Stop the ACTA now!


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Liberty's Edge

The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, if passed, will be an immense violation of EVERYONE'S privacy and civil liberties.

- ISPS will now watch what you download, and tattle on you if you download a music track/ any data / rapidshares / torrents etc.
- ISPS will tattle on you, when you do anything which goes against "Governments policy".
- ISPS will be able to document and store EVERYTHING you do online. nothing will ever be private again.

Read more here.

SIGN THE PETITION TO STOP THE ACTA

Paizo Employee Sales Associate

The wikipedia entry on the ACTA can be found here and the current official draft text can be found here (direct link to the PDF).

The Exchange

I do not mind some regulation as long as privacy is maintained. I know it can be hell on companies who produce things but this is a fine line that we tread.

Scarab Sages

One of the problems is that the White House is bypassing Congress/Senate with this crap. So it's a huge uphill battle from the start. The fact that they are not going through the normal WIPO channels and doing this behind closed door and not letting certain countries participate and not telling the public is a HUGE issue.
This is the MFIAA/RIFIAA/and other entertainment corporations directly influencing the president and white house.
Very scary.


EFF's initial analysis:

Preliminary Analysis of the Officially Released ACTA Text

I also found this interesting.

"Legal scope

Nate Anderson with Ars Technica pointed out that ACTA encourages service providers to provide information about suspected infringers by giving them "safe harbor from certain legal threats". Similarly, it provides for criminalization of copyright infringement, granting law enforcement the powers to perform criminal investigation, arrests and pursue criminal citations or prosecution of suspects who may have infringed on copyright. It also allows criminal investigations and invasive searches to be performed against individuals for whom there is no probable cause, and in that regard weakens the presumption of innocence and allows what would in the past have been considered unlawful searches.

Since ACTA is an international treaty, it is an example of policy laundering used to establish and implement legal changes. Policy laundering allows legal provisions—usually administered through public legislation and subject to judiciary oversight—to be pushed through via closed negotiations among members of the executive bodies of the signatories. Once ratified, companies belonging to non-members may be forced to follow the ACTA requirements since they will fall out of the safe harbor protections. Also, the use of trade incentives and the like to persuade other nations to adopt treaties is a standard approach in international relationships. Additional signatories would have to accept ACTA's terms without much scope for negotiation.[54]

From June 16 to 18, 2010, a conference was held at the Washington College of Law, attended by "over 90 academics, practitioners and public interest organizations from six continents".[55] Their conclusions were published on June 23, 2010 on the American University Washington College of Law website. They found "that the terms of the publicly released draft of ACTA threaten numerous public interests, including every concern specifically disclaimed by negotiators.""


Nasty stuff indeed...

GRU (Sort_vampyr's dad)


Not to mention the part about seizing any electronic storage device and making full copies for analysis at a later time, at airports. This is a complete violation of privacy and is more drakonian than anything we've seen in the past. This protection of corporations is definitely bordering on fascism...

Welcome to 1984!

Liberty's Edge

When was this negotiated? And who was in charge?

There's nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now the parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss


Xaaon of Korvosa wrote:

Not to mention the part about seizing any electronic storage device and making full copies for analysis at a later time, at airports. This is a complete violation of privacy and is more drakonian than anything we've seen in the past. This protection of corporations is definitely bordering on fascism...

Welcome to 1984!

I'm in favor of defending intellectual property, but this act is definitely a poison pill.

It reminds me of the changes after 9/11 in intel and homeland security. Let's take massive ineffective bureaucracies and combine them into even more massive ineffectual bureaucracies with unconstitutional powers.

Yippee....

Liberty's Edge

Bitter Thorn wrote:

It reminds me of the changes after 9/11 in intel and homeland security. Let's take massive ineffective bureaucracies and combine them into even more massive ineffectual bureaucracies with unconstitutional powers.

Yippee....

Did you see my post immediately prior to yours?


houstonderek wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

It reminds me of the changes after 9/11 in intel and homeland security. Let's take massive ineffective bureaucracies and combine them into even more massive ineffectual bureaucracies with unconstitutional powers.

Yippee....

Did you see my post immediately prior to yours?

Most definitely! Neither party seems to like the constitution.

"Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss"

Liberty's Edge

The only difference is, the new boss is screwing us more eloquently.


houstonderek wrote:
The only difference is, the new boss is screwing us more eloquently.

Both the Obama administration and the Bush administration had rejected requests from civil libertarians and technologists for the text of ACTA, with the White House last year even indicating that disclosure would do "damage to the national security."

Google attorney slams ACTA copyright treaty


Not ACTA based, but still relevant I think.

Liberty's Edge

Has anyone else signed the petition?

The Exchange

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Has anyone else signed the petition?

Yes.


+2

{2373. Steve Martin Defend IPR and the US Constitution!}

Shadow Lodge

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Has anyone else signed the petition?

Yep.

Shadow Lodge

O_o

Petition Signature wrote:
Message from Anonymous: Dear GOVERNMENT, Anonymous is not pleased with the current development of the ACTA issue. Be aware that we would rather see the Internet destroyed than turned into a fascist tool of control. We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us.


Orthos wrote:

O_o

Petition Signature wrote:
Message from Anonymous: Dear GOVERNMENT, Anonymous is not pleased with the current development of the ACTA issue. Be aware that we would rather see the Internet destroyed than turned into a fascist tool of control. We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us.

:)

Liberty's Edge

Orthos wrote:

O_o

Petition Signature wrote:
Message from Anonymous: Dear GOVERNMENT, Anonymous is not pleased with the current development of the ACTA issue. Be aware that we would rather see the Internet destroyed than turned into a fascist tool of control. We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us.

Dear Anonymous. Have you heard of Carnivore? Please step away from the door as we kick it in and force you to a reprogramming camp.

The Government.


Wow only 2800+ signatures, that's sad.


ACTA negotiation meeting too secretive for a participant.


Disenchanter wrote:
ACTA negotiation meeting too secretive for a participant.

Typical.


Wow, I knew nothing of this apparently law breaking treaty that is trying to by pass almost ever safe gaurd set into all of our law and trade systems.
Thanks for the heads up. The press doesn't seem to be covering this much.

Im not sure that there is a better example of backroom dealing.

The Exchange

Any more word on any of this?? I know Cosmo put a couple of things up on FB about Al Franken as he is calling for people to stand up against monopolies of media and internet information control.


It's interesting how this is invisible in the news cycle.

A gaming board is a better information source than the MSM. LOL!

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