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Is Sun Wukong a god (as implied in the Dragon Empires Gazetter) or a demigod (as implied in the novel Master of Devils)?


Have you seen the new Godzilla King of the Monsters trailer? New Alita Battle Angel trailer?

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Blissful Lightning wrote:

Hi James,

I'm gonna start running Return of the Runelords in a week, and my last player has finally picked his character concept: a Chaotic Good cleric of Yog-Sothoth, as suggested by the Player's Guide.

I'm cool with his choice, but I know even less about Yog-Sothoth's cult than I know about Yog-Sothoth himself (itself? theirself?), which isn't a lot. Where can I find more information about Yog-Sothoth's cult and its customs without diving deep into Lovecraftian lore, which—to be perfectly honest—is a thing I do not particularly enjoy?

Best place to go for the Pathfinder take on Yog-Sothoth is to check out the Elder Mythos article in the first volume of the Strange Aeons Adventure Path.

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Ausk One-Hand wrote:
Is Sun Wukong a god (as implied in the Dragon Empires Gazetter) or a demigod (as implied in the novel Master of Devils)?

Full deity, not a demigod, if I remember correctly. The best way to tell is that deities offer 5 domains while demigods offer 4 domains.

Note that "god" and "goddess" are more generic terms we use to cover anything that grants spells. Only "deity" and "demigod" and "quasi-deity" are the terms used when we want to be precise about power levels.

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Have you seen the new Godzilla King of the Monsters trailer? New Alita Battle Angel trailer?

Not yet.


I really wish to see a newer version of the playtest. Is 1.6 the last version we can see before the official publication of Second Edition?

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I really wish to see a newer version of the playtest. Is 1.6 the last version we can see before the official publication of Second Edition?

The playtest is pretty much over at this point. We're still looking at feedback but we've pretty much moved on to finalizing the game at this point. There will be no more playtest updates.


James,

I'm a big fan of your old "Far Corners of the World" articles from back in your WotC days.

I am curious as to what other classes' spell-lists you'd add the spells from this series to?

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BV210 wrote:

James,

I'm a big fan of your old "Far Corners of the World" articles from back in your WotC days.

I am curious as to what other classes' spell-lists you'd add the spells from this series to?

Wow... that's a blast from the past! I haven't thought about that series for nearly a decade, and I'm 2 editions behind on D&D, so I can't really give much of an insight into the articles these days. If you're asking what spell lists would I add the spells from the series to Pathfinder classes... also not sure without going back through the articles, and I'd rather leave that set of decisions to fans of the articles at this point since assigning spells to the numerous spell lists we have in Pathfinder is a lot of work.


Is it possible for a human (or something that counts as a human) to have Racial Heritage (Android)?

The reason I ask is because Androids are sterile, so they shouldn’t be able to have kids for a Racial Heritage (Android) to kick in, but the rules don’t say this is disallowed, so I thought that maybe there was some other way for this to occur.

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Reksew_Trebla wrote:

Is it possible for a human (or something that counts as a human) to have Racial Heritage (Android)?

The reason I ask is because Androids are sterile, so they shouldn’t be able to have kids for a Racial Heritage (Android) to kick in, but the rules don’t say this is disallowed, so I thought that maybe there was some other way for this to occur.

There are other ways to gain a racial heritage other than via biology/being born to a mother. Gene splicing, transmutation magic, teleportation errors, wishes and miracles, and more can all do the trick, but it's good to come up with SOME sort of story reason for unusual situations like this one.

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Hi James,

Is the newly redeemed Noticula still considered a demon depsite no longer being CE and no longer residing in the Abyss?


What might drive an Android to be a Vigilante? I feel like this is an unusual enough concept to be a fresh and enjoyable experience.

Normally I’d just say anything, but they are emotionless, so there would be far less reasons for them to do so.

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Jurassic Pratt wrote:

Hi James,

Is the newly redeemed Noticula still considered a demon depsite no longer being CE and no longer residing in the Abyss?

She is not.

She's also no longer a demigod, but a full-fledged deity, and as such is no longer bound by rules like creature types. She's got demonic features and a demonic legacy, of course, but she's no longer an actual demon since she doesn't epitomize demonic natures like Lamashtu (or angelic natures like Sarenrae, or devilish natures like Asmodeus, etc.).

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Reksew_Trebla wrote:

What might drive an Android to be a Vigilante? I feel like this is an unusual enough concept to be a fresh and enjoyable experience.

Normally I’d just say anything, but they are emotionless, so there would be far less reasons for them to do so.

Any character build that requires emotions, be it a rules-based build like a barbarian or a thematic/flavor based build like a vigilante, will be an unusual and challenging choice for an android. I'd say avoid it unless you have a specific killer idea for that character, or want a challenge. That said, anything might drive an android to be a vigilante, just as with any other race, but the fact that the android made that choice is the interesting part, and so you should play up that fact.

Or maybe just the standard "Constructed creature adopts a living creature alter ego" trope. Pinocchio, more or less.

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On a scale of 1 to 10, how much is Dan going to regret divulging his secret fear of scorpions to you on the livestream?


James Jacobs wrote:
Reksew_Trebla wrote:

What might drive an Android to be a Vigilante? I feel like this is an unusual enough concept to be a fresh and enjoyable experience.

Normally I’d just say anything, but they are emotionless, so there would be far less reasons for them to do so.

Any character build that requires emotions, be it a rules-based build like a barbarian or a thematic/flavor based build like a vigilante, will be an unusual and challenging choice for an android. I'd say avoid it unless you have a specific killer idea for that character, or want a challenge. That said, anything might drive an android to be a vigilante, just as with any other race, but the fact that the android made that choice is the interesting part, and so you should play up that fact.

Or maybe just the standard "Constructed creature adopts a living creature alter ego" trope. Pinocchio, more or less.

Would you recommend I start with, or at least build up to (through roleplay/story arcs) the Empathy feat, which removes the Emotionless trait?

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Misroi wrote:
On a scale of 1 to 10, how much is Dan going to regret divulging his secret fear of scorpions to you on the livestream?

10.

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Reksew_Trebla wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Reksew_Trebla wrote:

What might drive an Android to be a Vigilante? I feel like this is an unusual enough concept to be a fresh and enjoyable experience.

Normally I’d just say anything, but they are emotionless, so there would be far less reasons for them to do so.

Any character build that requires emotions, be it a rules-based build like a barbarian or a thematic/flavor based build like a vigilante, will be an unusual and challenging choice for an android. I'd say avoid it unless you have a specific killer idea for that character, or want a challenge. That said, anything might drive an android to be a vigilante, just as with any other race, but the fact that the android made that choice is the interesting part, and so you should play up that fact.

Or maybe just the standard "Constructed creature adopts a living creature alter ego" trope. Pinocchio, more or less.

Would you recommend I start with, or at least build up to (through roleplay/story arcs) the Empathy feat, which removes the Emotionless trait?

I think it's more interesting to build an android vigilante who doesn't have that feat, since if you give the android that feat it kinda dilutes the flavor of playing an android.


What would you consider to be the building blocks for an interesting and memorable combat encounter?

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Pharasmin wrote:
What would you consider to be the building blocks for an interesting and memorable combat encounter?

Interesting foes that have had enough foreshadowing to let the players build anticipation. Combat challenges that make the players feel like their chosen specializations made the difference. Fun visual aids like minis or battle mats or music or sounds or handouts.


When a sacrifice dies, the soul lens draws his soul across any intervening distance to empower the runewell. Does that mean the soul of the sacrifice cannot go to the Boneyard, and will be trapped in Karzoug's soul lens for the eternity?

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Aenigma wrote:
When a sacrifice dies, the soul lens draws his soul across any intervening distance to empower the runewell. Does that mean the soul of the sacrifice cannot go to the Boneyard, and will be trapped in Karzoug's soul lens for the eternity?

As detailed in Rise of the Runelords, the soul lens "scrapes" a sacrificed soul, harvesting a tiny sliver of energy without harming the soul itself. The soul is free to go on to the afterlife essentially unharmed, either to go on to its final reward or to be resurrected if the dead person's friends wish to do so. (This was a deliberate design element by the runelords; had they just captured full souls, they would have played their hand and likely seen more trouble than it would be worth from psychopomps, aeons, and outraged adventurers. By scraping souls in this unnoticeable way they're a lot sneakier.)


Do you think you would have created the proteans if WotC had made the slaadi OGL?


So back to the Android Vigilante, I was originally considering an unusual Animal Companion, that the Android finds interesting, but it would be illegal, then I realized I could make it less setting specific than depending on the location of the game’s laws, by making it either an Augmented Companion, or a one level dip into Construct Rider Alchemist, so that way the AC would be a target of the Technic League, and the Android would want to protect it, hence becoming a Vigilante.

But I don’t really care much for mounted combat, and the only Vigilante archetype that advances an AC is Mounted Fury, which you guessed it, uses mounted combat.

Then I thought, “what if the Android themself is the unusual tech?” So Tumor Familiar (two level dip Alchemist or 1 level dip any class that can get the Aberrant Bloodline while taking the Aberrant Familiar feat), Tattoo Familiar (one level dip Tattooed Sorcerer), Eyeball Familiar (one level dip Eyebiter Mesmerist), or Hand’s Detachment “Familiar” (requires at 5 levels for all the feats required, or 3 levels if I trade my two traits for a bonus feat at character creation).

Which of these Familiars do you think would work best for an Android trying to hide from the Technic League for being unusual tech?

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HTD wrote:
Do you think you would have created the proteans if WotC had made the slaadi OGL?

Probably not, but I think that would have been very unfortunate. Now that Patfhfinder's fully established, we're finding that creatures that are drawn from mythology (demons, devils, psychopomps, angels) or creatures that we made up whole cloth (proteans, aeons, azatas [discounting the three in the first Bestiary) are much more interesting to explore and much less fraught with potential legal problems when we do products that don't use the OGL (miniatures, novels, various licensed products).

Had we gone with slaadi, we would have been in a position today where the lawful neutral AND the chaotic neutral outsider races were both based on concepts that we can't fully explore across multiple mediums. As it stands, it's increasingly less interesting to me to expand on innevitables than it is to explore things like axiomites or aeons.

Furthermore, it's IMPORTANT for a game to have creatures that are iconicly theirs. I think slaadi are better being D&D only, in other words, rather than having dual storylines that go different directions. Gaming is a more interesting place with more choices.

Part of me wishes Wizards of the Coast kept MORE creatures as their own intellectual property, as a result today. Sure, it would have been sad to not be able to play with gelatinous cubes and otyughs and owlbears, but that would have just forced us to innovate new creatures. Who knows what sorts of great new monsters we would have to play with now had we not simply stuck with the OGL? The proteans wouldn't be here had we been able to use slaadi, and that's sad to think about cause I like proteans a lot better!

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Reksew_Trebla wrote:

So back to the Android Vigilante, I was originally considering an unusual Animal Companion, that the Android finds interesting, but it would be illegal, then I realized I could make it less setting specific than depending on the location of the game’s laws, by making it either an Augmented Companion, or a one level dip into Construct Rider Alchemist, so that way the AC would be a target of the Technic League, and the Android would want to protect it, hence becoming a Vigilante.

But I don’t really care much for mounted combat, and the only Vigilante archetype that advances an AC is Mounted Fury, which you guessed it, uses mounted combat.

Then I thought, “what if the Android themself is the unusual tech?” So Tumor Familiar (two level dip Alchemist or 1 level dip any class that can get the Aberrant Bloodline while taking the Aberrant Familiar feat), Tattoo Familiar (one level dip Tattooed Sorcerer), Eyeball Familiar (one level dip Eyebiter Mesmerist), or Hand’s Detachment “Familiar” (requires at 5 levels for all the feats required, or 3 levels if I trade my two traits for a bonus feat at character creation).

Which of these Familiars do you think would work best for an Android trying to hide from the Technic League for being unusual tech?

Sounds like you need to talk to your GM; you're trying to build a character that plays very much against type, which can be a GREAT way to build a memorable and unusual and fun and exciting PC, but whenever you go against type you absolutely MUST have buy-in from your GM. She can help you make decisions, or can even create new content or approve new content from other books for use to round out choices that are limited due to your choice of an off-standard character build.

I'm not your GM so that's not something I can really help you with.

And as is standard for my answers here—if your'e building this character for the PFS organized play program, and are running into problems due to the nature of that campaign being a massively multiplayer game that necessarily limits certain options in order to function and doesn't have a GM who can specifically alter the rules for the game to accommodate a strange or unusual character build—my advice is to shelve that character concept for one in a home game and to go with something a bit more standard.


This is regarding Vadoma Gall, the additional NPC for Mummy's Mask in A Song of Silver. It says that she uses Charm Monster even though it is not in her spell list and is one of her opposition schools. Was she going to have a wand for that? Also, which part of Legacy of Fire was she at?

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Patrickthekid wrote:
This is regarding Vadoma Gall, the additional NPC for Mummy's Mask in A Song of Silver. It says that she uses Charm Monster even though it is not in her spell list and is one of her opposition schools. Was she going to have a wand for that? Also, which part of Legacy of Fire was she at?

No idea. I wasn't involved in writing or developing that NPC, so I have no insight, but it sounds like it was just an error.


In visiting the Grand Temple of the Peacock Spirit, each pilgrim unknowingly left a sliver of her soul within the building, which Xanderghul coul harvest to fuel his growing might. It seems that Karzoug's soul lens and Xanderghul's temple somehow inflict a very tiny wound on people's soul. Does this wound heal naturally? Or it doesn't, and thus one must live with a tiny sliver of his soul missing for the rest of his life? For example, if a particularly zealous worshiper of the Peacock Spirit decideds to visit the grand Temple more frequently, would this far too frequent visits harm his soul too much and he would die soon without knowing what's happening?

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Aenigma wrote:
In visiting the Grand Temple of the Peacock Spirit, each pilgrim unknowingly left a sliver of her soul within the building, which Xanderghul coul harvest to fuel his growing might. It seems that Karzoug's soul lens and Xanderghul's temple somehow inflict a very tiny wound on people's soul. Does this wound heal naturally? Or it doesn't, and thus one must live with a tiny sliver of his soul missing for the rest of his life? For example, if a particularly zealous worshiper of the Peacock Spirit decideds to visit the grand Temple more frequently, would this far too frequent visits harm his soul too much and he would die soon without knowing what's happening?

It heals naturally. It's kinda like someone stealing your fingernail clippings or hair from your hairbrush. Doesn't hurt you, and you probably won't notice... but they still get your DNA.


Recently I found out a fascinating spell called Manifold Presence from Chronicles of Darkness(aka New World of Darkness). It basically creates multiple temporary copies of the spellcaster that can also be made autonomous and can potentially operate anywhere in the world, while sharing their sensory input with the cater. If I convert this spell to Pathfinder, which school does this spell belong to, you think?

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Aenigma wrote:
Recently I found out a fascinating spell called Manifold Presence from Chronicles of Darkness(aka New World of Darkness). It basically creates multiple temporary copies of the spellcaster that can also be made autonomous and can potentially operate anywhere in the world, while sharing their sensory input with the cater. If I convert this spell to Pathfinder, which school does this spell belong to, you think?

Depending on the flavor you decide on, it could be illusion (if the duplicates are partially real, like those created by shadow conjuration or simulacrum), conjuration (if they're conjured from alternate timelines), necromantic (if they're like clones created from your body), or transmutation (if they're transformed from existing material). That said, it also sounds incredibly powerful; beyond even what a wish would be able to do. So what I'd do if I wanted this in a game would be to make it an artifact's effect, since it kinda breaks the rules.


Mokmurian claimed the tunnels below the Vale of the Black Tower as his lair, fortified the land above, and called it Jorgenfist. Does that mean it was Mokmurian that first named the city as Jorgenfist, and before Earthfall the Thassilonians called the city as the Vale of the Black Tower? In other words, is the name Jorgenfist a Giant word instead of a Thassilonian word?


If you were making a NG elven sherlock Holmes/detective type of character, who do think you would use for a deity for him?

I was kind of hoping for some kind of knowledge or history or science type.. but the closest I could think was Irori, for self perfection but he's not really a very 'physical' character.


What do you think about the name “R. Synthia (any last name here)” for an Android?

The R is based off of some famous writer and his naming convention for robots and androids, though I can’t remember his name, and Synthia is meant to be a form of Synthetic.

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Aenigma wrote:
Mokmurian claimed the tunnels below the Vale of the Black Tower as his lair, fortified the land above, and called it Jorgenfist. Does that mean it was Mokmurian that first named the city as Jorgenfist, and before Earthfall the Thassilonians called the city as the Vale of the Black Tower? In other words, is the name Jorgenfist a Giant word instead of a Thassilonian word?

Jorgenfist is a Jotun (giant) word, yes.

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phantom1592 wrote:

If you were making a NG elven sherlock Holmes/detective type of character, who do think you would use for a deity for him?

I was kind of hoping for some kind of knowledge or history or science type.. but the closest I could think was Irori, for self perfection but he's not really a very 'physical' character.

One of the elven deities, probably. If the detective wasn't a cleric, the alignment of the deity in question is kind of irrelevant to a certain extent.

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Reksew_Trebla wrote:

What do you think about the name “R. Synthia (any last name here)” for an Android?

The R is based off of some famous writer and his naming convention for robots and androids, though I can’t remember his name, and Synthia is meant to be a form of Synthetic.

Not a fan. Pun names aren't my favorite.

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Dear James Jacobs,

Have you ever noticed that the Calistrian faith is actually really, really similar to LaVeyan Satanism?


Reksew_Trebla wrote:

What do you think about the name “R. Synthia (any last name here)” for an Android?

The R is based off of some famous writer and his naming convention for robots and androids, though I can’t remember his name, and Synthia is meant to be a form of Synthetic.

You're looking for Isaac Asimov, I believe. :)

Do you think of characters you've played in the past often, or do characters you're currently playing/writing for typically crowd them out?

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I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:

Dear James Jacobs,

Have you ever noticed that the Calistrian faith is actually really, really similar to LaVeyan Satanism?

I have not.

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Almonihah wrote:
Reksew_Trebla wrote:

What do you think about the name “R. Synthia (any last name here)” for an Android?

The R is based off of some famous writer and his naming convention for robots and androids, though I can’t remember his name, and Synthia is meant to be a form of Synthetic.

You're looking for Isaac Asimov, I believe. :)

Do you think of characters you've played in the past often, or do characters you're currently playing/writing for typically crowd them out?

Depends on the character. And the ones that I do end up thinking of often from the past tend to stay active as NPCs or as characters illustrated in Pathfinder products these days.

Grand Lodge

Do you think it's "out-of-character" for a Kami to start a Magic Academy to prevent the influence of an Oni Damayo from advancing to a certain nation for the following years? Or do you think it's too distant from the natural nature of kami to do something like that?

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Ausk One-Hand wrote:
Do you think it's "out-of-character" for a Kami to start a Magic Academy to prevent the influence of an Oni Damayo from advancing to a certain nation for the following years? Or do you think it's too distant from the natural nature of kami to do something like that?

Yes, but some of the better/more popular stories arise from things acting out of character. Dirz'zt comes to mind.


According to page 185 of Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition, when Mokmurian opened Karzoug's tomb, the slumbering wizard struck with fierce and desperate power. Mokmurian felt Karzoug enter his mind and soul, and his fate from that point on was no longer his own. I thought this means that Karzoug cast charm or dominate spell on Mokmurian. But page 231 says that he is not under any magical compulsion. I'm not sure. Then what does 'Karzoug enter his mind and soul' means? And I thought Mokmurian was not evil at all and his endeavors to unite the giants and conquer Varisia was the result of Karzoug's order. But if Karzoug didn't magically control him, does that mean Mokmurian did all those things in his sane mind and he is originally evil beyond redemption?


Salutations! I’m trying to increase my bonus to Knowledge (Golarion) on account of DMing a game set there, and had some questions about demons.

What qualifies as a Demon Prince? Is it just the title for high CR demons like Balors and Mariliths, or are they all unique entities? What’s the CR range on them?

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Aenigma wrote:
According to page 185 of Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition, when Mokmurian opened Karzoug's tomb, the slumbering wizard struck with fierce and desperate power. Mokmurian felt Karzoug enter his mind and soul, and his fate from that point on was no longer his own. I thought this means that Karzoug cast charm or dominate spell on Mokmurian. But page 231 says that he is not under any magical compulsion. I'm not sure. Then what does 'Karzoug enter his mind and soul' means? And I thought Mokmurian was not evil at all and his endeavors to unite the giants and conquer Varisia was the result of Karzoug's order. But if Karzoug didn't magically control him, does that mean Mokmurian did all those things in his sane mind and he is originally evil beyond redemption?

Mokmurian was evil before he encountered Karzoug. Karzoug didn't mind control him (he can't cast enchantment spells, after all), but sort of possessed him for a bit; the "entered his mind and soul" bit is mostly just flavor text. There are no rules mechanics for what happened, but in the end Karzoug, who has a LONG history of browbeating and forcing giants to work for him, got Mokmurian to serve him the old fashioned way: by Bluff, Diplomacy, and Intimidate.

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Asmodeus' Advocate wrote:

Salutations! I’m trying to increase my bonus to Knowledge (Golarion) on account of DMing a game set there, and had some questions about demons.

What qualifies as a Demon Prince? Is it just the title for high CR demons like Balors and Mariliths, or are they all unique entities? What’s the CR range on them?

That's a question to ask D&D. We don't have a "demon prince" category in Pathfinder... just demon lord (which is a gender neutral term in this case). What qualifies a demon to be a demon lord is rulership over an Abyssal realm. They're all unique entities. Most ascend to the role after being a nascent demon lord for quite some time. All nascent demon lords are unique entities as well. Nascent demon lords are usually CR 21 to CR 25 (but it's possible for one to be lower CR). All demon lords are CR 26 to CR 30.


Huh. I have no idea how I got the notion that “Demon Prince” was Pathfinder’s term for demons a step beneath Demon Lords. I remember reading it somewhere . . . must be my mind playing tricks on me, or a misremembered sentence. This is going to bug me. :/

Um, it’s bad etiquette to post without asking a question, I think, so . . . how dire would circumstances have to be before you’d bum a wish off a glabrezu?

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