You use the druid's base attack+his modified attributes you get due to wildshape.
It will be easier you post your druid's stats. Unlike 3.5 you don't get the animal's stats as your own.
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Wow, those are pretty awesome stats.
In answer to your question about the lower attack bonus, that is a secondary natural attack, which means it goes off at -5 to hit and half-STR bonus to damage. If you take the Multiattack feat, you can reduce this penalty to -2.
For Power Attack, this means that those attacks also get only +1 damage per -1 attack penalty, unlike your primary talon/bite attacks, which get +2/-1.
You use the druid's base attack+his modified attributes you get due to wildshape.
It will be easier you post your druid's stats. Unlike 3.5 you don't get the animal's stats as your own.
Sure if it would be easier
Str: 18
Dex: 18
Con: 14
Int: 7
Wis: 13
Cha: 8But I posted the link to the entire character sheet.
I did not see that but now--> link to character sheet
It seems Jason has this one.
PS: Your AC: 16=10+(2 natural armor, 4 dex)
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Paizo has been working on other projects besides substantially updating their Errata/ latest printing,
but posts from the editorial staff are pretty clear that Paizo considers Shield bonuses as inappropriate.
Though the current wording may allow Shield bonuses to apply to Wildshape,
you should expect the wording to be amended AT SOME POINT in the future to disallow them.
There is always the option to Wildshape into an Ape-like form that can use weapons and shields.
Doesn't the shield bonus carry over? It says you lose all armor bonus but shield bonus isn't a armor bonus.You use the druid's base attack+his modified attributes you get due to wildshape.
It will be easier you post your druid's stats. Unlike 3.5 you don't get the animal's stats as your own.
Sure if it would be easier
Str: 18
Dex: 18
Con: 14
Int: 7
Wis: 13
Cha: 8But I posted the link to the entire character sheet.
I did not see that but now--> link to character sheet
It seems Jason has this one.
PS: Your AC: 16=10+(2 natural armor, 4 dex)
No the shield bonus does not carry over until he gets the wild enhancement put on it.
edit: The link
Wow, those are pretty awesome stats.
In answer to your question about the lower attack bonus, that is a secondary natural attack, which means it goes off at -5 to hit and half-STR bonus to damage. If you take the Multiattack feat, you can reduce this penalty to -2.
For Power Attack, this means that those attacks also get only +1 damage per -1 attack penalty, unlike your primary talon/bite attacks, which get +2/-1.
So my attacks would be:
+8 1d8+5
+8 1d8+5
+8 1d6+5
+0? 1d4+2 (+2(Str)+3 BAB -5)Power Attack
+7 1d8+7
+7 1d8+7
+7 1d6+7
-1 1d4+3Did I do that math right?
Treantmonk has this, but I think he has too few 1d8 and too many 1d6 and I don't get how he gets such a high attack on the secondary natural:
Attack: +10/+10/+10+5 (Druid) +10/+10/+10 (ape) (Druid +3 BAB, +5 Str, +1 enh, +2 flank, -1 power attack)
Damage: 1d8+8/1d6+8/1d6+8/1d4+3 (Druid) average 41 1d6+9/1d6+9/1d6+9 (Ape) average 37. Total average 78
The attacks should be
+8+8
+8
+3(the secondary attack comes with a -5 penalty to attack)
Note: This is for the Deinonychus.
+3(the secondary attack comes with a -5 penalty to attack)The 1/2 of Strength is only for Damage, not for attack, i think he mixed that one up.
it is not half strength, secondary attacks have a plain -5 on attack and half strength to damage. multi-attack feat decreases attack penalty to -2.
Shield does not carry over in my opinion, no reason why it should, except possibly in the case of the ape which could allow for some equipment use if the DM allows.
it is not half strength, secondary attacks have a plain -5 on attack and half strength to damage. multi-attack feat decreases attack penalty to -2.+3(the secondary attack comes with a -5 penalty to attack)The 1/2 of Strength is only for Damage, not for attack, i think he mixed that one up.
If the druid has multiattack the penalty drops to -2 as mentioned and the secondary attack is at a +6.
The issue is getting a DM to allow it. The druid is not an animal and does not really qualify for multiattack, but I dont think its game breaking.
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it is not half strength, secondary attacks have a plain -5 on attack and half strength to damage. multi-attack feat decreases attack penalty to -2.+3(the secondary attack comes with a -5 penalty to attack)The 1/2 of Strength is only for Damage, not for attack, i think he mixed that one up.If the druid has multiattack the penalty drops to -2 as mentioned and the secondary attack is at a +6.
The issue is getting a DM to allow it. The druid is not an animal and does not really qualify for multiattack, but I dont think its game breaking.
For the deinonychus, honestly Multiattack only provides a catch-up bonus for one attack, and your weakest attack at that (smallest die at 1d4, 1/2 STR bonus to damage).
I think you'd get a better payoff from taking Weapon Focus (talons) - applies to your two biggest attacks. One talon hit is literally worth TWO foreclaw hits (1d8 + full STR).
it is not half strength, secondary attacks have a plain -5 on attack and half strength to damage. multi-attack feat decreases attack penalty to -2.+3(the secondary attack comes with a -5 penalty to attack)The 1/2 of Strength is only for Damage, not for attack, i think he mixed that one up.If the druid has multiattack the penalty drops to -2 as mentioned and the secondary attack is at a +6.
The issue is getting a DM to allow it. The druid is not an animal and does not really qualify for multiattack, but I dont think its game breaking.
For the deinonychus, honestly Multiattack only provides a catch-up bonus for one attack, and your weakest attack at that (smallest die at 1d4, 1/2 STR bonus to damage).
I think you'd get a better payoff from taking Weapon Focus (talons) - applies to your two biggest attacks. One talon hit is literally worth TWO foreclaw hits (1d8 + full STR).
I would not take it either. I was just responding to the other post. :)