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Okay seriously now..I am wondering which products have multiple printings.

Thanks,
ShaneG.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Plaag wrote:

Okay seriously now..I am wondering which products have multiple printings.

Thanks,
ShaneG.

Generally, we don't reprint a lot of products. Off the top of my head, here's a list of everything I can think of that Paizo has ever reprinted, broken down by whether or not things changed between printings...

Reprinted with no changes:
Shackled City Adventure Path
Pathfinder Adventure Path #2
Flip-Mat: Basic
Pathfinder RPG GM Screen

Reprinted with changes:
GameMastery Campaign Workbook (switched from glued binding to spiral binding)
GameMastery Critical Hit Deck (updated from 3.5 to PFRPG)
GameMastery Critical Fumble Deck (updated from 3.5 to PFRPG)
Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook (now on 3rd printing, with incorporated errata for each reprint)
Pathfinder RPG Bestiary (now on 2nd printing, with incorporated errata)
Kill Doctor Lucky (new player pawns, incorporated errata into rules, added "Little Dog Too" expansion)
Pathfinder Companion: Adventurer's Armory (2nd printing coming soon, with incorporated errata)
Combat Pad (minor packaging changes on previous reprints; major graphic redesign coming on next reprint)

Replaced with significantly different products:
GameMastery Item Cards: Item Pack One, Hero's Hoard, and Relics of War—reconfigured into GameMastery Item Cards: Essentials
GameMastery Flip-Mat (Squares and Hexes)—replaced with Flip-Mat: Basic
GameMastery Flip-Mat: City Square—replaced with a variety of city-themed Flip-Mats
GameMastery Flip-Mat: Forest Path—replaced with a variety of forest-themed Flip-Mats
GameMastery Flip-Mat: Dungeon—replaced with a new Flip-Mat: Dungeon featuring a completely different design
GameMastery Flip-Mat: Tavern—replaced with Flip-Mat: Waterfront Tavern (and probably other tavern-themed Flip-Mats to come)
GameMastery Map Pack: Village—replaced with a variety of city-themed Flip-Mats
GameMastery Map Pack: Countryside—replaced with a variety of country-themed Flip-Mats
Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting—to be replaced by Pathfinder Campaign Setting World Guide—Inner Sea

I *think* that about covers it...


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Vic Wertz wrote:

Reprinted with changes:

Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook (now on 3rd printing, with incorporated errata for each reprint)
Pathfinder RPG Bestiary (now on 2nd printing, with incorporated errata)

Vic:

I'm assuming that if I were to re-order these items from Paizo, they would be latest printing? Any idea as to availability through other trade outlets such as Amazon?

Thanks,

AJC

Sczarni

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AJCarrington wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:

Reprinted with changes:

Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook (now on 3rd printing, with incorporated errata for each reprint)
Pathfinder RPG Bestiary (now on 2nd printing, with incorporated errata)

Vic:

I'm assuming that if I were to re-order these items from Paizo, they would be latest printing? Any idea as to availability through other trade outlets such as Amazon?

Thanks,

AJC

it depends on when amazon ordered them from the distributor. as I understand it, the latest printing of these two books have been out for about a month and a half, and the distributors were out (or nearly out) of second printing when the third was released to them. So if amazon/FLGS ordered thier book after that time, you should most likely get the newest printing


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Cpt_kirstov wrote:
it depends on when amazon ordered them from the distributor. as I understand it, the latest printing of these two books have been out for about a month and a half, and the distributors were out (or nearly out) of second printing when the third was released to them. So if amazon/FLGS ordered thier book after that time, you should most likely get the newest printing

Thanks!

AJC

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

AJCarrington wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:

Reprinted with changes:

Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook (now on 3rd printing, with incorporated errata for each reprint)
Pathfinder RPG Bestiary (now on 2nd printing, with incorporated errata)

Vic:

I'm assuming that if I were to re-order these items from Paizo, they would be latest printing? Any idea as to availability through other trade outlets such as Amazon?

Thanks,

AJC

We're being careful to segregate our printings in our own warehouse, so we can confidently say that when you order from us you'll get the latest printing, but we can't guarantee the same for any other outlet.

Even though I think Amazon *should* have the latest printings of both by now, one never knows if one of their warehouses might still have old stock, or if their distributor might have some old stock moving through the system...


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Again, my thanks!!

AJC


How can one identify the different prints? Does it say "2nd Printing", and if so, where?


KaeYoss wrote:
How can one identify the different prints? Does it say "2nd Printing", and if so, where?

Well, I can only speak of my personal experience with the Core Rulebook and the Bestiary. I imagine that this would also be the same (or at least, very similar) for other books, as well.

If you look at the Credits page, the very bottom lines should be 'XXXXX printing MONTH YEAR.' and the place of printing.
The PDF version, once updated, bears the last printing version. For example, my physical copy of the Core Rulebook shows 'First Printing August 2009', while the updated PDF now bears 'Third Printing April 2010.'

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The Wraith wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
How can one identify the different prints? Does it say "2nd Printing", and if so, where?

Well, I can only speak of my personal experience with the Core Rulebook and the Bestiary. I imagine that this would also be the same (or at least, very similar) for other books, as well.

If you look at the Credits page, the very bottom lines should be 'XXXXX printing MONTH YEAR.' and the place of printing.
The PDF version, once updated, bears the last printing version. For example, my physical copy of the Core Rulebook shows 'First Printing August 2009', while the updated PDF now bears 'Third Printing April 2010.'

True... though I should note that the 1st printing of the Adventurer's Armory doesn't have that line, but the second printing will. (So if it doesn't say what printing it is on the credits page, you can assume it's the first printing.)


Vic Wertz wrote:


Reprinted with changes:
Pathfinder RPG Bestiary (now on 2nd printing, with incorporated errata)

Replaced with significantly different products:
Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting—to be replaced by Pathfinder Campaign Setting World Guide—Inner Sea

When will these two books be available in hardcover? I might hold onto my wallet till they are out.

Dark Archive

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questing gm wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:


Reprinted with changes:
Pathfinder RPG Bestiary (now on 2nd printing, with incorporated errata)

Replaced with significantly different products:
Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting—to be replaced by Pathfinder Campaign Setting World Guide—Inner Sea

When will these two books be available in hardcover? I might hold onto my wallet till they are out.

The bestiary is now available, so if you order it now you will get the new printing

The Campaign setting was supposed to be September, but apparently has been delayed until the new year.


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How long ago was the 2nd printing for the Bestiary released? I can’t check my book right now to see what printing I am at as I am at work.


Hobbun wrote:
How long ago was the 2nd printing for the Bestiary released? I can’t check my book right now to see what printing I am at as I am at work.

First Printing of the Bestiary (my physical book) shows 'September 2009'.

Second Printing of the Bestiary (my updated PDF) shows 'April 2010'.


Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber

Oh, ok. I am pretty sure mine is a 2nd printing then, as I bought my Bestiary last month. Unless they were trying to clear out old stock.

Thanks.

Dark Archive

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber

Since 1st Edition is winding down, would it be possible to know what has been reprinted? And other then digest sized books, I take it things won't be reprinted for 1st edition. Other then maybe updated for 2nd edition, right?

Thanks,
ShaneG.


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The bottom of this page lists those books reprinted with errata. (Scroll down to the section labelled errata documents).

Those downloads also give you the information you need to update any out of date printing to the most recent version. The digest books are all the latest printing.

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