend, or true fiend are required to create it. Does this also mean that a half-fiend and a true fiend can wear this amulet and gain the same +5 bonus to resistances?


Ever read a Terry Pratchett book?

If so, how did you like it?


How often/how much do you use 3PP stuff?


James Jacobs wrote:
I prefer Geb, though, since that's where Arazni lives, and since she's one of my creations I kinda feel more pride in that side of the Mana Wastes.

You flatterer! And as for my question, several of my court seem to think I should send a regiment of soldiers to help the crusade against the Worldwound demons. I think this would surprise everyone, and really hose off those Knights of Ozem. Good idea or great idea?


Why is Arazni okay with being called the Harlot Queen?

I surely would take offense at the first word if I were her.

The Exchange

James,

How rare are the classes in the Advanced Class Guide? If the ones from the Core are the most common and APG are next after that, does that make the likes of Shaman, Swashbucklers, etc very rare in Golarion? Do people even make those distinctions?

From say an Oracle, Paladin, Cleric and Warpriest?


James Jacobs wrote:
Threeshades wrote:

Do npcs with class levels get favored class bonuses?

Also can magical horseshoes, such as horseshoes of speed or horseshoes of the zephyr be used by creature's that are only horse-like? such as nightmares, dragon horses or eidolons with a horse-like appearance (including hooves)?

They can if that's the class they chose as their favored class.

Ah okay, i wasn't sure wether this was a PC-only thing, like maximum rollable HP on level 1, or not.


James Jacobs wrote:
Kairos Dawnfury wrote:

I love the story of Geb and Nex and how their rivalry nuked the Mana Wastes. Are we more likely to get an AP that focused on their Rivalry or one that focused on one or the other?

Which of the two do you like better?

It's unlikely, since Nex is very much in Erik Mona's court, and he's currently WAY too busy to be involved that heavily in an Adventure Path.

I prefer Geb, though, since that's where Arazni lives, and since she's one of my creations I kinda feel more pride in that side of the Mana Wastes.

Oooo, I love Arazni's story. She resonated with me most as I first got to know Golarion. I really want to have my Paladin lead an assault into Geb to free her from lichdom and free the Graveknights also.

We have stats for Arazni in Mythic Realms, right? Would the Graveknights who were raised from the knights who tried to rescue/end her be unique? Do you think we may be getting stats for them as well, and would they be Mythic?

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Chrysanthe Spiros wrote:

Why is Arazni okay with being called the Harlot Queen?

I surely would take offense at the first word if I were her.

Does she have that much free will to care, or is she Geb's creature?

Did you create Arazni as a lich with backstory, or was she originally alive when you brought her forth into your original campaign?

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Cool, Uncool, or Insane:

For my home campaign that I run, I recently sat down and mapped out the region that my PCs have been exploring for the past year or so (real-world time) and are now starting to do some kingdom building of their own. After finishing the map, I went onto Adobe Illustrator and made a Hex grid that was of the appropriate scale (1 Hex = 12 Miles, spaced enough so that the map's area shows a region roughly the size of California) and then took this PDF file to Staples and had it printed onto a transparency sheet of plastic.

Before leaving, I bought a three-subject notebook and ripped out the subject dividers to have roughly 120 undivided sheets of paper. When I got home, I immediately started breaking up the book into sections of nine lines, with each page possessing three "sections." These sections were split into groups of 25 and labelled with the letters "A through W" to correlate with my Hex Grid; there are roughly 525 hexes on this grid and every section was labelled with a standard format like the following:

HEX # / Hex Owner
Hex Type
Hex Element(s)
Hex Improvements

Next I colored the map and drew in major landmarks as well as labelled important features on the map itself. On the transparency, I marked off political boundaries and then immediately started inscribing this information into my notebook, one hex at a time. After completing an entire letter's worth of pages, I go back and randomly determine on a d% if that hex has a settlement in it (95 - 100 indicates a settlement) before moving on to the next letter.

Its been a lot of work, but I'm hoping it'll allow me to bring an equal amount of depth to the region when my players start exploring those hexes!


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James,
have you seen the pictures of the new island that was formed by the recent earthquake off the coast of pakistan.

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biosteelman wrote:

Tell me what you think about this. I have devised a house rule for people to identify people with class levels. It is a Knowledge check based on the knowledge that are listed as class skills for that class. The thought there is if it a field of study and you have done things in that you are likely to be known among that circle. The DC is set at 25 minus the level of the person indicating the more you have done the more likely you are known. The DC to know specific details about them as far as equipment used or weakness falls back to 10 + CR gaining more information for every 5 pts you exceed the DC. I use this in conjunction with a title system that gives every level a title.

For example; The man before you seems weathered from many travels, his armor and sword have seen much action. (pc's ask to identify him roll and succeed but fail to know specifics about him)
You recognize him to be a Shield Sergeant (8th lv) with the Crossed Swords Guilds his name is Istaban Greenfields, however you don't recall much more than that.

This gives PC's and NPC's a way of identifying each other or estimating the other persons level.

I guess that's okay... but I also think it's kind of overcomplicating things a bit.

At the very least, I'd simplify it down to making a Knowledge (local) check to know about local personalities.

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kevin_video wrote:

James,

Player showed me the Darksire Amulet for tieflings. That's a pretty neat item for them. However, it says under the creation guidelines that a tiefling, half-fiend, or true fiend are required to create it. Does this also mean that a half-fiend and a true fiend can wear this amulet and gain the same +5 bonus to resistances?

Nope. It remains an amulet for tieflings regardless of who makes it.

Which doesn't mean someone else couldn't build the exact same rules effects into a completely differently flavored magic item to affect any other race, of course.

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Icyshadow wrote:

Ever read a Terry Pratchett book?

If so, how did you like it?

I've not read any of his books, but I did read a novella. I was not a fan. Too goofy.

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DarthPinkHippo wrote:
How often/how much do you use 3PP stuff?

Relatively often—you can check out any Adventure Path's OGL to see proof of the fact that we use different 3PP stuff all the time. I don't normally use a HUGE range of other products, and generally focus in pretty tightly on a few books by a few companies, though.

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Arazni, Harlot Queen of Geb wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
I prefer Geb, though, since that's where Arazni lives, and since she's one of my creations I kinda feel more pride in that side of the Mana Wastes.
You flatterer! And as for my question, several of my court seem to think I should send a regiment of soldiers to help the crusade against the Worldwound demons. I think this would surprise everyone, and really hose off those Knights of Ozem. Good idea or great idea?

Wouldn't it be better to let the Knights of Ozem use up their resources and watch them from afar, then perhaps send those minions up to Lastwall to mess with them when their attention is diverted?


If Malcanthet existed in the Pathfinder cosmology, how would you differentiate her from Nocticula?

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