Hobbit on hold!


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So it appears that the Hobbit movie (which was supposed to start filming this summer) is on hold with no set time to resume. Looks like Peter Jackson will not hit his release date of December 2011.

Anyone know why?

Liberty's Edge

If has to do with the huge financial trouble the studio that holds the rights is in - MGM if I'm not mistaken. They are not / can not green light anything right now while talks continue regarding buy outs, bankruptcy etc. It's why Del Torro eventually bailed on directing. This also affects future movies in the Bond franchice as well. It's a huge shame really.

Go to www.theonering.net and learn more if you are so inclined ...

The Exchange

Very sad. I want this movie done and done right. I would also like to see The Children of Húrin made into a film.

Sovereign Court

Wait ... If the Hobbit is On Hold ... it means it's basically helpless ... as RAW go, right ?

So I can has Steak Attack on him ?

tasty ... tasty hobbit ....

MMMMmmmm ....


Lol. sucks about the movie though


Peter Jackson is in talks to direct, but he has attached the condition that shooting must begin before the end of 2010 (they're pretty much ready to go, with set construction underway, the exterior sets of Hobbiton prepared and so on). The MGM situation makes this complex, since Warner Brothers and New Line would have to put up 100% of the budget and might have to buy the film rights outright from MGM, which will be costly, but if it's the only way to get the film moving, they might have to do it.


Thanks for the update; so still hopeful


If they push it back to far they will lose their actors and have to recast wich is the real reason Jackson needs the project to start by the end of 2010.


Ian McKellan is apparently close to signing on for some other films. He's been doing some stage work and not planning things too far ahead to keep himself available for the start of filming on THE HOBBIT, but can't do that indefinitely. He also reports that a 'big announcement' on the project could be forthcoming, either confirming they're going forwards with it or putting it on hold indefinitely, like JAMES BOND.


Werthead wrote:
Ian McKellan is apparently close to signing on for some other films. He's been doing some stage work and not planning things too far ahead to keep himself available for the start of filming on THE HOBBIT, but can't do that indefinitely. He also reports that a 'big announcement' on the project could be forthcoming, either confirming they're going forwards with it or putting it on hold indefinitely, like JAMES BOND.

What news do you have on James Bond. I've heard nothing until now. What's going on?


I don't know if that's bad news really.

Don't want to appear contrary but let's be honest for a second, LOTR (apart from the first one)is a cheese fest that has gotten very old very fast, and the prospect of having the same guy at the helm of the project is quite frightening.

Sure, Del Toro is capable (Pan's Labyritnh is great), but look at his catalogue and you'll see crap too (sorry, Hellboy fans). So, no messiah either.

I loved Peter Jackson when he did Braindead and Bad Taste, but I don't know if I can stomach another attempt of his at Tolkien.


Greyblade wrote:

I don't know if that's bad news really.

Don't want to appear contrary but let's be honest for a second, LOTR (apart from the first one)is a cheese fest that has gotten very old very fast, and the prospect of having the same guy at the helm of the project is quite frightening.

Sure, Del Toro is capable (Pan's Labyritnh is great), but look at his catalogue and you'll see crap too (sorry, Hellboy fans). So, no messiah either.

I loved Peter Jackson when he did Braindead and Bad Taste, but I don't know if I can stomach another attempt of his at Tolkien.

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Liberty's Edge

Greyblade wrote:

I don't know if that's bad news really.

Don't want to appear contrary but let's be honest for a second, LOTR (apart from the first one)is a cheese fest that has gotten very old very fast, and the prospect of having the same guy at the helm of the project is quite frightening.

Sure, Del Toro is capable (Pan's Labyritnh is great), but look at his catalogue and you'll see crap too (sorry, Hellboy fans). So, no messiah either.

I loved Peter Jackson when he did Braindead and Bad Taste, but I don't know if I can stomach another attempt of his at Tolkien.

wow, could NOT disagree more! Those movies are great! They certainly do not 'get old fast'! In fact, I think it's safe to say they will be regarded as amazing movies that will be watched and enjoyed for years, if not decades, to come.

IF the Hobbit gets made, I think it pretty much MUST be Jackson at the helm!

Sovereign Court

Greyblade wrote:

I don't know if that's bad news really.

Don't want to appear contrary but let's be honest for a second, LOTR (apart from the first one)is a cheese fest that has gotten very old very fast, and the prospect of having the same guy at the helm of the project is quite frightening.

yeah, I honestly question your tastes, because I also couldn't disagree more.

The Exchange

Greyblade wrote:

I don't know if that's bad news really.

Don't want to appear contrary but let's be honest for a second, LOTR (apart from the first one)is a cheese fest that has gotten very old very fast, and the prospect of having the same guy at the helm of the project is quite frightening.

Sure, Del Toro is capable (Pan's Labyritnh is great), but look at his catalogue and you'll see crap too (sorry, Hellboy fans). So, no messiah either.

I agree. The first one I thought was brilliant, the second utter bollox, the third merely "meh". I was quite keen for Jackson not to do the Hobbit, so I'm somewhat disgruntled that Del Toro has dropped out (although the Hellboy films, I agree, are mixed). I thought Jackson over-sentimentalised the second and third films and took too many dodgy liberties with the source material (although it must be hard to tell the script-writer that it's crap when you are married to her). It is true that they are perhaps the first time we have seen a fantasy world genuinely realised on screen, and that they are visually spectacular, but that doesn't excuse some of the crud that masqueraded as Tolkien in those films.


EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
What news do you have on James Bond. I've heard nothing until now. What's going on?

The James Bond movies are now on indefinite hiatus until MGM's situation is resolved. The third Daniel Craig film, which was apparently close to going into full pre-production, is on hold until that time as well.

The situation being resolved would mean that MGM is sold to another company (unlikely, given MGM's colossal debts), MGM sells off the brand name to another studio (which they may not do, since if they somehow survive they'll want their highest-grossing film series to continue) or MGM goes bust completely and the bank forcibly sells off their assets and properties to other companies (the most likely conclusion), which may still take months or years to happen.

Officially THE HOBBIT is still in the pre-production phase, but they have to make a decision on how to handle the situation soon. THE HOBBIT is a more complicated situation as it's a co-production between MGM (who own the film rights) and New Line (who bankrolled LORD OF THE RINGS) with Warner Brothers handling the release, unlike LORD OF THE RINGS where New Line simply did everything. However, since MGM are not putting up all of the money, just supplying the rights, it may be easier for New Line and Warner Brothers to simply buy the rights off MGM altogether and proceed without them. There is speculation that MGM's next discussions with the bank may involve them being told to sell the HOBBIT rights to generate some cash to keep them going for a few more months (JAMES BOND is a much more formidable asset for the company, so MGM will likely be able to hang onto that franchise until the bitter end).

That decision by the bank is apparently due in a matter of weeks, so hopefully we'll get a final answer - shutdown or going into production - soon.


Greyblade wrote:
Don't want to appear contrary

Oh?

The Exchange

Greyblade wrote:
Sure, Del Toro is capable (Pan's Labyritnh is great), but look at his catalogue and you'll see crap too (sorry, Hellboy fans). So, no messiah either.

Last I heard, del Toro is no longer part of the Hobbit works.


I must add my name to the chorus who enjoyed all 3 LOTR films.

I know the goal was to have the Hobbit released 10 years after Fellowship. While I would like to see that happen I would rather wait a year and have a good movie than have it rushed.


Werthead wrote:
EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
What news do you have on James Bond. I've heard nothing until now. What's going on?

The James Bond movies are now on indefinite hiatus until MGM's situation is resolved. The third Daniel Craig film, which was apparently close to going into full pre-production, is on hold until that time as well.

The situation being resolved would mean that MGM is sold to another company (unlikely, given MGM's colossal debts), MGM sells off the brand name to another studio (which they may not do, since if they somehow survive they'll want their highest-grossing film series to continue) or MGM goes bust completely and the bank forcibly sells off their assets and properties to other companies (the most likely conclusion), which may still take months or years to happen.

Officially THE HOBBIT is still in the pre-production phase, but they have to make a decision on how to handle the situation soon. THE HOBBIT is a more complicated situation as it's a co-production between MGM (who own the film rights) and New Line (who bankrolled LORD OF THE RINGS) with Warner Brothers handling the release, unlike LORD OF THE RINGS where New Line simply did everything. However, since MGM are not putting up all of the money, just supplying the rights, it may be easier for New Line and Warner Brothers to simply buy the rights off MGM altogether and proceed without them. There is speculation that MGM's next discussions with the bank may involve them being told to sell the HOBBIT rights to generate some cash to keep them going for a few more months (JAMES BOND is a much more formidable asset for the company, so MGM will likely be able to hang onto that franchise until the bitter end).

That decision by the bank is apparently due in a matter of weeks, so hopefully we'll get a final answer - shutdown or going into production - soon.

Thank you very much, I'm a Bond Fan and I appreciate you taking the time to explain things.


Greyblade wrote:
Don't want to appear contrary but let's be honest for a second, LOTR (apart from the first one)is a cheese fest that has gotten very old very fast, and the prospect of having the same guy at the helm of the project is quite frightening.

Some of the best movies ever made. No offense, but you're frickin crazy! Name me one fantasy (D&D) movie that was done better. There isn't one!

LOTR put fantasy back on the map as non-joke cinema.

Anyway, hope it goes ahead with Jackson at the helm, with him directing I don't know if it gets much better than this.


I don't see how anyone couldn't love all 3 LOTR movies, they are crazy good.

I hope The Hobbit goes ahead with Jackson at the helm, it will be amazing.

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