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Archpaladin Zousha wrote:

Anyway, as the texts seem to state that a do-maru is primarily leather with metal for the vital parts, does that mean making it with Mithral wouldn't be a good idea, as there isn't enough metal components to make a noticeable difference in weight?

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Sounds similar to studded leather, honestly, in that the bulk is made of leather with metal bits for reinforcement. Just as there's no such thing as mithral studded leather (other than to be ornamental, I guess), sounds like there shouldn't be such a thing as mithral do-maru.

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What's your favorite Ray Harryhausen movie, if you have one? They were the treasures of my childhood, watched one of them every week. Mine was Jason and the Argonauts, curiously enough.

Hmmm... Favorite Harryhausen movie would come down to a touch choice between "7th Voyage of Sinbad" and "The Valley of Gwangi." In the end, I'd probably go for Gwangi since as awesome as "7th Voyage" is, the fact that it's filled with white actors hasn't aged it well. Plus, allosaurus trumps dragons and cyclopes any day of the week.

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Isabelle Lee wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
And absolutely I would LOVE to see more prestige class books in the Player Companion line. Something like Paths of the Green (prestige classes associated with nature deities, the Green Faith, the Eldest, and the like); or Paths of the Wicked (prestige classes for evil faiths); or Paths of the Crusader (prestige classes based on war faiths or mercenary groups or national armies); or Paths of the Forgotten (prestige classes based on obscure organizations and forgotten faiths); or Paths of the Hidden (prestige classes based on secret societies) or so on. I'd love to see it expand beyond just being themed to religions, but there's hundreds of other faiths that can each still support their own prestige classes for sure.

If you did add these books to the schedule, are there any lovely and talented freelancers you'd ask to write for them? ;)

(You don't actually have to answer that.)

James Jacobs wrote:
It's more likely that you'll see us continue to periodically include stuff beyond the Inner Sea in books but not devote entire books to regions beyond—like how there's information about the Crown of the World or Shenmen in the upcoming "Horror Realms," or how the upcoming Qadira book touches upon Kelesh and Casmaron.
My excitement for Horror Realms has officially doubled. ^_^

I'm not on schedule to work on the Player Companion line as of today, but things like that lately have changed on a weekly basis... so time will tell!

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Paladinosaur wrote:

James, I have a few more questions:

Are rangers that worship a deity bound to the same alignment restrictions as clerics? Or could I have, say, a CG ranger of Erastil?
And how common are non-casters that worship deities that don't match their alignments, like a LN fighter that worships Gorum?

ANYONE who worships a deity pretty much ends up being bound by the same rules that restrict clerics, because if you faithfully worship a deity and follow that deity's teachings, the result is that you're the same alignment as that deity. The rules don't come right out and say it, but it's common sense. If you're acting chaotic enough to be chaotic in alignment, you're not really doing a good job honoring a lawful deity.

People who worship off-alignment, such as a lawful fighter who purports to worship Gorum, are either very rare heretics/blasphemers, or merely lip-service worshipers who don't really get the faith and aren't actually all that religious OR are simply ignorant and don't get the whole idea of faith/worship. OR have players who are trying to be special snowflakes and trying to break the rules rather than play by them, I guess... which happens a lot, since there's a lot of players who like to fish for attention by creating characters that break the mold or stand out from the norm or otherwise do something "unexpected."

In fact, if your character has a tragically low Wisdom score (say, 9 or lower), having them worship a deity that's not their alignment is an excellent way to model that sort of thing, in the same way playing a character who can barely talk in complete sentences is a good way to model low Intelligence or playing a character who has no personality and doesn't talk during roleplaying encounters is a good way to model low Charisma.

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James Jacobs wrote:
Paladinosaur wrote:

James, I have a few more questions:

Are rangers that worship a deity bound to the same alignment restrictions as clerics? Or could I have, say, a CG ranger of Erastil?
And how common are non-casters that worship deities that don't match their alignments, like a LN fighter that worships Gorum?

ANYONE who worships a deity pretty much ends up being bound by the same rules that restrict clerics, because if you faithfully worship a deity and follow that deity's teachings, the result is that you're the same alignment as that deity. The rules don't come right out and say it, but it's common sense. If you're acting chaotic enough to be chaotic in alignment, you're not really doing a good job honoring a lawful deity.

People who worship off-alignment, such as a lawful fighter who purports to worship Gorum, are either very rare heretics/blasphemers, or merely lip-service worshipers who don't really get the faith and aren't actually all that religious OR are simply ignorant and don't get the whole idea of faith/worship. OR have players who are trying to be special snowflakes and trying to break the rules rather than play by them, I guess... which happens a lot, since there's a lot of players who like to fish for attention by creating characters that break the mold or stand out from the norm or otherwise do something "unexpected."

In fact, if your character has a tragically low Wisdom score (say, 9 or lower), having them worship a deity that's not their alignment is an excellent way to model that sort of thing, in the same way playing a character who can barely talk in complete sentences is a good way to model low Intelligence or playing a character who has no personality and doesn't talk during roleplaying encounters is a good way to model low Charisma.

Thanks!

Does this mean that in a country like Cheliax, the majority of the population would pay lip-service to Asmodeus, perhaps event attend church, without being evil themselves?


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James,

Curious why the vast majority of deities in Inner Sea Faith do not grant an extraplanar ally for the 3rd Exalted ability, like all the ones in Inner Sea Gods did??

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Are there any colonies of dwarves/duergar in the areas of the Darklands outside of the Inner Sea Region map? Or former colonies, from before the Quest for Sky? Just wanting to double check before I develop a complex backstory for a duergar under Garund.

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Paladinosaur wrote:
Does this mean that in a country like Cheliax, the majority of the population would pay lip-service to Asmodeus, perhaps event attend church, without being evil themselves?

That's pretty much exactly what it means. Paying lip-service to a deity does not require faith in that deity, and in fact if you're paying lip-service, that more or less means you do NOT have faith in that deity. You're just afraid of the repercussions of appearing non-faithful, or trying to avoid causing problems, or deliberately being deceitful, etc.

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Monkeygod wrote:

James,

Curious why the vast majority of deities in Inner Sea Faith do not grant an extraplanar ally for the 3rd Exalted ability, like all the ones in Inner Sea Gods did??

Not all the ones in Inner Sea Gods do either. In fact, less than a third of them grant extraplanar allies as their third Exalted boon. Of the twenty, only Iomedae, Norgorber, Pharasma, Rovagug, Sarenrae, and Zon-Kuthon allow for summoning an extraplanar ally. A few others, like Torag and Urgathoa, allow summoning of other non-extraplanar allies, but more than half grant something else entirely.

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Gark the Goblin wrote:
Are there any colonies of dwarves/duergar in the areas of the Darklands outside of the Inner Sea Region map? Or former colonies, from before the Quest for Sky? Just wanting to double check before I develop a complex backstory for a duergar under Garund.

Not really, but even if there were in print, that shouldn't keep you from making your version of Golarion your own.

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I haven't yet reviewed the products here on paizo because I want to run each book before I review them, but absolutely loving Hell's Rebels so far - both from what I've run and from reading it (same for Serpent's Skull actually).

My questions is about the Darklands - as far as I know there aren't any sources for areas of the Darklands that aren't close to or under the Inner Sea, except slight mentions (like a Munavri colony on the edge of the Sightless Sea underneath Arcadia), so do you think there are significant differences between the areas of the Darkland we know about and areas that are not yet explored, or is it more homogenous? :)

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Arcaian wrote:

I haven't yet reviewed the products here on paizo because I want to run each book before I review them, but absolutely loving Hell's Rebels so far - both from what I've run and from reading it (same for Serpent's Skull actually).

My questions is about the Darklands - as far as I know there aren't any sources for areas of the Darklands that aren't close to or under the Inner Sea, except slight mentions (like a Munavri colony on the edge of the Sightless Sea underneath Arcadia), so do you think there are significant differences between the areas of the Darkland we know about and areas that are not yet explored, or is it more homogenous? :)

I certainly understand that stance, but waiting until you run an adventure (which may be months or years away, or indeed might never happen) does us no good, especially since the best time to have reviews in for a product is closer to their launch date when they're still at the forefront of folks' minds. There's no problem posting a review about an adventure with the caveat "I haven't run this yet, but the art/writing is excellent/terrible" or whatever.

SIDE NOTE:

Spoiler:
It further complicates things from a player side—when a player reviews an adventure, I can usually tell if they're actually posting a review of the adventure or (knowingly or not) a review of their GM. It's pretty frustrating to see someone give a bad review of an adventure and then learn through reading that everything that they complain about was an error or a change or an addition their GM made. Especially if in the same review they laud and brag about "How great their GM is." Saw a review back in the day of an adventure I helped write called "Red Hand of Doom," which overall got pretty decent reviews, but one HUGE review over on enworld was SCATHING and tore the adventure apart, giving it 1 star "because the GM managed to salvage something here and there" and then, upon reading the review, it was cripplingly obvious that every single thing the reviewer hated were changes or additions his GM made to the adventure. Put me in a frustrating spot, to say the least, since there was pretty much no way for me to step in and "correct" the review without looking like an egomaniac or a thin-skinned crybaby... :P

There is information about the Darklands below Tian Xia in the Dragon Empires Gazetteer. Each region has its own Darklands, and each is sort of influenced by the surface land above.There are no drow or duergar below Tian Xia, for example, but there sure are ratfolk and clockworks!

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Put me down for a copy of "Paths of the Green" please!

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Could one use a heavy mace as a cane?

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Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
Could one use a heavy mace as a cane?

If you're asking "can a cane use heavy mace stats" then no. A cane is a club.

Beyond that, I'd say that using a heavy mace as a cane would be awkward and uncomfortable and perhaps dangerous.

Shorter answer: no.


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James Jacobs wrote:
Paladinosaur wrote:
Does this mean that in a country like Cheliax, the majority of the population would pay lip-service to Asmodeus, perhaps event attend church, without being evil themselves?
That's pretty much exactly what it means. Paying lip-service to a deity does not require faith in that deity, and in fact if you're paying lip-service, that more or less means you do NOT have faith in that deity. You're just afraid of the repercussions of appearing non-faithful, or trying to avoid causing problems, or deliberately being deceitful, etc.

Hi James!

That made me think of a follow up question. How does Pharasma view such lip service? Does it matter that in a place like Cheliax one would be heavily influenced to pay lip service whether they wanted to do so or not? In short does intent make a difference?

Thank you!

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Is it possible for a character to travel from Jinin in the Dragon Empires to Riddleport in Varisia WITHOUT gaining character levels along the way (essentially remaining a first level character until they arrive and their actual adventures begin)?

Would you consider a crane more along the lines of a familiar or an animal companion?

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Have you found the Yellow Sign?

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James, what is the best birthday present you have ever received? And what is the best reaction someone gave you for a present you gifted them with?

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MeanDM wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Paladinosaur wrote:
Does this mean that in a country like Cheliax, the majority of the population would pay lip-service to Asmodeus, perhaps event attend church, without being evil themselves?
That's pretty much exactly what it means. Paying lip-service to a deity does not require faith in that deity, and in fact if you're paying lip-service, that more or less means you do NOT have faith in that deity. You're just afraid of the repercussions of appearing non-faithful, or trying to avoid causing problems, or deliberately being deceitful, etc.

Hi James!

That made me think of a follow up question. How does Pharasma view such lip service? Does it matter that in a place like Cheliax one would be heavily influenced to pay lip service whether they wanted to do so or not? In short does intent make a difference?

Thank you!

Lip service generally doesn't make a difference for people with strong faiths. For people with not strong faiths, paying lip service to a deity you don't believe in or don't support can end up tipping the scales for your soul into the "punishment" category rather than the "paradise" category.

AKA: Someone who grows up in Cheliax and isn't really religious but pays lip service to Asmodeus every worship day and during festivals but isn't a bad person has a better chance of going to heaven than hell than an equally irreverent person who lives in Andoran and pays lip service to Eratstil but is kind of a jerk.

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Archpaladin Zousha wrote:

Is it possible for a character to travel from Jinin in the Dragon Empires to Riddleport in Varisia WITHOUT gaining character levels along the way (essentially remaining a first level character until they arrive and their actual adventures begin)?

Would you consider a crane more along the lines of a familiar or an animal companion?

If the character is an NPC, absolutely. NPCs don't gain experience points. Whether or not an NPC levels up depends ENTIRELY on the GM's whim.

If the character is a PC, I suppose its possible if the GM's campaign is intended to be focused on Riddleport and not Jinin or the journey to Riddleport from Jinin. Remember, in effect, until you sit down and play your character in game it's not an active PLAYED character. All of the stuff you come up with for a character's history before that very first session is essentially stuff that your character did as a NON-PLAYED character. You are a player, but for your PC's pre-game history, you are in effect the GM of that NPC character. And thus, that NPC doesn't gain XP and won't gain levels. It's only when a character gets PLAYED that they can earn XP. (NOTE: This does include characters that a GM runs as an NPC who adventure with the PCs—things like cohorts or allies fall into this category, but even then exactly HOW those characters earn levels is largely left to individual GM preferences.)

I consider a crane to be far too large to be a familiar. Works better as an animal companion.

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Have you found the Yellow Sign?

Indeed I have. Found it for the first time in 1989, inside of this product. Of course, it was in black and white at the time...

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James, what is the best birthday present you have ever received? And what is the best reaction someone gave you for a present you gifted them with?

Hmmm. In 44 years, I actually can't think of a "best birthday present" that I've received. My birthday is on January 9th, which is only a few weeks away from Christmas, which means a LOT of my presents growing up blurred together there. In some cases, literally—in that I've received a fair amount of "This big present is your birthday present AND your christmas present." Which is soul-crushingly demoralizing for a kid, even if the present you get in such a situation is better than what you might have gotten otherwise. I guess one of my fondest memories of a present was unwrapping the wrapper and finding a copy of the 1st edition AD&D adventure "Queen of the Spiders." That one went on to be one of my favorite ever adventures, so that was pretty cool. Another (much more recent) surprising present was an old fancy copy of Moby Dick from the 50s. I guess the wagon I got as a kid was a big hit, but I don't really have many memories of that today other than amusement at how frustrated my dad's reactions are today when he thinks back about how tough it was to put together. OH! Also, the Hastur-themed mysterious package present folks got together to get me a few years ago was cool, but that was Christmas. Most of my birthday presents lately tend to be whatever neat book or video game is out at the time or stuff that's more utilitarian than surprising. Hmmm... I think maybe the best most recent birthday present I got, come to think of it, was a little tiny bigfoot walking on a little grassy hill inside of a little square plastic case. It's one of the cutest and most unique bigfoot themed things I've ever seen. (THANKS JESSICA!!!)

The best reaction I've gotten for a present I've gifted is a hug.

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So level 20 Wizards are the shapers of nations, level 20 Fighters are the slayers of tyrants, level 20 bards and experts are artisans that create masterpieces, and a level 20 Alchemist reversed aging. If we assume it is possible to gather the levels what would a level 20 Commoner be?

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Hey James. My reading comprehension is pretty abysmal compared to most other people, so I thought I'd double check before I did anything drastic to my players.
Under the gray ooze entry, it says for its CR 6 variant "Id oozes are advanced gray oozes". Now, does that mean literally that it has the Advanced Creature template? That was my interpretation to help explain why it went from CR 4 to CR 6 and has Int 2.

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So I stumbled across this post. As someone who ran that adventure, I just want to say that that sounds like an awesome archetype.

If we ever get a Paths of the Profane Player Companion, is there any chance we could get prestige classes for all four whore queens? I've always felt they were rather underserved, and would like to see them get a little more material. (Plus, giving each of them unique content lets you use their collective term a bit less, if that's a factor.)

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Kalindlara wrote:

So I stumbled across this post. As someone who ran that adventure, I just want to say that that sounds like an awesome archetype.

If we ever get a Paths of the Profane Player Companion, is there any chance we could get prestige classes for all four whore queens? I've always felt they were rather underserved, and would like to see them get a little more material. (Plus, giving each of them unique content lets you use their collective term a bit less, if that's a factor.)

I second this, I would love to know more about them as well.

Also, similar to how Arazni made "the Harlot Queen" title her own rather it remain an insult have the Erinyes Queens done the same, or do they actually have another title other than "Whore Queens"?


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Mr. James Jacobs,

Between Shackled City, Age or Worms, and Savage Tide, which do you think would be the most readily convertible to Golarion?

Also, which is the best substitute for Demogorgon?


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Hi James
When Iomedae passed the test of the starstone and became a Demi god she got the job of Arodens herald. Did she gain domains and was she able to grant people spells after passing the test? Or did she just become a unique outsider and didn't gain the ability to grant spell until Aroden died and she took over?

wrath of the righteous spoiler:
if at the end of wrath one of my Pcs who was a warpriest of iomedae passes teat of the star stone could he become iomedaes herald just like she did for Aroden? And would he become a Demigod or would he be a unique outsider?

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IDTheftVictim wrote:
So level 20 Wizards are the shapers of nations, level 20 Fighters are the slayers of tyrants, level 20 bards and experts are artisans that create masterpieces, and a level 20 Alchemist reversed aging. If we assume it is possible to gather the levels what would a level 20 Commoner be?

I don't believe we ever said any of the above. A level 20 bard can be a slayer of tyrants. A Level 20 wizard can reverse aging. Grouping bards and experts in the same category is kinda silly too.

I'm pretty sure that although the rules allow for a 20th level commoner that no such thing has ever or will ever exist in print for Pathfinder. Commoners above 8th level are pretty, well.. UNcommon. Those above 12th? I doubt they exist.

Likewise, while you can build a character who takes a new class each time she levels up... I doubt that any character like this exists. Just because you CAN build something with the rules doesn't by any means guarantee that thing should exist in world.

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kevin_video wrote:

Hey James. My reading comprehension is pretty abysmal compared to most other people, so I thought I'd double check before I did anything drastic to my players.

Under the gray ooze entry, it says for its CR 6 variant "Id oozes are advanced gray oozes". Now, does that mean literally that it has the Advanced Creature template? That was my interpretation to help explain why it went from CR 4 to CR 6 and has Int 2.

That's precisely what it means. Id oozes are gray oozes with the advanced creature template. Normally that would only boost a monster's CR by +1, but in this case, there's more going on with the id ooze beyond that simple template. The fact that they are intelligent (and thus have skills and feats), can communicate telepathically with other id oozes (and thus use complex tactics), and most important use confusion attacks helps to bump their CR up another point.

That said, if/when I ever stat up an id ooze in print, I would ALSO raise its Hit Dice by a few so that it would hit the numbers found on Table 1–1 in the Bestiary's appendix for a CR 6 creature.

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Kalindlara wrote:

So I stumbled across this post. As someone who ran that adventure, I just want to say that that sounds like an awesome archetype.

If we ever get a Paths of the Profane Player Companion, is there any chance we could get prestige classes for all four whore queens? I've always felt they were rather underserved, and would like to see them get a little more material. (Plus, giving each of them unique content lets you use their collective term a bit less, if that's a factor.)

Short answer: no

Longer answer...

Spoiler:

If a potential "Paths of the Profane" PC were to come out, it would have room for 14 prestige classes. Of those 14, 6 would be focused on the 6 evil deities of the core 20, leaving 8 open slots.

Of those 8 open slots, 5 would be taken up by classes for Achaekek, Ghlaunder, Droskar, Gyronna, and Zyphus, as the most significant other deities of the region, leaving 3 open slots.

Of those three remaining slots, I'd probably assign 1 each to the 3 evil alignments. The chaotic evil one would likely be focused on a demon lord, the neutral evil one on a horseman of the apocalypse (which ones chosen would depend on the ones who thematically allow for the exploration of new ground not already touched upon by the other classes already in play—for example, since there'd be an Urgathoa prestige class, the demon lord chosen would probably not be Zura, since undead and vampire themes would likely already be covered by Urgathoa.

Which leaves 1 "other" category for the last lawful evil one. And I would probably have this one be a prestige class for one of the 8 arch devils.

THAT SAID... not sure if you've checked out Hell's Rebels, but that AP has actually quite a bit of info about one of the whore queens...

And THAT said... a prestige class book isn't really the best place to explore an obscure deity in the first place since the prestige class's powers must take the center stage, which leaves very little room to detail the deity and her faith at all.

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Rysky wrote:
Also, similar to how Arazni made "the Harlot Queen" title her own rather it remain an insult have the Erinyes Queens done the same, or do they actually have another title other than "Whore Queens"?

The Whore Queens do not have another title. Hell is misogynistic. That's one of the ways hell is such a bastion of evil, and the concept of pure LAWFUL EVIL (aka the concept of traditional evil, or the evil of blind adherence to outdated or destructive traditions set up by ignorant or cruel predecessors) fits misogyny very well in my opinion.

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The NPC wrote:

Mr. James Jacobs,

Between Shackled City, Age or Worms, and Savage Tide, which do you think would be the most readily convertible to Golarion?

Also, which is the best substitute for Demogorgon?

Savage Tide, since it takes place "off the map." I think the Isle of Dread would work well to the southwest of the Shackles. And the other stuff would fit in well there as well. Sasserine would be a city on the mainland coast of the Shackles, while Cauldron would be inland.

Which means Shackled City would fit pretty well in there as well, I guess... but the fact that Shackled City relies so much on a specific D&D only monster means you'd have a bit more work cut out for you to adapt it.

Age of Worms would work the worst, because it's SO heavily invested in Greyhawk lore. I think it's actually a disservice to that AP to set it anywhere but Greyhawk.

The best choice for Demogorgon is to NOT substitute him at all but use Demogorgon. Golarion's Abyss is perfectly capable of having room for Demogorgon as one more demon lord, perhaps one on the same tier as Nocticula or Pazuzu for power. He'd still be under Lamashtu, but that doesn't mean he can't still be the demon lord of demons.

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Alundrell wrote:

Hi James

When Iomedae passed the test of the starstone and became a Demi god she got the job of Arodens herald. Did she gain domains and was she able to grant people spells after passing the test? Or did she just become a unique outsider and didn't gain the ability to grant spell until Aroden died and she took over?

Spoiler:
if at the end of wrath one of my Pcs who was a warpriest of iomedae passes teat of the star stone could he become iomedaes herald just like she did for Aroden? And would he become a Demigod or would he be a unique outsider?

Once you gain domains, you can grant spells. Whether or not Iomedae gained this ability as the result of taking the Test of the Starstone and became a demigod OR if she already had it before because she had mythic tiers and had the divine source power is something that I think we've been pretty unclear about.

What I do know is that when she emerged from the Starstone Cathedral, she did so as a unique outsider demigod. Likely a CR 26 one. Who swiftly rose in power to become the full on deity she is today (my preference is that it was Aroden's death and the power vacuum that resulted that allowed her to transcend from demigod to deity, but again, I'm pretty sure we've been unclear/vague about all that).

As for the spoilered part...

Spoiler:
How things work out for PCs who take the Test of the Starstone in your game is intentionally left 100% up to you as the GM. My suggestion would be for that PC to indeed become a demigod and thus become a unique outsider, but that would also pretty much force that player to retire the character and hand her over to you as an NPC in your version of Golarion, unless you felt super ambitious and wanted to keep running a game for a player whose character makes up its own rules!


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James,

You mentioned before that you wanted to do the Red Mantis Assassin companion book and I know that I am not the only person that would love to see a book dedicated to Golarion's greatest assassin cult. Is there a chance we could see this book within the next two years or so?

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James Jacobs wrote:

Short answer: no

Longer answer... ** spoiler omitted **

THAT SAID... not sure if you've checked out Hell's Rebels, but that AP has actually quite a bit of info about one of the whore queens...

And THAT said... a prestige class book isn't really the best place to explore an obscure deity in the first place since the prestige class's powers must take the center stage, which leaves very little room to detail the deity and her faith at all.

Fair enough - lots of good points I hadn't considered. Thank you! ^_^

I loved Hell's Rebels, including that article. I'm just sad that we'll probably never see the other three - I expect it'll be a long time before the APs go anywhere halfway appropriate. (The same goes for the missing archdevils.) For the record, I'd love to see an Inner Sea Gods-style book updating the Book of the Damned demigods with Deific Obedience info.

I know you've moved away from directly developing them, but do you still have any influence over which APs get produced?

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Grond wrote:

James,

You mentioned before that you wanted to do the Red Mantis Assassin companion book and I know that I am not the only person that would love to see a book dedicated to Golarion's greatest assassin cult. Is there a chance we could see this book within the next two years or so?

I suppose there's a chance... but not a big one. Not a big one at all.

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James, I have some questions about Nocticula

Spoiler:

If Nocticula ascended as a CN goddess, how would that leave her CE followers? How the majority of them would react to this change in her Ethos and what she stands for?
Once she ascended, would she "settle" as CN or would she strive to full redemption to eventually become good aligned?
If or when this history is told, would you like to explore her past and things like her relationship with her brother or the theory that she's a fallen celestial?


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James Jacobs wrote:
Alundrell wrote:

Hi James

When Iomedae passed the test of the starstone and became a Demi god she got the job of Arodens herald. Did she gain domains and was she able to grant people spells after passing the test? Or did she just become a unique outsider and didn't gain the ability to grant spell until Aroden died and she took over?

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Once you gain domains, you can grant spells. Whether or not Iomedae gained this ability as the result of taking the Test of the Starstone and became a demigod OR if she already had it before because she had mythic tiers and had the divine source power is something that I think we've been pretty unclear about.

What I do know is that when she emerged from the Starstone Cathedral, she did so as a unique outsider demigod. Likely a CR 26 one. Who swiftly rose in power to become the full on deity she is today (my preference is that it was Aroden's death and the power vacuum that resulted that allowed her to transcend from demigod to deity, but again, I'm pretty sure we've been unclear/vague about all that).

As for the spoilered part...

** spoiler omitted **

Awesome thanks James that helped a lot!

Did anyone worship iomedae when she was the herald of Aroden and get there spells from her spicificly or did they all pretty much just get there spells from Aroden?

Spoiler:

If the PC who is planing to take the test at the end of the campaign actually redeemed and married Nurah. If he took the test passed ad became iomedaes new herald. Would iomedae allow that character to bring her to the celestial realms with him to live out the rest of her life as a mortal? Would the now Demigod PC have the power to grant her imortality? Or would iomedae grant it to her as a thank you for her part in ending the world wound, or as a favor for her new herald? ( Nurah has been a huge part in the party and was with the party since they took citidel drezen) I don't want to do anything in game that would be out of character for iomedae.

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Paladinosaur wrote:

James, I have some questions about Nocticula

Spoiler:
If Nocticula ascended as a CN goddess, how would that leave her CE followers? How the majority of them would react to this change in her Ethos and what she stands for?
Once she ascended, would she "settle" as CN or would she strive to full redemption to eventually become good aligned?
If or when this history is told, would you like to explore her past and things like her relationship with her brother or the theory that she's a fallen celestial?

Spoiler:
A few of her chaotic evil followers would remain her worshipers; of those, a set would convert to chaotic neutral. The bulk of her followers would see her ascension to a CN goddess as a betrayal, and they would fracture. Many of them would switch religions to whoever ended up taking her place—most likely Shamira, but some would give up on her entirely and move on to other deities like Lamashtu or demon lords like Mestama or Zura.

She would settle as chaotic neutral. She's not a good person, and her areas of concern as a deity would not engender goodness (nor evil) in her worshipers.

And I wouldn't call it "history" since it hasn't happened. I do very much intend to explore it more at some point, and there would indeed be lots of revelations. I'm 99% sure she's NOT a fallen celestial. It's FAR more interesting if she started as a demon and becomes something else than if this was the third shift she had.

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Alundrell wrote:

Awesome thanks James that helped a lot!

Did anyone worship iomedae when she was the herald of Aroden and get there spells from her spicificly or did they all pretty much just get there spells from Aroden?

Spoiler:
If the PC who is planing to take the test at the end of the campaign actually redeemed and married Nurah. If he took the test passed ad became iomedaes new herald. Would iomedae allow that character to bring her to the celestial realms with him to live out the rest of her life as a mortal? Would the now Demigod PC have the power to grant her imortality? Or would iomedae grant it to her as a thank you for her part in ending the world wound, or as a favor for her new herald? ( Nurah has been a huge part in the party and was with the party since they took citidel drezen) I don't want to do anything in game that would be out of character for iomedae.

As soon as anyone can grant spells via whatever mechanic, that means there's at least ONE person who worships them. In fact it means that there were people (likely MORE than one, but not necessarily a lot) worshiping that person well before they first became a quasi deity or demigod.

Spoiler:
Once a character becomes a demigod, they pretty much get to make the bulk of their own decisions. What a demigod is able to grant depends on their statistics; they're not full deities and thus can't simply hand wave rules content. A lot of your questions in the spoiler above really come down to options and solutions you as the GM of the story in question get to make based 100% on your desires for what direction you WANT that story to take. And some of them could well be things that require further adventures or quests before they can take place. All up to you. I'm not gonna make your campaign decisions for you! :-P


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Art question!

Why are Urdefhan always wearing leather strips over their eyes, is it just because it makes them look cool, or is there a reason behind it. :-)

Have a splendid weekend!

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captain yesterday wrote:

Art question!

Why are Urdefhan always wearing leather strips over their eyes, is it just because it makes them look cool, or is there a reason behind it. :-)

Have a splendid weekend!

Because that's something that kinda got latched onto, I guess. There's not really any in-world reason for it. And indeed it makes no sense for their stats since they have to be able to see. In my homebrew, where they come from, they have red eyes that look creepy because you can see through the eyelids.

They've proven to be one of the most difficult things to get illustrated "right" for whatever reason, though.


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Mr. James Jacobs,

If someone was making a class or alternate class that focused on changing the character into one of the outsider types (Angel, Demon, Daemon, etc.) would the spell casing of that class be divine or arcane in your estimation? Also, which class spell list would it use?

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Mr. James Jacobs,

If someone was making a class or alternate class that focused on changing the character into one of the outsider types (Angel, Demon, Daemon, etc.) would the spell casing of that class be divine or arcane in your estimation? Also, which class spell list would it use?

I wouldn't make that a spellcasting class at all.

The druid does something similar; it has spellcasting and can change shape. It's an exceptionally powerful class with a lot of versatility AND very complicated.

IF I were to build a class that was about becoming an outsider, it would not cast spells. It would be a full BAB class, most likely, that would gain as its class abilities new powers and themes along the lines of what outsiders get. Among those would be a SMALL number of spell-like abilities.


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If the character is an NPC, absolutely. NPCs don't gain experience points. Whether or not an NPC levels up depends ENTIRELY on the GM's whim.

This answer completely discounts any connection between the game world and what the metagame constructions are supposed to represent.

As most people I know think that either the game world evolves from the rules, or the rules represent the game world occasionally imperfectly, and a very few think a mix (most who say a mix upon further investigation actually believe one or the other, usually the latter).

So this leads to my questions, A, how do you view the connection between the rules, the game world, and what the rules mean in the game world? and B, what exactly do you think levels represent in the game world?

Also, what is the yellow sign mentioned earlier?

Lastly, I will make and present to you a goblin named Senior Vorpal Kickasso, or similar, who has 1 level in lots of classes.


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If someone was making their own fantasy setting purely from scratch and you could only give them three pieces of basic world-building advice, what would they be? (If you'd absolutely have to give more than three, go ahead, three just seems like a good number for keeping it simple)


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TheAlicornSage wrote:

Lastly, I will make and present to you a goblin named Senior Vorpal Kickasso, or similar, who has 1 level in lots of classes.

You'll do who to the what, now?


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Señor Vorpal Kickass'o wrote:
TheAlicornSage wrote:

Lastly, I will make and present to you a goblin named Senior Vorpal Kickasso, or similar, who has 1 level in lots of classes.

You'll do who to the what, now?

Yea, I'll do it, and I can do it without a chicka over the n and without an apostrophe in preposterous places.

:)

On a more serious side, what would you think James of some multiclass rules that allowed you to take multiple classes each lvl? (probably slowing down ability choices or something)

PS do you catch the reference?

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