[Adamant] Post-Apocalypse Pathfinder! Warlords Of The Apocalypse Now Pre-Ordering


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Shadow Lodge

Yeah. For example, I backed the Kickstarter for the Trailblazer project Patron of the Monstrous Arts. If I had known that two years later, I still wouldn't have the book, I might not have bothered.

Sovereign Court

I had emailed Gareth earlier in the week. He got back to me within a day and repeated the end of March/early April release.

It's been a log wait (I pre-ordered back in September 2010) but I am still willing to wait a bit longer.


Phalazar wrote:

I had emailed Gareth earlier in the week. He got back to me within a day and repeated the end of March/early April release.

It's been a log wait (I pre-ordered back in September 2010) but I am still willing to wait a bit longer.

Man I hope this is true I will buy it that day

The Exchange

Sasha Greymantle wrote:
Not to burst anyone bubble but its a dead horse. Several people that post here are facebook friends of mine. We have asked politely and professionally the status of this game. Admant has removed all and every post that we have made asking the status of this game. Nothing not a word of progress or demise. Unless someone from Adamant says otherwise directly and provides a timetable with in reason. Its a dead issue in my opinion. I got burned by Rite Publishing I dont plan on getting burned by anyone else with these "kick Start" projects.

I'm not a huge fan of Gareth, nor even of Adamant. I just happen to be a HUGE fan of post-apocalyptic settings.

That said, this is absolutely untrue. None of the posts many of us, including myself have posted were removed. Even when they derailed conversations of other products. We didn't get a lot of response until fairly recently, but the current expected release date is March/April, so hopefully we will hear something more concrete in the next few weeks.


Great to hear cant wait

Scarab Sages

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Steven D. Russell of Rite Publishing First and formost I should have explained my frustration that your company has resolved. There for Im sorry if you thought I was attacking you or Rite publishing. In my post it looks like that too for that Im sorry.

I rushed to post my fustration at what is going on with Adamant. I was using my only previous experience with a kick start project. Which was Jade Oath.

To the Game community Im sorry that I mislead or did not explain my whole problem or explaination it was a poor post to say the least.

Everything that Steven said was true. He did reply in a timely and professional mannor Thank you.

All I had prior to the emails to and from steven was nothing.

The problem that I personally had was that there was little or no update posted on the web site about the delay. The real world gets in the way of everything. My feelings was prior to my emailing Rite Publishing was that I had no clue what was going on. It was my fault that I didnt email them earlier or get more involved but my real life got in the way.

Another poster said it best "keep us in the loop" not weekly or every month but it would be nice to know whats going on.

@Wolfthulhu yes my posts on facebook have been removed or ignored. They were as polite as possible.

To all I hope this explains my fustration about Adamant in particular and Kick-starters in general

The Exchange

Sasha Greymantle wrote:
@Wolfthulhu yes my posts on facebook have been removed or ignored. They were as polite as possible.

All I can say to that is none of the posts made by me or my friends have been deleted. And they were not as polite as possible.


Wolfthulhu wrote:
Sasha Greymantle wrote:
@Wolfthulhu yes my posts on facebook have been removed or ignored. They were as polite as possible.
All I can say to that is none of the posts made by me or my friends have been deleted. And they were not as polite as possible.

Oh, I know Sasha has seen the posts you're referencing.

Dreamscarred Press

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Sasha Greymantle wrote:
To all I hope this explains my fustration about Adamant in particular and Kick-starters in general

I would just like to say that I appreciate the candidness and lack of attitude that both Sasha and Steve have shown in this thread. Owning up to mistakes and working to correct them is something I very much respect and I think it's a sign of character to be willing to do it.


Accourding to there facebook page this book is set for late this month early next month release

Sczarni

Bump...any further info?

I didn't see anything on their FB page or Adamants home site.

Grand Lodge

I didn't pre-order because of the delays and lack of information. I would STILL by this right now if it became available. Dead tree and digital.

That being said I think this is vaporware. It is not even listed on their site.

SM

Sovereign Court

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psionichamster wrote:

Bump...any further info?

I didn't see anything on their FB page or Adamants home site.

Gareth posted yesterday that it is one of the scheduled releases for April.


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Phalazar wrote:
psionichamster wrote:

Bump...any further info?

I didn't see anything on their FB page or Adamants home site.

Gareth posted yesterday that it is one of the scheduled releases for April.

Link to Facebook announcement.

Dark Archive

Urizen wrote:
Phalazar wrote:
psionichamster wrote:

Bump...any further info?

I didn't see anything on their FB page or Adamants home site.

Gareth posted yesterday that it is one of the scheduled releases for April.

Link to Facebook announcement.

Ooh, and if it releases this month with Far West,m, as well as DCC RPG, I'll have a lot of reading to do. Let's hope for the best and keep our fingers crossed.

Dark Archive

Woot! And Goodman shipped the PDF for preorders last night! Now really hope this ships.

Shadow Lodge

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Phalazar wrote:
Gareth posted yesterday that it is one of the scheduled releases for April.

To throw a damper on that, when he has bothered to write anything about it at all over the past year, it's been coming "next month" or "later this month". For a solid year.

I consider it vaporware until I'm actually looking at the PDF.


Kthulhu wrote:
Phalazar wrote:
Gareth posted yesterday that it is one of the scheduled releases for April.

To throw a damper on that, when he has bothered to write anything about it at all over the past year, it's been coming "next month" or "later this month". For a solid year.

I consider it vaporware until I'm actually looking at the PDF.

Cynical, but I can't disagree with you. A number of us feels the same way.

Sczarni

dm4hire wrote:
Woot! And Goodman shipped the PDF for preorders last night! Now really hope this ships.

Pdf of Warlords?

Shadow Lodge

That confused me too. Apparently he was talking about the PDF of Dungeon Crawl Classics.

Dark Archive

Kthulhu wrote:
That confused me too. Apparently he was talking about the PDF of Dungeon Crawl Classics.

I was, sorry. I was just excited that one of my games I ordered forever ago is actually shipping and was hoping that maybe the luck would rub off on this product too.

Sczarni

Bump?

Almost midway through April....any word, anyone?


I know it is not a pathfinder edition but there is another project for the grandfather of post apocalyptic RPGs Metamorphosis Alpha Kickstarter Project.

I have been looking for a new version of a post apocalyptic type game for awhile now and I was hoping for Warlords of the Apocalypse (and I am still hoping). I first found out about Jim Ward's new version about a year ago when they were thinking of doing a 4E version of the game, They have since decided to use their on game system instead. It is (at the time of this post ) 50% funded.


Pravus wrote:

I know it is not a pathfinder edition but there is another project for the grandfather of post apocalyptic RPGs Metamorphosis Alpha Kickstarter Project.

I have been looking for a new version of a post apocalyptic type game for awhile now and I was hoping for Warlords of the Apocalypse (and I am still hoping). I first found out about Jim Ward's new version about a year ago when they were thinking of doing a 4E version of the game, They have since decided to use their on game system instead. It is (at the time of this post ) 50% funded.

I have a friend that pledged for MA the other day and while it's probably unfounded, but when I think of 'dice pool' systems requiring only one type of dice, I imagine it being the equivalent of Exalted's d10 system. I didn't like rolling up to 30 dice simultaneously to hit a certain range of numbers and added them up to see if I successfully accomplished something. Turned me off quickly.

I would be curious if there's more explicit detail as to how their proprietary system will work, though.

Liberty's Edge

Early April seems to have passed.

Sczarni

As much as I want to believe its coming soon, given the attention and energy GMS &Adamant are dedicating to Far West, I don't think we're gonna see WotA anytime soon.

Once again, sadface.


I saw Wicht ask for a status update. And the waiting game continues.

Scarab Sages

Urizen wrote:
I saw Wicht ask for a status update. And the waiting game continues.

It was actually seeing this thread this morning that prompted me to check in and ask.


Shar Tahl wrote:
Early April seems to have passed.

He said "late March/early April." If you'll notice, this in no means specifies a year.

Sigh......now I can see why he doesn't bother with this thread.

Sczarni

Asked the main man himself this afternoon via Twitter.

His response: "No update available yet. When info becomes available, he won't be quiet about it."

In short, keep on waiting.

So, I shall.


It will be in May or June.
Possibly, July or August.
or, perhaps September.
October or November, or December, January, and February are also possibilities.

But it will definitely be in one of those months.
If it comes out.
WHEN it comes out, I mean.

Sczarni

On a day that ends in "Y", right?

Yeah, I know the probabilities.

I'm just hoping the success of Far West & Icons will translate into more capital for Adamant in general & WotA in specific.


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If I'm gonna wish I'm gonna wish big.

I want a Millenium Falcon, and a cute twi'lek copilot.

Dark Archive

Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:

If I'm gonna wish I'm gonna wish big.

I want a Millenium Falcon, and a cute twi'lek copilot.

But the cookies are better on the dark side.

Still waiting...


Any updates or news on this?


As far as I know, Adamant Entertainment for PF is dead.

Liberty's Edge

They are focused on their new product it seems. This product way on hte back burner...

From the facebook page wrote:


Rob Whitney
So. April has come and gone. Where stands Warlords of the Apocalypse?

We looking at a May release? June?
Like · · 5 May at 16:23

Gregg Bender ‎2013, 2014?
5 May at 16:28 · Like

Adamant Entertainment Everything we were expecting to release in April, obviously, hasn't moved yet. I'm going to stop making predictions, and only announce when I have something concrete.
6 May at 18:44 · Like


Submerged in concrete sounds more like it.


For those of us who didn't get in on the pre-order for it at the time (I was broke), has there been any news (hints? whispers?) on when WotA will see the light?

Sczarni

My best guess..."never."


You may have better luck submitting your inquiry about status updates to the Magic 8-Ball.

The Exchange

I hope it does come out. Soon. That way I can completely write off Adamant as a company that will ever see my money again.

The only way I would consider it at this point is if they released supporting products for this book, but are any of us naive enough to think that will ever happen?


Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Society Subscriber

I've already written them off. There's about US$100 worth of their PDFs that I'd have been interested in purchasing rbut for how this product has been handled.

Dark Archive

So tired of waiting... for everything they are working on. Heck, even Far West is taking forever. They've got all the money they will ever get from me and I was a big fan of their work until this project went vaporware.


OBOY! He's making Buckaroo Banzai!!!

Where do I send money?

Dark Archive

So here's something interesting, the main site has been updated. I find this quote from Facebook interesting and a bit ironic:

"The redesign of the Adamant Entertainment website is complete, expanded to cover everything we're doing:

http://www.adamantentertainment.com/"

The ironic part is there is no mention anywhere I can find about WotA. Which we've been told repeatedly that it is being worked on. If I missed it please point it out to me.

Dark Archive

And in other news related to Adamant, Rick Hershey has left the Far West project. Gareth listed that it was for personal reasons. This will of course cause a delay with that project as they move to fill the art he hadn't finished yet. So I'm sure this will set WotA back as well since Far West seems to be the new hotness that must be done first.

Dark Archive

I’m sorry so many people wasted their time on this game and company. Hopefully everyone got a refund, if not then write it up as a loss and move on.

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I think this energy should be directed to proven companies which already have PA games out there.

A few games I like - Mutant Epoch by Outland Arts is fun game (non-d20), well supported and innovative. If you want the true Gamma World successor (and influenced by the likes of Wasteland and Fallout 1/2) PA game with loads of campaign and supporting material that is compatible with 3.5 you should look into Darwin’s World (Covey/Davis) which IMO is one of the best written PA games out there.

I guess the trick would be to get the guys at RPG Objects to come out with a full Pathfinder version of the rules - but damn, these guys are good.

I know that Davis is running a DW scenario at GenCon with a Pathfinder conversion but I really wish he would go ahead make a Pathfinder rules conversion already


Maybe just maybe if they knew how many people want one for pathfinder, he may do it ??? I have most of Darwin stuff and have fiddled with it but I keep second guessing myself if it is balanced or even interesting.

Sczarni

Cue sad trombone music.....but then again, I waited almost 10 years for fallout 3, as well...

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