Folding Boat Issue - How Fast Does It Go?


Rules Questions


I totally love the wondrous item "Folding Boat." But I didn't love it enough, apparently, to notice before now that neither form of the item (boat or ship, as the text seems to have settled on dubbing them) matches any of the forms of transport in the equipment section well enough to determine what its movement stats should be. Both forms seem to fall neatly between "Rowboat" (on the too-small end of things) and "Keelboat." Complicating things further, because of the design of the Keelboat, it moves slower than a Rowboat, so I can't even split the difference between the two speeds and call it a day. The "ship" form of the folding boat seems to be like a quarter-size version of the Sailing Ship, but that isn't really helpful in terms of determining its stats. Straying from pure Pathfinder goods, it comes closest in terms of size to the Pinnance as described in Stormwrack, and indeed both have the same complement (about 15 people), but the Pinnance is described as having more sails. Should I suck it up and use the Pinnance from Stormwrack, or has this been dealt with by some errata or official utterance somewhere already?


Landon Schurtz wrote:
I totally love the wondrous item "Folding Boat." But I didn't love it enough, apparently, to notice before now that neither form of the item (boat or ship, as the text seems to have settled on dubbing them) matches any of the forms of transport in the equipment section well enough to determine what its movement stats should be. Both forms seem to fall neatly between "Rowboat" (on the too-small end of things) and "Keelboat." Complicating things further, because of the design of the Keelboat, it moves slower than a Rowboat, so I can't even split the difference between the two speeds and call it a day. The "ship" form of the folding boat seems to be like a quarter-size version of the Sailing Ship, but that isn't really helpful in terms of determining its stats. Straying from pure Pathfinder goods, it comes closest in terms of size to the Pinnance as described in Stormwrack, and indeed both have the same complement (about 15 people), but the Pinnance is described as having more sails. Should I suck it up and use the Pinnance from Stormwrack, or has this been dealt with by some errata or official utterance somewhere already?

I'd edge towards the Keelboat and Sailing ship if you just want to reference the RAW. If you're open to pulling from other sources, then I'd say grab the more appropriate information that seems to fit the description of the magic item.


I'd pirate the Pinnace from Stormwrack.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Folding Boats despite thier magical nature are treated just as ordinary boats of the relevant type. i.e.rowboat or sailcraft.


LazarX wrote:
Folding Boats despite thier magical nature are treated just as ordinary boats of the relevant type. i.e.rowboat or sailcraft.

The whole point is that given the description (dimensions, complement, etc.) under the item, neither form of the Folding Boat corresponds to any type of boat specified in the rules... as stated in my original post. No where did I indicate that the "magical nature" of the FB was my issue; indeed, I *assume* it functions just like a normal boat of the relevant type. Figuring out *what that type is*, however, is the problem.

As stated in the original post.

I'm leaning toward the Pinnace, at least for my games. As for when I'm playing, I'll pitch the idea to the GM and hope he bites. Otherwise, it's all voodoo and mystery.

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