Multiple duplicate natural attacks?

[Murdock Mudeater]

Doublechecking, if I have a natural attack, say claws, and then I take levels is class like the Sorcerer with the Abyssal Bloodline, whose first level power grants Claws on a temporary basis, how do they interact with my existing natural claws?

[Avoron]

Half-Orc--Toothy: Does this alternate racial trait stack with the Razortusk feat (page 168) granting you two bite attacks? wrote:

This is one of those areas where we tried to get at the same idea multiple ways. In this case, the answer is no, unless you somehow manage to get an extra mouth. Generally speaking, natural weapons can only be used once per round each. This also applies to the Animal Fury barbarian rage power (Core Rulebook, page 32).

Emphasis added. You can use one claw per limb in a full-attack, no matter how many claw-adding abilities you have.

[Murdock Mudeater]

Avoron wrote:

Half-Orc--Toothy: Does this alternate racial trait stack with the Razortusk feat (page 168) granting you two bite attacks? wrote:

This is one of those areas where we tried to get at the same idea multiple ways. In this case, the answer is no, unless you somehow manage to get an extra mouth. Generally speaking, natural weapons can only be used once per round each. This also applies to the Animal Fury barbarian rage power (Core Rulebook, page 32).

Emphasis added. You can use one claw per limb in a full-attack, no matter how many claw-adding abilities you have.

Huh..well that's part of the question. Mainly I'm wondering if I then a choice of claw attacks, or if having an innate set prevents use of the class ability. Or if the class ability prevents use of my normal set. And how feats, like improved natural attack, would intereact with two sets of claws on the same two hands.

And in the case of claw attacks, it's usually two claw attacks. Can I use one of each source (natural claw in one hand, sorcerer bloodline claw in the other)?

And furthermore, your example uses bites and says I'd need an extra mouth for another bite attack. But for claws, as a humanoid I do have 4 limbs...I doubt the intention is to have 4 claw attacks, but if the arguement against is solely that I lack the limbs, I think the arguement is flawed.

[The Archive]

Bipeds can't place claws on their feet, only hands. Talons can be placed on biped feet. See this FAQ.

As for using the sorcerer ability, it would more than likely just overlap and render irrelevant your existing claws, along lines of how having similar magical effects on you works. You'd essentially just 'upgrade' the existing ones.

[Chess Pwn]

You pick which claw to use if you have two claws on 1 hand.
So yes, you can do one claw of 1 ability and the other with the other.
Claws can't go on feat per.. FAQ I believe.

[Murdock Mudeater]

Thanks for that FAQ link, that helps.

The Archive wrote:

As for using the sorcerer ability, it would more than likely just overlap and render irrelevant your existing claws, along lines of how having similar magical effects on you works. You'd essentially just 'upgrade' the existing ones.

But are you keeping the old claws and just giving them a power up, or is one set of claws replacing the other?

Found a better example to explain my issue: Character has applied poison to his natural claws before combat. Then, during combat and as a free action, gains claws via the sorcerer bloodline ability. Where is the poison?

[Jader7777]

I'm assuming growing claws doesn't purge poison, so it'd still be there.