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Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
I don't know if you're the best person to ask about Kenabres, but what "druidic path" if you will, does the druid Crocris, who maintains Truestone Park, follow? Is he a Green Faither? A deity-worshiping druid? Something else entirely?

My guess would be the Green Faith.

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thegreenteagamer wrote:

1. Including the upcoming Occult classes, what are your favorite classes out of the classes released since the beginning, in order by theme?

2. How about by mechanics?

3. Did I even have a chance of getting the whole list in order either time? I thought not, so I didn't bother to ask for ALL of them in order.

4. So, since I hear Golarion folk went to Earth in Rasputin must die, and that Baba Yaga is from Earth originally, will we ever have adventures where Earthlings go to Golarion?

5. Would you use new classes for Earthlings? If so, what kinds?

6. What is the group name for people from Golarion? You know, like how people from Earth are Earthlings?

7. Given that on Golarion the Aboleths created humans, and we evolved naturally on Earth, does that mean Aboleths had knowledge of Earth humans and used them as a pattern or reference for their creation on Golarion? Did they port a handful over and start a colony? Did they just somehow randomly create the exact same species? Or are Golarion humans somehow different than Earthlings?

1) There's over 30 classes, so I'm not gonna rank them all. I'll say that my favorites are bard, cleric, rogue, and swashbuckler, in that order. Paladin is my least favorite.

2) Doesn't make a difference.

3) Nope.

4) Probably not.

5) Nope; they'd use the non caster classes.

6) Can't remember... and not eve sure we've decided. Probably "Golarians." Dunno. It's not a word we need much.

7) I don't believe we've actually said "Aboleths created humans" on Golarion. They've certainly guided and influenced and manipulated humanity. In any event, the original source of humanity, be it from Golarion or Earth or Androffa or somewhere else is unlikely to ever be said in stone in our products.

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Because Fey come from the First World, which exists before and between our own world, would it be more proper to characterize fey as 'insiders' instead of outsiders? :)

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Aelryinth wrote:

Because Fey come from the First World, which exists before and between our own world, would it be more proper to characterize fey as 'insiders' instead of outsiders? :)

==Aelryinth

Bleh.


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What alignment is Batman, as an amalgamation of his different representations in all media?


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1. When it comes to outsiders and gender is it possible for a person to swap genders when becoming a fiend. In hell the soul is basically destroyed and rebuilt so it's nothing like it once was, would an originally male soul become a female Erinyes. In the abyss would an originally female soul become a incubus because that suited that sins more.

2. Can Devils change there gender, would it be as simple as purchasing a elixir of sex shifting or would it be harder then that.

3. Are there any female pit fiends in Hell?

4. How do devil's talk, personally I imagined most of them spoke incredibly polity, even the Erinyes as she rends the skin from your flesh.


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Well then which Paizo staff member(s) is most interested in...
1)Garund?

2)Azlant?

3)Sarusan?

4)Tian Xia?

5)Casmaron?

6)Hermia?

7)Castrovel?

8)Akiton?

9)Aucturn?

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If there was a Miss Golarion pageant, who do you think would win and why?


In Pathfinder, all physical attribute bonuses exist as belts, and all mental attribute bonuses as headbands. However, there's no actual rule in the rulebook that actually requires it be that way.

Is not listing it explicitly a decision, or a handwave saying "they'll understand"? And if the latter, is there any chance that could be added to a FAQ or errata?

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As I am in the middle of binge watching all 5 seasons of Fringe, I wonder if you ever watched it, and if so, your thoughts?


What would happen to the Paizoans if, hypothetically, I released Cosmo from his binding contract?

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thegreenteagamer wrote:
What alignment is Batman, as an amalgamation of his different representations in all media?

If anything could derail this thread, this question will.

Prove me wrong, Internet!

I'll start by not answering. And let's not have anyone else ask this either. On to less destructive questions! ;-)

Spoiler:
chaotic good

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The Gula Path wrote:

1. When it comes to outsiders and gender is it possible for a person to swap genders when becoming a fiend. In hell the soul is basically destroyed and rebuilt so it's nothing like it once was, would an originally male soul become a female Erinyes. In the abyss would an originally female soul become a incubus because that suited that sins more.

2. Can Devils change there gender, would it be as simple as purchasing a elixir of sex shifting or would it be harder then that.

3. Are there any female pit fiends in Hell?

4. How do devil's talk, personally I imagined most of them spoke incredibly polity, even the Erinyes as she rends the skin from your flesh.

1) Yes, absolutely. That sort of change is a drop in the bucket compared, say to the transformation from human to Abyssal larva to glabrezu.

2) They could, but I don't think many, if any, would want to. Outsiders are pretty rigid in their ways of thought, particularly lawful ones. It's possible though.

3) Unrevealed.

4) Depends on the devil, but most of them would speak in a cadence akin to the slimiest, skeeziest, most sinister politician/lawyer you can imagine.

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Dragon78 wrote:

Well then which Paizo staff member(s) is most interested in...

1)Garund?

2)Azlant?

3)Sarusan?

4)Tian Xia?

5)Casmaron?

6)Hermia?

7)Castrovel?

8)Akiton?

9)Aucturn?

1) Me

2) Erik Mona

3) No one

4) Me

5) Sutter and Rob

6) Sutter

7) Erik and Sutter

8) Erik and Sutter

9) Sutter

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Alexander Augunas wrote:
If there was a Miss Golarion pageant, who do you think would win and why?

Shensen or Ameiko, 'cause they're my characters and I'm the creative director and I'd rig the contest during development.

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RonarsCorruption wrote:

In Pathfinder, all physical attribute bonuses exist as belts, and all mental attribute bonuses as headbands. However, there's no actual rule in the rulebook that actually requires it be that way.

Is not listing it explicitly a decision, or a handwave saying "they'll understand"? And if the latter, is there any chance that could be added to a FAQ or errata?

This doesn't need a FAQ, really. It is what it is. If you want to create a belt of wisdom or a ring of intelligence or a helm of dexterity type thing... go for it. We have a LOT of internal style decisions in how we present our rules, and we don't make all of them public because it's not all that important. The rules are full enough already without clarifying these things to such an excruciating level of detail.

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Cylyria wrote:
As I am in the middle of binge watching all 5 seasons of Fringe, I wonder if you ever watched it, and if so, your thoughts?

I love the show, but I never finished it. I have 5 or 6 episodes in the last season that I have to watch still. But yeah, great show.

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The Doomkitten wrote:
What would happen to the Paizoans if, hypothetically, I released Cosmo from his binding contract?

A new Cosmo would be selected from the remaining supplicants. AKA it's not a contract that binds Cosmo, it's a law of the cosmos that predates language or thought or being. Hence the name.


James Jacobs wrote:
Alexander Augunas wrote:
If there was a Miss Golarion pageant, who do you think would win and why?
Shensen or Ameiko, 'cause they're my characters and I'm the creative director and I'd rig the contest during development.

Bias'd and proud of it! :P

Do you guys have a local Easter Egg hunt, like, over the radio? My local radio station does a $2,000 Easter Egg hunt ever year giving clues over the radio or through local businesses. Whomever finds the egg (and it's always well hidden) wins $2,000.

Do you guys have anything like that in your area?

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What's a good way to be less indecisive?

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Tels wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Alexander Augunas wrote:
If there was a Miss Golarion pageant, who do you think would win and why?
Shensen or Ameiko, 'cause they're my characters and I'm the creative director and I'd rig the contest during development.

Bias'd and proud of it! :P

Do you guys have a local Easter Egg hunt, like, over the radio? My local radio station does a $2,000 Easter Egg hunt ever year giving clues over the radio or through local businesses. Whomever finds the egg (and it's always well hidden) wins $2,000.

Do you guys have anything like that in your area?

Not that I know of. Easter is pretty low on my awareness radar, as are local radio stations. I assume there IS something, but I was playing video games and watching season 3 of Homeland.

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Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
What's a good way to be less indecisive?

Today.


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Doing a search of this thread, I saw some old responses that tentatively said Queen Abrogail is about 24 years old (actually, 22 in a post from 2 years ago) and came to the throne around 4707. Are those still good estimates?

What relationship was she to her predecessor, King Infrexus?

Does Cheliax have an official line of succession to the throne? It seems like, in the Thrune era at least, new rulers take the throne by stepping over the corpses of their murdered predecessors. But surely a lawful evil regime like the Thrunes would at least have a pretense at a legal order of succession?

Did Abrogail become queen because she was the designated successor, or did she win a power struggle?

Also... spoiler for Reign of Winter...

Spoiler:
Who is the canonical queen of Irrisen now (4715)? I realize the adventure paths are not automatically canon because of the wide variety of possible outcomes... but Baba Yaga was due to return in 4713, so Elvanna can't still be queen unless she managed to defeat Baba Yaga.

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James Jacobs wrote:
Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
What's a good way to be less indecisive?
Today.

Uh...that doesn't exactly help me figure out what class to play in games so I can actually get past the character creation screen...what do you mean today? *blushes embarrassingly*

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Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
What's a good way to be less indecisive?
Today.
Uh...that doesn't exactly help me figure out what class to play in games so I can actually get past the character creation screen...what do you mean today? *blushes embarrassingly*

Oh... I read that as "Good day" to be less indecisive.

A good way to be less indecisive? dunno... maybe make a table or chart and then roll dice to decide for you?

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Andrew Crossett wrote:

Doing a search of this thread, I saw some old responses that tentatively said Queen Abrogail is about 24 years old (actually, 22 in a post from 2 years ago) and came to the throne around 4707. Are those still good estimates?

What relationship was she to her predecessor, King Infrexus?

Does Cheliax have an official line of succession to the throne? It seems like, in the Thrune era at least, new rulers take the throne by stepping over the corpses of their murdered predecessors. But surely a lawful evil regime like the Thrunes would at least have a pretense at a legal order of succession?

Did Abrogail become queen because she was the designated successor, or did she win a power struggle?

Also... spoiler for Reign of Winter...

Spoiler:
Who is the canonical queen of Irrisen now (4715)? I realize the adventure paths are not automatically canon because of the wide variety of possible outcomes... but Baba Yaga was due to return in 4713, so Elvanna can't still be queen unless she managed to defeat Baba Yaga.

Yes, she's in her mid 20s.

There's not much said about her relationship with her predecessor, but obviously she's better than he ever was. The history bears that out. What increasingly little of it remains in print.

We may say more about her rise to power some day, but for now, it's still undetermined.

As for Reign of Winter...

Spoiler:
Whoever you want, as determined by the results of your Reign of Winter game. I suspect we won't address this issue in print.


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Hey James,

I know you don't usually read fantasy novels...but do you read the Pathfinder Tales Novels?

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John Kretzer wrote:

Hey James,

I know you don't usually read fantasy novels...but do you read the Pathfinder Tales Novels?

I've read a few, but mostly just those that directly impact Adventure Paths I'm working on. So... things like Blood of the City, the Worldwound Gambit, and King of Chaos.

The Exchange

Hey James,

I'm having some confusion over the rules and a previous comment you made. I was wondering if you could make things clear for us at home.

Years ago Soporific Lotus wrote:
"Can a bardic masterpiece be used while maintaining a bardic performance such as inspire courage? Masterpieces obviously consume rounds of performance but its not clear to me if they actually count as bardic performances."

This question had the unfortunate problem of having a question followed by a statement to the contrary of the question, namely "do bardic masterpieces count as bardic performances."

You responded with a simple "Yes."

Were you saying that Bardic Masterpieces are not Bardic Performances or that Bardic Masterpieces are bardic performances?

This would clear up a lot of questions for me in a simple sentence.

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Alexander Nudd wrote:

Hey James,

I'm having some confusion over the rules and a previous comment you made. I was wondering if you could make things clear for us at home.

Years ago Soporific Lotus wrote:
"Can a bardic masterpiece be used while maintaining a bardic performance such as inspire courage? Masterpieces obviously consume rounds of performance but its not clear to me if they actually count as bardic performances."

This question had the unfortunate problem of having a question followed by a statement to the contrary of the question, namely "do bardic masterpieces count as bardic performances."

You responded with a simple "Yes."

Were you saying that Bardic Masterpieces are not Bardic Performances or that Bardic Masterpieces are bardic performances?

This would clear up a lot of questions for me in a simple sentence.

Bardic masterpieces are performances.

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Thanks! You're the best.


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1)Wow, nobody interested in Sarusan, did there used to be?

2)Well then wich Paizo staff members are most interested in...

A)Dimension of Dreams?

B)Dimension of Time?

C)Positive Energy Plane?

D)Verces?

E)Golarion's Oceans?

F)The First World?

G)Bretheda(and it's moons)?

H)Liavara(and it's moons)?

I)The Darklands?

3)Is there any info on Peridot Isle/Crystilan(Varisia)?

4)Are any of these demiplanes(The Circles Between, Crypt of the Dying Sun, The Fleshwarren, Freehold of the Rogue Angel, The Lost, The Machine Armory, Mnemovore, and The Prison of the Laughing Fiend) from the great beyond book still canon?

Shadow Lodge

I asked this question in the rules thread Here but got no responses

the basis of the question is - can a Spirit guide Oracle Choose the same Wandering Spirit as the mystery they selected (e.g. Life Oracle Choosing Life wandering Spirit)

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What Sarkorian clan was Areelu Vorlesh born into? I imagine her power didn't manifest in childhood like a sorcerer's might since as a witch she'd had to have had the knowledge of demons in order to bargain with one so she could get it as a patron who'd grant her witch powers. I know she uses the Widowknife Clanhold as her base and research facility in the Worldwound. Is this because she WAS a Widowknife before she got carted off to Threshold? Or am I reading too much into that and she's of a different clan entirely?

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James Jacobs wrote:
Alexander Nudd wrote:

Hey James,

I'm having some confusion over the rules and a previous comment you made. I was wondering if you could make things clear for us at home.

Years ago Soporific Lotus wrote:
"Can a bardic masterpiece be used while maintaining a bardic performance such as inspire courage? Masterpieces obviously consume rounds of performance but its not clear to me if they actually count as bardic performances."

This question had the unfortunate problem of having a question followed by a statement to the contrary of the question, namely "do bardic masterpieces count as bardic performances."

You responded with a simple "Yes."

Were you saying that Bardic Masterpieces are not Bardic Performances or that Bardic Masterpieces are bardic performances?

This would clear up a lot of questions for me in a simple sentence.

Bardic masterpieces are performances.

Quick follow up question: since you can only have one bardic performance active at one time, would starting inspire courage end masterpieces with long term effects like triple time? Or is this not an issue since the rounds for the masterpiece have already been expended?


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Hey James,

Will the Inner Sea Races fix the problem with the Elves of Kyonin that you have stated you have had? It seems like the perfect place to do so

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1) What deities would go in for the Seven Plagues of Egypt-type stuff? Fire from the skies, plagues, that sort of thing. Ideally not evil deities, who would presumably do it for its own sake; I'm looking for more of a Wrath of God feel.

2) Would this violate the "unwritten rules" surrounding deific interference in the Material Plane?

3) If so, would having a "Moses", e.g. a powerful cleric on-site, be their method? Would this violate the "rules"?

4) If the Worldwound situation got bad enough (say, a failure at the eleventh hour), would Iomedae step in to do the job herself? Would she do so even if this broke a "divine law"?

Thank you! :)


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James, in the case of an NPC possessing item creation feats, do you prefer to figure in their eligible equipment at half price? Wands for Craft Wands, weapons, armor, and shields for Craft Magic Arms and Armor, etc? Or should those NPCs use the same value their level warrants for gear?

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As always, thanks for the answers. They're very elucidating. :D

1.) What alignment would you attribute to a deity whose portfolio is the total annihilation of a set of irredeemably evil creatures? Say a deity who destroys a parasitic race that feeds only on the brains of sentient beings and may not be utilized officially because of copyright issues.

2.) What is Golarian's explanation for having so many abandoned subterranean complexes? Ancient societies? Dwarves?

3.) Do you think that situations where adventurers have to register (ala Cormyr in Forgotten Realms) or ones where they have to fill out claims or file documentation before being able to do delving are detrimental to the game, or good means of presenting a world that's used to dealing with this sort of thing?

And lastly..

4.) A scenario for you!
The party encounters a choice. The choice is for the party (composed of players A, B, C, and D) to either unify to serve NPC N, or alternatively, to oppose his actions. The party becomes split with A and D supporting N, and B and C strenuously opposing him. And with none of the party members wishing to split the party as it necessitates becoming enemies.
Out of character, the players are not willing to budge on their positions.
What do you, as the DM, do?

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Dragon78 wrote:

1)Wow, nobody interested in Sarusan, did there used to be?

2)Well then wich Paizo staff members are most interested in...

A)Dimension of Dreams?

B)Dimension of Time?

C)Positive Energy Plane?

D)Verces?

E)Golarion's Oceans?

F)The First World?

G)Bretheda(and it's moons)?

H)Liavara(and it's moons)?

I)The Darklands?

3)Is there any info on Peridot Isle/Crystilan(Varisia)?

4)Are any of these demiplanes(The Circles Between, Crypt of the Dying Sun, The Fleshwarren, Freehold of the Rogue Angel, The Lost, The Machine Armory, Mnemovore, and The Prison of the Laughing Fiend) from the great beyond book still canon?

1) There's plenty of interest in Sarusan here, but it's not anyone's "pet" country, which is more or less what you asked. Sarusan is really intentionally left as a "Here there be dragons" blank part of the map so far. We have very little intention of developing it much more than that any time soon. If ever.

2a) Me.

2b) No one, really.

2c) No one really.

2d) Sutter.

2e) Adam and I.

2f) Sutter

2g) Sutter

2h) Sutter

2i) Me

3) Not much yet.

4) All of them are.

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Wraith235 wrote:

I asked this question in the rules thread Here but got no responses

the basis of the question is - can a Spirit guide Oracle Choose the same Wandering Spirit as the mystery they selected (e.g. Life Oracle Choosing Life wandering Spirit)

The rules forums are the right place to ask those questions. Sorry if no one's responded to that question, but that's kinda out of my sphere of influence. Further, when I do answer rules questions here, they tend to cause schisms in the fan base and here at Paizo that I'd rather avoid.

In the end, your GM should be able to answer this question for you, rendering what we say here on these forums moot.

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Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
What Sarkorian clan was Areelu Vorlesh born into? I imagine her power didn't manifest in childhood like a sorcerer's might since as a witch she'd had to have had the knowledge of demons in order to bargain with one so she could get it as a patron who'd grant her witch powers. I know she uses the Widowknife Clanhold as her base and research facility in the Worldwound. Is this because she WAS a Widowknife before she got carted off to Threshold? Or am I reading too much into that and she's of a different clan entirely?

Unrevealed, and not all that important. I suspect whatever clan it was is now over a hundred years extinct.

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sowhereaminow wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Alexander Nudd wrote:

Hey James,

I'm having some confusion over the rules and a previous comment you made. I was wondering if you could make things clear for us at home.

Years ago Soporific Lotus wrote:
"Can a bardic masterpiece be used while maintaining a bardic performance such as inspire courage? Masterpieces obviously consume rounds of performance but its not clear to me if they actually count as bardic performances."

This question had the unfortunate problem of having a question followed by a statement to the contrary of the question, namely "do bardic masterpieces count as bardic performances."

You responded with a simple "Yes."

Were you saying that Bardic Masterpieces are not Bardic Performances or that Bardic Masterpieces are bardic performances?

This would clear up a lot of questions for me in a simple sentence.

Bardic masterpieces are performances.
Quick follow up question: since you can only have one bardic performance active at one time, would starting inspire courage end masterpieces with long term effects like triple time? Or is this not an issue since the rounds for the masterpiece have already been expended?

You're treading into territory that is better covered over in the rules forums, frankly. I'd re-ask your question there so it can get tagged with a FAQ request.

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John Kretzer wrote:

Hey James,

Will the Inner Sea Races fix the problem with the Elves of Kyonin that you have stated you have had? It seems like the perfect place to do so

I hope so, but RPG customers are pretty resistant to change and cling hard to previous printings and incarnations of things like this. It's a step in the right direction, but whether or not folks will be willing to let go of prejudices engendered by D&D or Tolkein or whatever... only time will tell.

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Kalindlara wrote:

1) What deities would go in for the Seven Plagues of Egypt-type stuff? Fire from the skies, plagues, that sort of thing. Ideally not evil deities, who would presumably do it for its own sake; I'm looking for more of a Wrath of God feel.

2) Would this violate the "unwritten rules" surrounding deific interference in the Material Plane?

3) If so, would having a "Moses", e.g. a powerful cleric on-site, be their method? Would this violate the "rules"?

4) If the Worldwound situation got bad enough (say, a failure at the eleventh hour), would Iomedae step in to do the job herself? Would she do so even if this broke a "divine law"?

Thank you! :)

1) Depending on the nation and setting, most of them would. Sarenrae even; she did pretty much smite Ninshabur... although she's mellowed out a lot since then. I could see Iomedae or Torag doing something like this to an evil nation. Or Nethys, for that matter. Rovagug for sure. Depending on the story you want to tell, you could get most anything going. That said, we tend to avoid these stories, or if we DO tell them, they take place in a historical context, as something the gods did long ago but have not done so again anytime relatively soon.

2) It very easily could, which is another reason why the gods did it more often long ago and not so much today.

3) Clerics or other powerful worshipers are the preferred methods by which the gods impact and influence the mortal realm. This doesn't break those "rules" at all... in fact, it's the way the rules encourage the gods to move in this realm.

4) Probably not. Desna might, if she had much more of a stake in the region, but not a lawful deity. The way Iomedae interacts with this is to invest PCs or other mighty heroes with power, as detailed in "Wrath of the Righteous."

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Nargemn wrote:
James, in the case of an NPC possessing item creation feats, do you prefer to figure in their eligible equipment at half price? Wands for Craft Wands, weapons, armor, and shields for Craft Magic Arms and Armor, etc? Or should those NPCs use the same value their level warrants for gear?

I always grant them items at half-price if they possess the crafting feats; this is often the ONLY WAY the game legally allows us to give some of the more interesting and flavorful magic items into the hands of NPCs, who usually have far too little gp budget to afford anything, especially since they need to use some of those items to bolster their stats up to a point where they actually work for the CR they're supposed to be at.

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Spook205 wrote:

As always, thanks for the answers. They're very elucidating. :D

1.) What alignment would you attribute to a deity whose portfolio is the total annihilation of a set of irredeemably evil creatures? Say a deity who destroys a parasitic race that feeds only on the brains of sentient beings and may not be utilized officially because of copyright issues.

2.) What is Golarian's explanation for having so many abandoned subterranean complexes? Ancient societies? Dwarves?

3.) Do you think that situations where adventurers have to register (ala Cormyr in Forgotten Realms) or ones where they have to fill out claims or file documentation before being able to do delving are detrimental to the game, or good means of presenting a world that's used to dealing with this sort of thing?

And lastly..

4.) A scenario for you!
The party encounters a choice. The choice is for the party (composed of players A, B, C, and D) to either unify to serve NPC N, or alternatively, to oppose his actions. The party becomes split with A and D supporting N, and B and C strenuously opposing him. And with none of the party members wishing to split the party as it necessitates becoming enemies.
Out of character, the players are not willing to budge on their positions.
What do you, as the DM, do?

1) Any alignment works. And in fact, the 9 alignments suggest 9 different reasons and personalities for those deities.

2) The fact that it's got magic + over ten thousand years of various layers of civilizations.

3) That starts feeling too silly for me for the most part. I prefer things like the Pathfinder Society, where you don't have to sign up just to adventure, but that if you do sign up you get a bonus. The carrot lure instead of the stick, in other words. Reward the PCs for joining, don't punish them for not wanting to join.

4) As a GM, I let them play things out, and if it takes too long for them to come to terms, I have the NPC or other events in world force their hand by resolving the situation in a way that's detrimental to the PCs, as a way to show them that their lack of working as a team hurt them in the end.


James, here's a scenario for you:

Liz walks into the room, looking very angry, and you can feel a burning sensation in your pocket. What do you do?


Wow, finally got to the end of this thread. Oh, yeah, a question.

Are there cookies? :-)


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Hi James,

Have you been playing Pillars of Eternity? And if so, what race/class combination are you playing?

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