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James Jacobs wrote:
Cosmo's power to be at fault is vastly inflated by his internet cronies. So... no.

Ha! I just saw your answer to LazarX. Don't worry James you have your army of Jacobite fans as well. You need to ally with the Cult of Cosmo and bring down Bulmahn's fanatics. For therein lies madness.

James Jacobs wrote:
currently it's Shensen from the cover of Pathfinder #100.

Ha again!

So its good to be Paizo King ... er, Creative Director?


James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:

Steampunk/Alkenstar is quite popular on many Modules and APs wishlists, and RuleBook wishlists.

Doesn't fit in the Inner Sea / on Golarion, isn't the same as Doesn't fit in the rest of the Universe, or is it?

Alkenstar isn't really full-on steampunk in my opinion. I really quite love steampunk, and one of the things that is most compelling is how it can influence a world, not just a single remote speck of a world.

Currently, steampunk doesn't really fit well with Golarion. I don't see that changing significantly anytime soon.

Well, Alkenstar is a mix of ClockPunk, SteamPunk and a few others.

Still, many people want more rules/guideline for adventures in there (Alkenstar and Mana Wastes), other than "handwave it".

TV Tropes Warning: PunkPunk

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baron arem heshvaun wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
baron arem heshvaun wrote:

Which demon lords have at least some partial alliance with Lamashtu?

Maybe partial non aggression pact would be more fitting.

Besides Pazuzu, which demon lords oppose Lamashtu at any instance possible even when it may cost them resources?

She's the boss demon, so ALL of the demon lords have at least SOME alliance. Even her enemies like Pazuzu.

Whoa. That's rather surprising, giving Lamashtu theoretically nearly the same sway as Asmodeus. I realize they are both greater gods on Golarion, but I always assumed while there may be shifting alliances and deadly intrigue in the Nine Hells, there was outright endless give no quarter wars in the Abyss. I'll have to look at Lords of Chaos again.

That's really foreign idea for me.

In former iterations of the Abyss power politics the demon who dared to carry the mantle of "Prince of Demons" was always challenged outright, as I am sure you can attest to, after all you created a lot of later canon.

From 1st Edition and on, Demogorgon, Orcus and Graz'zt were locked in genocidal power struggle (there was some minor notes that Fraz-Urb’luu was taken out of this struggle after he lost his staff).

There were others in that rumble of a party as well. Yeenoghu and Baphomet were bitter rivals but the later was trapped by Orcus who had no alliance with the former (Throne of Bloodstone 1st Ed). Jubilex and Zuggtmoy fought over the same plane. You I believe made Dagon an "advisor" to Demogorgon. Iggwilv with all her plots. And Pazuzu laughing at all of them from the Abyssal skies above.

So in Golarion's Abyss, all the demon lords have some form of subservience and acquiescence to Lamashtu? Besides the fear of her coming for them of course.

On another note.

Where in Golarion would you find this James, and I assume it would be dedicated to...

The Abyss of Pathfinder is not the Abyss of D&D.

There's certainly still power struggles among the demon lords—Nocticula's been killing them left and right, for example, but in D&D, the "Boss Demon" was never on the same scale of power as a full-on deity like Lamashtu. That changes things right there.

And you'd find that type of thing in your other link in Cheliax or Nidal or Geb. Or maybe parts of Ustalav.

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baron arem heshvaun wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Cosmo's power to be at fault is vastly inflated by his internet cronies. So... no.

Ha! I just saw your answer to LazarX. Don't worry James you have your army of Jacobite fans as well. You need to ally with the Cult of Cosmo and bring down Bulmahn's fanatics. For therein lies madness.

James Jacobs wrote:
currently it's Shensen from the cover of Pathfinder #100.

Ha again!

So its good to be Paizo King ... er, Creative Director?

It can be... although at times it's pretty frustrating and being able to put your character on the cover and have Wayne paint her is more about a self-inflicted morale reward than it is anything else. ;-)

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Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:

Steampunk/Alkenstar is quite popular on many Modules and APs wishlists, and RuleBook wishlists.

Doesn't fit in the Inner Sea / on Golarion, isn't the same as Doesn't fit in the rest of the Universe, or is it?

Alkenstar isn't really full-on steampunk in my opinion. I really quite love steampunk, and one of the things that is most compelling is how it can influence a world, not just a single remote speck of a world.

Currently, steampunk doesn't really fit well with Golarion. I don't see that changing significantly anytime soon.

Well, Alkenstar is a mix of ClockPunk, SteamPunk and a few others.

Still, many people want more rules/guideline for adventures in there (Alkenstar and Mana Wastes), other than "handwave it".

TV Tropes Warning: PunkPunk

Again... please keep posts here to questions for me in order to keep the clutter down.


James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:


Alkenstar isn't really full-on steampunk in my opinion. I really quite love steampunk, and one of the things that is most compelling is how it can influence a world, not just a single remote speck of a world.

Currently, steampunk doesn't really fit well with Golarion. I don't see that changing significantly anytime soon.

Well, Alkenstar is a mix of ClockPunk, SteamPunk and a few others.

Still, many people want more rules/guideline for adventures in there (Alkenstar and Mana Wastes), other than "handwave it".

TV Tropes Warning: PunkPunk

Again... please keep posts here to questions for me in order to keep the clutter down.

Sorry...

1) How would you describe Alkenstar?

2) How would you describe the Mana Wastes in general?

3) How would you rate the areas in the Mana Wastes.

4) On a scale from 0 (not at all) to 11 (a lot), how much do you like that part of Golarion/the Inner Sea?

5) Have you, and/or Paizo, ever thought about making "Base Classes" specific/"exclusive" to the campaign setting?

6) Need more cats?

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Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:


Alkenstar isn't really full-on steampunk in my opinion. I really quite love steampunk, and one of the things that is most compelling is how it can influence a world, not just a single remote speck of a world.

Currently, steampunk doesn't really fit well with Golarion. I don't see that changing significantly anytime soon.

Well, Alkenstar is a mix of ClockPunk, SteamPunk and a few others.

Still, many people want more rules/guideline for adventures in there (Alkenstar and Mana Wastes), other than "handwave it".

TV Tropes Warning: PunkPunk

Again... please keep posts here to questions for me in order to keep the clutter down.

Sorry...

1) How would you describe Alkenstar?

2) How would you describe the Mana Wastes in general?

3) How would you rate the areas in the Mana Wastes.

4) On a scale from 0 (not at all) to 11 (a lot), how much do you like that part of Golarion/the Inner Sea?

5) Have you, and/or Paizo, ever thought about making "Base Classes" specific/"exclusive" to the campaign setting?

6) Need more cats?

1) As a bastion of civilization in a region where magic is unpredictable at best or dead at worst.

2) As a wasteland where magic is diseased and reality is in flux. For both of these... the section on the Mana Waste in the Inner Sea World Guide are pretty much how I'd describe them in 2,400 words.

3) Probably as a hard PG-13 or a soft R-rating, but that goes for all of Golarion.

4) 7

5) The base classes for Pathfinder are the same as "base classes for Golarion." The rulebook line exists specifically to support our Golarion stories. That's why we invented classes like the inquisitor and witch and magus and gunslinger and the rest in the first place.

6) Not sure. I'd rather not get more cats if they wouldn't play well with my current cat, but at the same time it'd be nice for Shimmy to have a cat friend to play with.


James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:


6) Need more cats?

6) Not sure. I'd rather not get more cats if they wouldn't play well with my current cat, but at the same time it'd be nice for Shimmy to have a cat friend to play with.

6.a) Robot Cat?

6.b) Plushy Cat?

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Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:


6) Need more cats?

6) Not sure. I'd rather not get more cats if they wouldn't play well with my current cat, but at the same time it'd be nice for Shimmy to have a cat friend to play with.

6.a) Robot Cat?

6.b) Plushy Cat?

Both are inferior to real-live-cat.


Were there other demonic gods before Lamashtu or was she the first? If there were, they're most certainly gone/dead now, but that doesn't really mean the couldn't exist in antiquity.

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Albatoonoe wrote:
Were there other demonic gods before Lamashtu or was she the first? If there were, they're most certainly gone/dead now, but that doesn't really mean the couldn't exist in antiquity.

Lamashtu was the first demon lord to ascend from demigod status to full deity status. No other demon lord has yet made this transition, but Nocticula is the closest and will likely be the next to do so.

Likewise, Asmodeus is the only archdevil to have made this transition, Sarenrae's the only empyreal lord to have done so, and Rovagug the only qlippoth lord to have done so.


James Jacobs wrote:
Albatoonoe wrote:
Were there other demonic gods before Lamashtu or was she the first? If there were, they're most certainly gone/dead now, but that doesn't really mean the couldn't exist in antiquity.

Lamashtu was the first demon lord to ascend from demigod status to full deity status. No other demon lord has yet made this transition, but Nocticula is the closest and will likely be the next to do so.

Likewise, Asmodeus is the only archdevil to have made this transition, Sarenrae's the only empyreal lord to have done so, and Rovagug the only qlippoth lord to have done so.

Was Asmodeus an empyreal lord before he feel?

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xavier c wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Albatoonoe wrote:
Were there other demonic gods before Lamashtu or was she the first? If there were, they're most certainly gone/dead now, but that doesn't really mean the couldn't exist in antiquity.

Lamashtu was the first demon lord to ascend from demigod status to full deity status. No other demon lord has yet made this transition, but Nocticula is the closest and will likely be the next to do so.

Likewise, Asmodeus is the only archdevil to have made this transition, Sarenrae's the only empyreal lord to have done so, and Rovagug the only qlippoth lord to have done so.

Was Asmodeus an empyreal lord before he feel?

Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.


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In case it's a fight, will you give enough forewarning that I'll have time to prepare the jello-pool?


James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Albatoonoe wrote:
Were there other demonic gods before Lamashtu or was she the first? If there were, they're most certainly gone/dead now, but that doesn't really mean the couldn't exist in antiquity.

Lamashtu was the first demon lord to ascend from demigod status to full deity status. No other demon lord has yet made this transition, but Nocticula is the closest and will likely be the next to do so.

Likewise, Asmodeus is the only archdevil to have made this transition, Sarenrae's the only empyreal lord to have done so, and Rovagug the only qlippoth lord to have done so.

Was Asmodeus an empyreal lord before he feel?
Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.

If I sent two sets of Socker Boppers would you guys livestream the fight?

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Kajehase wrote:
In case it's a fight, will you give enough forewarning that I'll have time to prepare the jello-pool?

Nope. On account I need to strike before Wes gets his sneak attack in.

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Tels wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Albatoonoe wrote:
Were there other demonic gods before Lamashtu or was she the first? If there were, they're most certainly gone/dead now, but that doesn't really mean the couldn't exist in antiquity.

Lamashtu was the first demon lord to ascend from demigod status to full deity status. No other demon lord has yet made this transition, but Nocticula is the closest and will likely be the next to do so.

Likewise, Asmodeus is the only archdevil to have made this transition, Sarenrae's the only empyreal lord to have done so, and Rovagug the only qlippoth lord to have done so.

Was Asmodeus an empyreal lord before he feel?
Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.
If I sent two sets of Socker Boppers would you guys livestream the fight?

No... but Jason and Stephen would.

Silver Crusade

1. You stated several pages back as an answer to a question that Devils do not follow a set promotion scheme (ala the old Planescape Faces of Evil supplement), but how then do devils go up in rank from lemures and the like? I'd imagine they have an actual scheme to it, or if you end up a barbazu are you forever stuck being one while someone else wins the Cornugon olympics?

2. There seem to have been a lot of reptilian elder species (serpentmen, the old troglodytes, etc), does their downfall have anything to do with the whole 'aztlanti are aboleth pawns' thing?

3. What areas on Golarian have the highest interest for/infestation of the Great Race of Yith?


James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Albatoonoe wrote:
Were there other demonic gods before Lamashtu or was she the first? If there were, they're most certainly gone/dead now, but that doesn't really mean the couldn't exist in antiquity.

Lamashtu was the first demon lord to ascend from demigod status to full deity status. No other demon lord has yet made this transition, but Nocticula is the closest and will likely be the next to do so.

Likewise, Asmodeus is the only archdevil to have made this transition, Sarenrae's the only empyreal lord to have done so, and Rovagug the only qlippoth lord to have done so.

Was Asmodeus an empyreal lord before he feel?
Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.

Which one of you has a +5 Vorpal Chainsaw ?

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Spook205 wrote:

1. You stated several pages back as an answer to a question that Devils do not follow a set promotion scheme (ala the old Planescape Faces of Evil supplement), but how then do devils go up in rank from lemures and the like? I'd imagine they have an actual scheme to it, or if you end up a barbazu are you forever stuck being one while someone else wins the Cornugon olympics?

2. There seem to have been a lot of reptilian elder species (serpentmen, the old troglodytes, etc), does their downfall have anything to do with the whole 'aztlanti are aboleth pawns' thing?

3. What areas on Golarian have the highest interest for/infestation of the Great Race of Yith?

1) Pit Fiends are one way. Also, you can skip ranks depending on the power of your law and evil. And of course there ARE some who just go one devil at a time. It's not the same way as D&D handled it though. By design, since we don't make D&D products anymore.

2) Nothing to do with that, really. More to do with it being a sort of metaphor for how dinosaurs once ruled but their time passed and now mammals (aka Humans) rule.

3) That's still secret. But it won't be forever.

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Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Albatoonoe wrote:
Were there other demonic gods before Lamashtu or was she the first? If there were, they're most certainly gone/dead now, but that doesn't really mean the couldn't exist in antiquity.

Lamashtu was the first demon lord to ascend from demigod status to full deity status. No other demon lord has yet made this transition, but Nocticula is the closest and will likely be the next to do so.

Likewise, Asmodeus is the only archdevil to have made this transition, Sarenrae's the only empyreal lord to have done so, and Rovagug the only qlippoth lord to have done so.

Was Asmodeus an empyreal lord before he feel?
Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.
Which one of you has a +5 Vorpal Chainsaw ?

Neither. That's a Bulmahn weapon.


James. What is your opinion on cologne?

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Icyshadow wrote:
James. What is your opinion on cologne?

Don't use it myself, but some of it smells pretty good.


I just started playing PF in Jan (after MANY years of playing other RPGs). One of the things I was most impressed with when I began exploring the game is the connection you have with Paizo fans/players/fellow adventurers, etc. Obviously, this method of contact did not exist back in the days of yore, but if you could have asked Gary Gygax or any other pioneers of the Game a question via this method in your youth, what would it have been?

Silver Crusade

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James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Albatoonoe wrote:
Were there other demonic gods before Lamashtu or was she the first? If there were, they're most certainly gone/dead now, but that doesn't really mean the couldn't exist in antiquity.

Lamashtu was the first demon lord to ascend from demigod status to full deity status. No other demon lord has yet made this transition, but Nocticula is the closest and will likely be the next to do so.

Likewise, Asmodeus is the only archdevil to have made this transition, Sarenrae's the only empyreal lord to have done so, and Rovagug the only qlippoth lord to have done so.

Was Asmodeus an empyreal lord before he feel?
Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.
Which one of you has a +5 Vorpal Chainsaw ?
Neither. That's a Bulmahn weapon.

What's a Jacobs weapon?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Albatoonoe wrote:
Were there other demonic gods before Lamashtu or was she the first? If there were, they're most certainly gone/dead now, but that doesn't really mean the couldn't exist in antiquity.

Lamashtu was the first demon lord to ascend from demigod status to full deity status. No other demon lord has yet made this transition, but Nocticula is the closest and will likely be the next to do so.

Likewise, Asmodeus is the only archdevil to have made this transition, Sarenrae's the only empyreal lord to have done so, and Rovagug the only qlippoth lord to have done so.

Was Asmodeus an empyreal lord before he feel?
Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.
Which one of you has a +5 Vorpal Chainsaw ?
Neither. That's a Bulmahn weapon.
What's a Jacobs weapon?

Starknife.

MAYBE a sawtooth sabre or a scimitar. Maybe.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

agirlisnotreadytobecomenoone wrote:
I just started playing PF in Jan (after MANY years of playing other RPGs). One of the things I was most impressed with when I began exploring the game is the connection you have with Paizo fans/players/fellow adventurers, etc. Obviously, this method of contact did not exist back in the days of yore, but if you could have asked Gary Gygax or any other pioneers of the Game a question via this method in your youth, what would it have been?

Can I come work for you?


James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.
Which one of you has a +5 Vorpal Chainsaw ?
Neither. That's a Bulmahn weapon.
What's a Jacobs weapon?

Starknife.

MAYBE a sawtooth sabre or a scimitar. Maybe.

1) What would be a Schneider weapon of choice?

2) Which one would (try to) Summon Cthulhu first?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.
Which one of you has a +5 Vorpal Chainsaw ?
Neither. That's a Bulmahn weapon.
What's a Jacobs weapon?

Starknife.

MAYBE a sawtooth sabre or a scimitar. Maybe.

1) What would be a Schneider weapon of choice?

2) Which one would (try to) Summon Cthulhu first?

1) Snark

2) Me

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.
Which one of you has a +5 Vorpal Chainsaw ?
Neither. That's a Bulmahn weapon.
What's a Jacobs weapon?

Starknife.

MAYBE a sawtooth sabre or a scimitar. Maybe.

1) What would be a Schneider weapon of choice?

2) Which one would (try to) Summon Cthulhu first?

1) Snark

2) Me

Back in the old days, were you summoning Tharizdun instead?

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Companion, Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Albatoonoe wrote:
Were there other demonic gods before Lamashtu or was she the first? If there were, they're most certainly gone/dead now, but that doesn't really mean the couldn't exist in antiquity.

Lamashtu was the first demon lord to ascend from demigod status to full deity status. No other demon lord has yet made this transition, but Nocticula is the closest and will likely be the next to do so.

Likewise, Asmodeus is the only archdevil to have made this transition, Sarenrae's the only empyreal lord to have done so, and Rovagug the only qlippoth lord to have done so.

Was Asmodeus an empyreal lord before he feel?
Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.
Which one of you has a +5 Vorpal Chainsaw ?
Neither. That's a Bulmahn weapon.
What's a Jacobs weapon?

Starknife.

MAYBE a sawtooth sabre or a scimitar. Maybe.

What about a terbutje lined with T-Rex teeth?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

LazarX wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.
Which one of you has a +5 Vorpal Chainsaw ?
Neither. That's a Bulmahn weapon.
What's a Jacobs weapon?

Starknife.

MAYBE a sawtooth sabre or a scimitar. Maybe.

1) What would be a Schneider weapon of choice?

2) Which one would (try to) Summon Cthulhu first?

1) Snark

2) Me

Back in the old days, were you summoning Tharizdun instead?

Cthulhu predates Tharizdun by many decades. Tharizdun's a whippersnapper.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Albatoonoe wrote:
Were there other demonic gods before Lamashtu or was she the first? If there were, they're most certainly gone/dead now, but that doesn't really mean the couldn't exist in antiquity.

Lamashtu was the first demon lord to ascend from demigod status to full deity status. No other demon lord has yet made this transition, but Nocticula is the closest and will likely be the next to do so.

Likewise, Asmodeus is the only archdevil to have made this transition, Sarenrae's the only empyreal lord to have done so, and Rovagug the only qlippoth lord to have done so.

Was Asmodeus an empyreal lord before he feel?
Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.
Which one of you has a +5 Vorpal Chainsaw ?
Neither. That's a Bulmahn weapon.
What's a Jacobs weapon?

Starknife.

MAYBE a sawtooth sabre or a scimitar. Maybe.

What about a terbutje lined with T-Rex teeth?

Already have those teeth. Why would I need something different to hold them?

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Companion, Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Albatoonoe wrote:
Were there other demonic gods before Lamashtu or was she the first? If there were, they're most certainly gone/dead now, but that doesn't really mean the couldn't exist in antiquity.

Lamashtu was the first demon lord to ascend from demigod status to full deity status. No other demon lord has yet made this transition, but Nocticula is the closest and will likely be the next to do so.

Likewise, Asmodeus is the only archdevil to have made this transition, Sarenrae's the only empyreal lord to have done so, and Rovagug the only qlippoth lord to have done so.

Was Asmodeus an empyreal lord before he feel?
Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.
Which one of you has a +5 Vorpal Chainsaw ?
Neither. That's a Bulmahn weapon.
What's a Jacobs weapon?

Starknife.

MAYBE a sawtooth sabre or a scimitar. Maybe.

What about a terbutje lined with T-Rex teeth?
Already have those teeth. Why would I need something different to hold them?

To arm your succubus cavalier?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Albatoonoe wrote:
Were there other demonic gods before Lamashtu or was she the first? If there were, they're most certainly gone/dead now, but that doesn't really mean the couldn't exist in antiquity.

Lamashtu was the first demon lord to ascend from demigod status to full deity status. No other demon lord has yet made this transition, but Nocticula is the closest and will likely be the next to do so.

Likewise, Asmodeus is the only archdevil to have made this transition, Sarenrae's the only empyreal lord to have done so, and Rovagug the only qlippoth lord to have done so.

Was Asmodeus an empyreal lord before he feel?
Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.
Which one of you has a +5 Vorpal Chainsaw ?
Neither. That's a Bulmahn weapon.
What's a Jacobs weapon?

Starknife.

MAYBE a sawtooth sabre or a scimitar. Maybe.

What about a terbutje lined with T-Rex teeth?
Already have those teeth. Why would I need something different to hold them?
To arm your succubus cavalier?

oooooooh


Which of the following routes of diabolic advancement would be more interesting to you? Do any of these look close to how it's intended to work?

Version A) The devil advances by gaining hit dice in its monster type as a prelude to a promotion. It can become a new form once it matches or exceeds that form's hit dice.

Version B) The devil gains class levels as a prelude to promotion, but loses the class levels after promotion (undoing that devil's hard work and forcing it to start over, which seems appropriate for Hell; it may also inspire a devil to decline a promotion, too - perhaps that erinyess would rather keep her inquisitor levels than become a handmaiden devil, after all. Though rare indeed is the devil that would decline to become a pit fiend...)

Version C) As B, but the devil keeps it class levels, making a promotion much more of a reward.

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James Jacobs wrote:
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Were there other demonic gods before Lamashtu or was she the first? If there were, they're most certainly gone/dead now, but that doesn't really mean the couldn't exist in antiquity.

Lamashtu was the first demon lord to ascend from demigod status to full deity status. No other demon lord has yet made this transition, but Nocticula is the closest and will likely be the next to do so.

Likewise, Asmodeus is the only archdevil to have made this transition, Sarenrae's the only empyreal lord to have done so, and Rovagug the only qlippoth lord to have done so.

Was Asmodeus an empyreal lord before he feel?
Unrevealed... but I find it very unlikely. Wes and I might need to have a discussion or a fight or something before that gets sorted out, I suppose.
Which one of you has a +5 Vorpal Chainsaw ?
Neither. That's a Bulmahn weapon.
What's a Jacobs weapon?

Starknife.

MAYBE a sawtooth sabre or a scimitar. Maybe.

What about a terbutje lined with T-Rex teeth?
Already have those teeth. Why would I need something different to hold them?
To arm your succubus cavalier?
oooooooh

Speaking of, what are the chances of seeing some more Succubi in roles outside the standard Bard/Rogue/Sorcerer spectrum? The Moonscar is one of my favorite modules.

Succubus with levels of Skald.....

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Rysky wrote:

Speaking of, what are the chances of seeing some more Succubi in roles outside the standard Bard/Rogue/Sorcerer spectrum? The Moonscar is one of my favorite modules.

We'll see. Turns out, we tend to prefer to have monsters play to their strengths when taking class levels.

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Zhangar wrote:

Which of the following routes of diabolic advancement would be more interesting to you? Do any of these look close to how it's intended to work?

Version A) The devil advances by gaining hit dice in its monster type as a prelude to a promotion. It can become a new form once it matches or exceeds that form's hit dice.

Version B) The devil gains class levels as a prelude to promotion, but loses the class levels after promotion (undoing that devil's hard work and forcing it to start over, which seems appropriate for Hell; it may also inspire a devil to decline a promotion, too - perhaps that erinyess would rather keep her inquisitor levels than become a handmaiden devil, after all. Though rare indeed is the devil that would decline to become a pit fiend...)

Version C) As B, but the devil keeps it class levels, making a promotion much more of a reward.

The devil advances in sudden jumps, gaining its additional HD in one lump sum when it's transformed. A devil that advances via HD or class levels is more or less "locking itself in" to that particular role; it's gaining power not by being "promoted" to more powerful devil ranks, but taking matters into its own hands and gaining power for itself.


Would characters or NPCs who view the undead as abominations, such as worshippers of Pharasma consider a Spiritualist and his Phantom to be enemies? (I understand that the Phantom is an outsider and not an undead, but it is still the spirit of a dead person, isn't it?)

If it wanted to, could a Phantom be raised from the dead, or eventually decide its work was done and voluntarily go on to the afterlife?

If it did, would the Spiritualist call forth a new Phantom, or just lose all Spiritualist powers?

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James would have a conceptual problem with an Aasimar having the physical features of its celestial parent rather than its human parent.

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Would characters or NPCs who view the undead as abominations, such as worshippers of Pharasma consider a Spiritualist and his Phantom to be enemies? (I understand that the Phantom is an outsider and not an undead, but it is still the spirit of a dead person, isn't it?)

If it wanted to, could a Phantom be raised from the dead, or eventually decide its work was done and voluntarily go on to the afterlife?

If it did, would the Spiritualist call forth a new Phantom, or just lose all Spiritualist powers?

I suspect so, in the same way paladins would likely view a worshiper of Calistria as a likely enemy. The dynamics of a PC group would be one place where such an unusual mix of characters could be found working together, but overall, I suspect there's not a lot of spiritualists working with Pharasmins out there.

I've not actually read the rules for a spiritualist, and the book will be out soon enough so I hope it does cover what happens if a phantom gets resurrected.

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James would have a conceptual problem with an Aasimar having the physical features of its celestial parent rather than its human parent.

That's kinda the whole point of an aasimar—they have physical features that evoke their celestial lineage.

But remember... celestials don't directly cause aasimars. They cause half-celestials, who in turn can cause aasimars. Just as a half-celestial shouldn't have ALL of the celestial parent's features, the aasimar shouldn't have ALL of the half-celestial parent's features.

So... an aasimar who looks entirely like, say, a planetar, is kinda missing the point of being an aasiamr. Pick 1 or 2 or 3 features and go with those, not all of them.


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I suspect so, in the same way paladins would likely view a worshiper of Calistria as a likely enemy. The dynamics of a PC group would be one place where such an unusual mix of characters could be found working together, but overall, I suspect there's not a lot of spiritualists working with Pharasmins out there.

I've not actually read the rules for a spiritualist, and the book will be out soon enough so I hope it does cover what happens if a phantom gets resurrected.

Thank you for the reply, Mr. Jacobs! I'm really looking forward to the release of Occult Adventures. ^_^


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James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:

Speaking of, what are the chances of seeing some more Succubi in roles outside the standard Bard/Rogue/Sorcerer spectrum? The Moonscar is one of my favorite modules.

We'll see. Turns out, we tend to prefer to have monsters play to their strengths when taking class levels.

Succubi Oracles, cursed with awesome (kinda).

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Again... let's keep things to questions, folks. Just trying to keep the thread focused; thanks!


James Jacobs wrote:
Again... let's keep things to questions, folks. Just trying to keep the thread focused; thanks!

Sorry, I pick the wrong ponctuation sometime.

James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:

Speaking of, what are the chances of seeing some more Succubi in roles outside the standard Bard/Rogue/Sorcerer spectrum? The Moonscar is one of my favorite modules.

We'll see. Turns out, we tend to prefer to have monsters play to their strengths when taking class levels.

Succubi Oracles, cursed with awesome (kinda)? (in the same idea as the Harpy Oracle in Jade Regent)

Succubi Ninja?

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Are you excited for the progress the Blue Rose kickstarter's making? They just got Crystal's stretch goal unlocked! :)

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Gars DarkLover wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Again... let's keep things to questions, folks. Just trying to keep the thread focused; thanks!

Sorry, I pick the wrong ponctuation sometime.

James Jacobs wrote:
Rysky wrote:

Speaking of, what are the chances of seeing some more Succubi in roles outside the standard Bard/Rogue/Sorcerer spectrum? The Moonscar is one of my favorite modules.

We'll see. Turns out, we tend to prefer to have monsters play to their strengths when taking class levels.

Succubi Oracles, cursed with awesome (kinda)? (in the same idea as the Harpy Oracle in Jade Regent)

Succubi Ninja?

Pretty much any class combo is potentially interesting for any creature, frankly... it all depends on how well you write up the creature's personality and description, in my opinion, when determining if it's a cool idea or not.

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Are you excited for the progress the Blue Rose kickstarter's making? They just got Crystal's stretch goal unlocked! :)

Not excited, per se, but happy for them. And for me, since I threw in for the special edition version on day one.

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