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A......NAKED question....


Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:

So, after a rough start last night, the boy did rather well. Woke to eat at midnight and 2 am, then slept for over 4 hours.

In other news, however, he is a dangerous one to diaper change...

(Warning: spoilered in case some people are eating, very gross information contained in the following spoiler tag)

** spoiler omitted **

** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:

Yeah, that's one of those times with the really high Fort saves. :/
An entire bottle of baby shampoo to clean the baby and half a bottle of bleach to clean the walls, crib, mattress, etc. And at least three times through the washer for the sheets and such. Cause they don't do anything by halves.


Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:

Question:

Say.....it's Friday. I say we're doing something next Monday. To YOU, does this mean "the next coming up Monday three days from now," or "the Monday after the next coming Monday, which is 10 days hence?"

I would take that to mean the Monday 10 days hence.


Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:

Question:

Say.....it's Friday. I say we're doing something next Monday. To YOU, does this mean "the next coming up Monday three days from now," or "the Monday after the next coming Monday, which is 10 days hence?"

To me, it means I need to ask whether you meant the Monday 3 days hence or the following Monday, because I've had too many miscommunications around that issue to take anything for granted. :)


Right on......(lol) I've just had what I call a "faux" argument at work about it for a few days....(i.e. it's more like something to analyze to pass the time than an actual argument).

I just keep insisting that I'm right, meant more as a lampoon of myself than anything else.

I did admit, though, that I needed to know this was confusing, because as the primary communicator it's up to me to actually communicate what needs to be said, and make sure it's understandable. (although I DID actually clarify by saying next Monday, the 21st of February).


I think it's due to my extremely slight Asperger's component......I can live with that.

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Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:

Right on......(lol) I've just had what I call a "faux" argument at work about it for a few days....(i.e. it's more like something to analyze to pass the time than an actual argument).

I just keep insisting that I'm right, meant more as a lampoon of myself than anything else.

I did admit, though, that I needed to know this was confusing, because as the primary communicator it's up to me to actually communicate what needs to be said. (although I DID actually clarify by saying next Monday, the 21st of February).

Well, from a purely grammatical and logical standpoint, the next Monday is the one that immediately follows the day on which you are speaking. It doesn't really matter whether that day is a Friday or a Sunday. If it's Friday and you intend to mean the Monday ten days hence, then you should say the "Monday after next".

Still, the best way to avoid confusion is to do exactly what you did...follow up the day with the actual date (i.e., Month and day...and sometimes year).

EDIT: Out of curiosity, what's the argument to support the other interpretation? I can't think of a good one other than, "I don't believe in logic." ;-)


Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
A......NAKED question....

Are you feeling any better?

Did you have a decent birthday despite the hackage?


Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:

Question:

Say.....it's Friday. I say we're doing something next Monday. To YOU, does this mean "the next coming up Monday three days from now," or "the Monday after the next coming Monday, which is 10 days hence?"

The first one.


Paris Crenshaw wrote:
Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:

Right on......(lol) I've just had what I call a "faux" argument at work about it for a few days....(i.e. it's more like something to analyze to pass the time than an actual argument).

I just keep insisting that I'm right, meant more as a lampoon of myself than anything else.

I did admit, though, that I needed to know this was confusing, because as the primary communicator it's up to me to actually communicate what needs to be said. (although I DID actually clarify by saying next Monday, the 21st of February).

Well, from a purely grammatical and logical standpoint, the next Monday is the one that immediately follows the day on which you are speaking. It doesn't really matter whether that day is a Friday or a Sunday. If it's Friday and you intend to mean the Monday ten days hence, then you should say the "Monday after next".

Still, the best way to avoid confusion is to do exactly what you did...follow up the day with the actual date (i.e., Month and day...and sometimes year).

EDIT: Out of curiosity, what's the argument to support the other interpretation? I can't think of a good one other than, "I don't believe in logic." ;-)

A lot of people seem to refer to the temporally closest Monday as 'this Monday', with 'next Monday' being the one following that. So on Friday, 'this Monday' would be three days hence, and 'next Monday' would be ten days hence.

(Mind you, I think they're *wrong* when they do that, but I've run into a lot of people who do. :))


I'm off to to torment my FR players with the silent dark stalking horrors of the Spider Haunt woods! }:)


Lindisty wrote:

A lot of people seem to refer to the temporally closest Monday as 'this Monday', with 'next Monday' being the one following that. So on Friday, 'this Monday' would be three days hence, and 'next Monday' would be ten days hence.

(Mind you, I think they're *wrong* when they do that, but I've run into a lot of people who do. :))

I tend to think of it this way. 'This Monday' is 'this coming Monday' and 'next Monday' is the one after 'this Monday.' BUTbutbutbut I always ask the speaker to clarify just in case. I can also see a case for 'this Monday' being the Monday just past, i.e., the Monday that was in 'this week,' hence 'this Monday.' That makes 'next Monday' the Monday in the very next week. Arg.


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Comrade Cannibal wrote:
Eat the Rich!

Cereal is a conspiracy of our corporate masters to make us pay $5.00 for a box of silo sweepings doused in cheap corn fructose!

ARISE AND EAT MUFFINS! THEY ARE THE TRUE EGALITARIAN MEAL!

Mmmm, Millionaire Muffins. And Billionaire Biscuits. OM NOM NOM!

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Treppa wrote:
Lindisty wrote:

A lot of people seem to refer to the temporally closest Monday as 'this Monday', with 'next Monday' being the one following that. So on Friday, 'this Monday' would be three days hence, and 'next Monday' would be ten days hence.

(Mind you, I think they're *wrong* when they do that, but I've run into a lot of people who do. :))

I tend to think of it this way. 'This Monday' is 'this coming Monday' and 'next Monday' is the one after 'this Monday.' BUTbutbutbut I always ask the speaker to clarify just in case. I can also see a case for 'this Monday' being the Monday just past, i.e., the Monday that was in 'this week,' hence 'this Monday.' That makes 'next Monday' the Monday in the very next week. Arg.

Always best to clarify. ;)

The Exchange

Next Monday is a lie. There is no such thing as next Monday, wait until this hypothetical next Monday arises, and what is it then? It's now THIS Monday. Think about it. ;)

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Treppa wrote:
Lindisty wrote:

A lot of people seem to refer to the temporally closest Monday as 'this Monday', with 'next Monday' being the one following that. So on Friday, 'this Monday' would be three days hence, and 'next Monday' would be ten days hence.

(Mind you, I think they're *wrong* when they do that, but I've run into a lot of people who do. :))

I tend to think of it this way. 'This Monday' is 'this coming Monday' and 'next Monday' is the one after 'this Monday.' BUTbutbutbut I always ask the speaker to clarify just in case. I can also see a case for 'this Monday' being the Monday just past, i.e., the Monday that was in 'this week,' hence 'this Monday.' That makes 'next Monday' the Monday in the very next week. Arg.

Now that you mention it, I have always done the same thing, but I forgot about "this Monday" as an option while I was writing. Odd how trying to think things through sometimes causes one to forget one's own "normal" behavior. Weird.

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Moorluck wrote:
Next Monday is a lie. There is no such thing as next Monday, wait until this hypothetical next Monday arises, and what is it then? It's now THIS Monday. Think about it. ;)

Spooon!


Lindisty wrote:


A lot of people seem to refer to the temporally closest Monday as 'this Monday', with 'next Monday' being the one following that. So on Friday, 'this Monday' would be three days hence, and 'next Monday' would be ten days hence.

(Mind you, I think they're *wrong* when they do that, but I've run into a lot of people who do. :))

Yeah; that's who I was arguing with there......

I think the ultimate win, though, came with a self realization that MY communication was flawed in that it left the possibility of being misunderstood.

I just thought the whole situation would make an interesting thought experiment here, seeing as some of the conflict I see on the internet can be directly linked to subtle misunderstandings. Ther'es ZERO body language on an internet forum, for instance; no facial changes, no subtle voice modulations whatsoever.

A lot of it, too, can be due to anonymous people being asses, but hey....I have no control over that, besides that for which I am responsible.


For Treppa and SP, for this or any other SUNDAY.


This Xday=the Xday of this current week.

To avoid the confusion I prefer to speak/write of this past Xday, this coming Xday, or the Xday after next.

This following Xday would mean the Xday of the following week, which suffers from the same tendency of confusion as "this Xday."

Silver Crusade

I would say, "a week from this coming Monday."


Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
Lindisty wrote:


A lot of people seem to refer to the temporally closest Monday as 'this Monday', with 'next Monday' being the one following that. So on Friday, 'this Monday' would be three days hence, and 'next Monday' would be ten days hence.

(Mind you, I think they're *wrong* when they do that, but I've run into a lot of people who do. :))

Yeah; that's who I was arguing with there......

I think the ultimate win, though, came with a self realization that MY communication was flawed in that it left the possibility of being misunderstood.

I just thought the whole situation would make an interesting thought experiment here, seeing as some of the conflict I see on the internet can be directly linked to subtle misunderstandings. Ther'es ZERO body language on an internet forum, for instance; no facial changes, no subtle voice modulations whatsoever.

A lot of it, too, can be due to anonymous people being asses, but hey....I have no control over that, besides that for which I am responsible.

Don't worry. Common misunderstandings happen. For those who choose to be asses...they're on at least one of our lists. (We have several.)


Professor Higgins wrote:

This Xday=the Xday of this current week.

To avoid the confusion I prefer to speak/write of this past Xday, this coming Xday, or the Xday after next.

This following Xday would mean the Xday of the following week, which suffers from the same tendency of confusion as "this Xday."

I reckon that makes sense.


Sleestak #3 wrote:
For Treppa and SP, for this or any other SUNDAY.

YessssssssssssssssssSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSssssssssssssss!!!!


Damn sleestaks.


Here is some sunday fun


I'm Dwayne Dibbley...

Scarab Sages

stalks through the thread looking for his lost brainnnnssss.....


huzzah!!!

Scarab Sages

hazzuh?


mine!

Scarab Sages

Enim?


ayup.

RPG Superstar 2012

Celestial Healer wrote:
Things not going so well in the CH household. More rejections...

Sorry to hear that, CH. I'm hoping your good news is arriving soon.


bummer, ch.

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Aberzombie wrote:

So, after a rough start last night, the boy did rather well. Woke to eat at midnight and 2 am, then slept for over 4 hours.

In other news, however, he is a dangerous one to diaper change...

(Warning: spoilered in case some people are eating, very gross information contained in the following spoiler tag)

** spoiler omitted **

Children cured me of being grossed out by much of anything.

Scarab Sages

taig wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Things not going so well in the CH household. More rejections...
Sorry to hear that, CH. I'm hoping your good news is arriving soon.

+1. Keep faith brother!

RPG Superstar 2012

Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:

Right on......(lol) I've just had what I call a "faux" argument at work about it for a few days....(i.e. it's more like something to analyze to pass the time than an actual argument).

I just keep insisting that I'm right, meant more as a lampoon of myself than anything else.

I did admit, though, that I needed to know this was confusing, because as the primary communicator it's up to me to actually communicate what needs to be said, and make sure it's understandable. (although I DID actually clarify by saying next Monday, the 21st of February).

By a "few" days, do you mean 2, 5, 11, or something else entirely? :)


taig wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:

So, after a rough start last night, the boy did rather well. Woke to eat at midnight and 2 am, then slept for over 4 hours.

In other news, however, he is a dangerous one to diaper change...

(Warning: spoilered in case some people are eating, very gross information contained in the following spoiler tag)

** spoiler omitted **

Children cured me of being grossed out by much of anything.

For me, the idea that it's my kid's junk and not somebody else's makes it all doable.


taig wrote:
Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:

Right on......(lol) I've just had what I call a "faux" argument at work about it for a few days....(i.e. it's more like something to analyze to pass the time than an actual argument).

I just keep insisting that I'm right, meant more as a lampoon of myself than anything else.

I did admit, though, that I needed to know this was confusing, because as the primary communicator it's up to me to actually communicate what needs to be said, and make sure it's understandable. (although I DID actually clarify by saying next Monday, the 21st of February).

By a "few" days, do you mean 2, 5, 11, or something else entirely? :)

Ongoing joke...

Scarab Sages

Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
For me, the idea that it's my kid's junk and not somebody else's makes it all doable.

Yup.


mine!!!

Scarab Sages

Doodle doodle dee!


cock!

RPG Superstar 2012

Draconic ocktober

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Has the new hotness hit the fan?

RPG Superstar 2012

Awwww, they "fixed" it.


miiiiine!!!


s!*~

No accidental f@$%ing bleeping of crap now.


hey!!!

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