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Seriously point to one thing that would let a blind person listening to the spiderman movies or if someone read the comics to him or listened to the animated show know peter parker was white man.There's also nothing to let a blind person know that Spider-Man's costume wasn't bright pink, but you and I both know it wasn't don't we?
The fact of the matter is that a character was made. The character has an established personality which could of course belong to anyone, however the character was made for a visual medium and so he also has an established appearance as well. If the writer/director/casting agent doesn’t make any effort to find a person who looks like the established character then they are taking as much creative license with the character as the writer would be if he changed the story from the comics.
Spider mans costume, is that the black one, the silver one, the red and blue one, the red and yellow one, or the various ones from the time spiderman was on the lam and posing as different costumed heros?
Spider mans costume, is that the black one, the silver one, the red and blue one, the red and yellow one, or the various ones from the time spiderman was on the lam and posing as different costumed heros?
The most iconic is of course the blue and red, but my point still stands, no hot pink costume.
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If this happens the next thing will be a Ru Paul playing Wonder Woman...sorry but this has gone too far, the PC movement seemd so intelectually honest at first but in recent years it has become a joke and often a weapon to beat us evil racist white people into the ground... btw I am half native american but I look white and work in a predominantly black community, so I see real bigotry daily, often directed at me lol. WE should ALL be able to be proud of our heritage regardless but the fact that bigotry and racism are confused for each other has drawn so many lines in this country that until we can stop worrying about this stuff, its the baiters on both sides that keep the debate alive and this subject is no different, Spider Man is a white kid, Black Falcon is a Black Hero, as is Powerman, the 2nd Green Lantern, Cyborg, the Panther etc... lets stick to the way things are and not dredge up a racial debate over a comic character. Not to mention if we really want a debate... Very few Native American heroes in the genre but the NA's were here first and as far as oppression goes, well they got it worse than most, a ghetto is nice compared to the Hopi/Navajo Res in Gallup New Mexico
Yeah and if a native american can fill the role of peter parker well, I have no problem with a native american playing it. I'm not saying I want a black person cast to play spider-man, I'm saying that it doesn't matter what race the person playing peter parker is as long as they get the character right.
I'd be way more upset at a white peter parker who is played by a guy as suave as James Bond than a black (or indian) peter parker who nails the personality. This has nothing to do with political correctness. I don't give a s*$% if they call him black or african american, hell, me and my wife (who is black) both hate the term african american. I also hate token black guy syndrome where they have to add some irrelevant back up cast person with one line who is black to have ethnic diversity in the movie. But I think it's stupid to say that Peter Parkers race matters when there is nothing in any of the spider-man comics that deals with peter parkers race. It should be a non-issue and it should go to the best actor.
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The most iconic is of course the blue and red, but my point still stands, no hot pink costume.
Spider mans costume, is that the black one, the silver one, the red and blue one, the red and yellow one, or the various ones from the time spiderman was on the lam and posing as different costumed heros?
You're right, but the story HAS made a point of dealing with the issue of spider-mans costume. In fact whenever Spidey changes his costume you see people questioning him about it and Spidey has had stories that dealt with the emotional reasons for wearing different costumes. Spider-man has never had a story dealing with his ethnicity where his race became an integral part of his character, whereas he has had stories where dealing with his costume choice became an integral part of his character. I can point to several times in the comics that dealt with that very issue, I can't do the same for peter parkers race.
You're right, but the story HAS made a point of dealing with the issue of spider-mans costume. In fact whenever Spidey changes his costume you see people questioning him about it and Spidey has had stories that dealt with the emotional reasons for wearing different costumes. Spider-man has never had a story dealing with his ethnicity where his race became an integral part of his character, whereas he has had stories where dealing with his costume choice became an integral part of his character. I can point to several times in the comics that dealt with that very issue, I can't do the same for peter parkers race.The most iconic is of course the blue and red, but my point still stands, no hot pink costume.
Spider mans costume, is that the black one, the silver one, the red and blue one, the red and yellow one, or the various ones from the time spiderman was on the lam and posing as different costumed heros?
I’m sure that’s because ol’ Petey doesn’t change his race quite as often as he does his costume. The point is that Comics, as a medium are a visual medium. Spider Man is not just credited to his writer Stan Lee, but his artist Steve Ditko. How Spider Man/Peter Parker looks is a part of who he is. Making him black, or blonde, or having one eye, or albino, a “little person” or starting off wearing a bright pink costume might not change the contributions the writers have made to spider-man over the years, but it does throw the contributions the artists have made right out the window.
If they did that, they should also change Aunt May...
;)
If they did that, they should also change Aunt May...
;)
That may have crossed the line, this post makes me uncomfortable, and hungry.
Mostly hungry.
But I think it's stupid to say that Peter Parkers race matters when there is nothing in any of the spider-man comics that deals with peter parkers race.
Well, nothing except the way he looks and has looked in literally thousands of appearances in his own comics, various spin offs and crossovers, TV Shows, movies, cartoons and childrens books. Yeah, but besides that, absolutely nothing that ties him to any particular race.
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Heh, another "Am I a hippocrit? (who can't spell)" moment. Realize I loved Michael Clarke Duncan in Daredevil.
So now I am wondering why an ethnic Spodey would rub me the wrong way. (And again, I'd want Miguel O'hara to be hispanic if they did a 2099, at least I'm consistant on my heroes)
Asked a black coworker about this, and his reply had nothing to do with race, more along the lines of hating when they have new actors playing established characters.
There's gonna be a new spidey either way. So he's SOL.
The most iconic is of course the blue and red, but my point still stands, no hot pink costume.Spider mans costume, is that the black one, the silver one, the red and blue one, the red and yellow one, or the various ones from the time spiderman was on the lam and posing as different costumed heros?
No your point doesn't stand.
The only reason there wasn't a hot point costume(barring the possiblity of editorial interferance with the artists), is that no one choose to draw him in a pink suit. Nothing revents spidey from wearing a pink suit is an artist thinks it would look cool.
The joker and harley quinn are two of the most Iconic villains in all comic book history. You can easily describe them right. Jokers a laughing male psychopath in a purple suit and harley is a blonde former psychatrist with leet gymnnastic skills and a love of big mallets and bigger guns right?
Wrong!!!!
The joker is also Bianca Steeplechase, while harley is also Hayley Fitzpatrick, a lesbian version of the pair from Thrillkiller
Oh, and Harley is also a member of a alt-lifestyle folk duo with Ivy in another elseworld story.
She has also been the jokesters business manager and a stripper.
Peter parker no longer gets bitten by radio active spiders. its transgenic ones these days. Characters and their stories are open to re-interpritation. Comics do it all the time.
They do need a black Dr. Who. He's always a English white dude.
We asked...we were denighed :P
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Heh, another "Am I a hippocrit? (who can't spell)" moment. Realize I loved Michael Clarke Duncan in Daredevil.
So now I am wondering why an ethnic Spodey would rub me the wrong way.
It's because, as I've stated, Spider-Man is one of the most iconic fictional characters in existence. He long ago transcended his comic book origins. He's got a balloon in the Thanksgiving Parade. He's a regular on the Electric Company. Hell, I'd argue that he's even the one of the Top Three (the others being Superman and Batman) that has permeated into our culture the most. He's truly iconic, and switching his race for no other reason that to pay homage to the gods of Political Correctness is going to be rejected.
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The joker and harley quinn are two of the most Iconic villains in all comic book history.
Sorry, but I've got to dispute that little statement. Joker as on of the most iconic villains in all comic book history = two thumbs up.
Idea of Harley Quinn as same = laughter.
Joker's been around for 70 years and has been Batman's archnemesis for most of that time. You ask the average person on the street who The Joker is, there's a good chance they know he's Batman's big enemy.
Harley Quinn has been around since the early 90s, where she was introduced in the animated series. She's pretty much a sidekick to better and more interesting villains. You ask the average person who the character is, do you think they'll answer correctly?
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Wrong!!!!
The joker is also Bianca Steeplechase, while harley is also Hayley Fitzpatrick, a lesbian version of the pair from Thrillkiller
Oh, and Harley is also a member of a alt-lifestyle folk duo with Ivy in another elseworld story.
She has also been the jokesters business manager and a stripper.
Peter parker no longer gets bitten by radio active spiders. its transgenic ones these days. Characters and their stories are open to re-interpritation. Comics do it all the time.
Flaw with your argument. If I, or most people I think, go to see Batman then we expect the Joker to be male, and Harley to be female in their most iconic/common incarnation.
If I'm going to see Bianca/Hayley, it had better be clear up front that it's based on Thrillkiller, or I'm going to be pissed.
I don't expect to go to 'Batman begins' and see Owlman, or the Batman of Zur En Arth.
I'm not going to want to see 'Ben Riley, spiderman' I'm going to want to see Peter frakking Parker.
I'm not going to go see 'Red Son' in the theaters, I want to see Superman.
No one went to see 'Watchman' expecting Blue Beetle, Captain Atom, and the Question.
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Spiderman Tangent. I'd also want to see Spiderman 2099 keep Father JEnnifer. Yes the catholics would likely be upset. I would want her in there just as much as I'd want Spiderman 2099 to be hispanic.
(Not that a change would happen, no one cares about offending Christians)
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Lots of Captain America names...
Damn, that's a lot of Caps. Which wiki site did you get those names from? I saw the main one that mentioned three by name: Rogers, Walker, and Bucky. It also mentioned some of the others (though none by name). If there's a better source, though, I'd certainly be interested.
At first, I rejected the idea out of a fair degree of nerd-rage knee-jerking.
Then I thought about it.
And I continue to reject it, based on the following:
It would be a rebuild, a reimagining. There is only so much you can change before you make the character truly different from it's origional incarnation. It could be race, setting, relationships, etc, and the degree of change differs character by character, but this is what I see regarding issues with a black Spiderman.
Black Peter Parker (BPP) requires a black Uncle Ben (whoa, that could get Un-PC really fast) and a black Aunt May. To not do so indicates that either he isn't blood related to them, or the previous generation of his family was very unjudgemental and progressive. Also, it would potentially create issues with the ethnicity of his own parents, and whatever role they might play in later stories.
Portrayals of BPP's home life would be difficult due to the economic level that is universally implied by both the origional and the Ultimate storylines. Their lifestyle is low/fixed income, which is unfortunately considered a negative in regards to african-americans. While I am not saying there aren't any who live on such incomes and don't reinforce stereotypes like welfare, child neglect, low-income housing, etc, the fact remains it would be extremely difficult to portray the home life of Peter Parker without making it look like a "black family pretending to be a white family".
I have met a fair number of african-americans. From various economic and professional backgrounds. The number which can, for lack of a better term, "blend" or perhaps "not stand out as black even when in a lightless room" are very small. There are speech traits, body language, cultural and behavioral traits that all compile to give a person their identity. And escaping those traits is both difficult and unusual.
I mean, here I am, 30 years old, white male, brown hair, no appreciable accent, prefers blue jeans and t-shirts, I speak the subculture dialects of internet, video games, anime, and tabletop gaming. I have a smattering of classical music experience, a college degree, and a fair bit of martial arts experience, just enough to make me probably a tad overconfident, but not definitively competent.
In short, I am the stereotypical "gamer generation" american male. No matter how good my acting skills, I simply should not be cast as, say, a native american, no matter how well I play the part. What I'm trying to say is....
.....you know what, screw it. How about this: Everyone who has no problem with a black Spiderman, none at all, hereby and forevermore WAIVES THEIR RIGHT to comment on the casting choices for Prince of Persia and The Last Airbender.
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But I think it's stupid to say that Peter Parkers race matters when there is nothing in any of the spider-man comics that deals with peter parkers race.Well, nothing except the way he looks and has looked in literally thousands of appearances in his own comics, various spin offs and crossovers, TV Shows, movies, cartoons and childrens books. Yeah, but besides that, absolutely nothing that ties him to any particular race.
In none of those appearances did he look like Tobey Macquire either.
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.....you know what, screw it. How about this: Everyone who has no problem with a black Spiderman, none at all, hereby and forevermore WAIVES THEIR RIGHT to comment on the casting choices for Prince of Persia and The Last Airbender.
You realize that your logic is backwards. It's perfectly okay to comment about this because they will frequently cast a white guy in place of a proper ethnicity. Yet we aparently can't stomach the thought of the same being done in reverse.
Why is it okay that the Prince of Persia can be white when Peter Parker can't be black?
Now if it were equal in both directions. If it was frequent to allow the best actor portray daredevil and we had a black guy playing the daredevil without it being a big deal, then we wouldn't be bothered when Ghengis Khan is played by John Wayne.
Why is it okay that the Prince of Persia can be white when Peter Parker can't be black?
His point is this; in the games, the Prince of Persia was, you know, Persian. In Avatar, the characters were not-Inuit/Buddhist/Japanese/Chinese. Peter Parker is originally Caucasian. If you're not going to care about a character's race for one movie adaptation, you'd be a damn hypocrite if you cared about it for a different adaptation.
.....you know what, screw it. How about this: Everyone who has no problem with a black Spiderman, none at all, hereby and forevermore WAIVES THEIR RIGHT to comment on the casting choices for Prince of Persia and The Last Airbender.
That would make sense if the comic was known as the Spectacularly White Spiderman.
Why is it okay that the Prince of Persia can be white when Peter Parker can't be black?His point is this; in the games, the Prince of Persia was, you know, Persian. In Avatar, the characters were not-Inuit/Buddhist/Japanese/Chinese. Peter Parker is originally Caucasian. If you're not going to care about a character's race for one movie adaptation, you'd be a damn hypocrite if you you cared about it for a different adaptation.
Can anybody show Spidey's deep white roots? Nobody is arguing the racial importance to these other characters. In fact we're agreeing with it. If Spiderman showed an ounce of his WASP roots as important to anything he's ever done, then yes your right. As it stands the only thing white about him is the color of his skin.
In fact is Peter Parker - Irish? Italian? French? English? etc? He is racially ambiguous. If a black actor can best portray Spiderman except for his skin tone, then I'm for it.
Black Peter Parker = Steve Urkel
Do you really want a Spider-Urkel?
Oh ye gods killit killitNAO
Can anybody show Spidey's deep white roots? Nobody is arguing the racial importance to these other characters. In fact we're agreeing with it. If Spiderman showed an ounce of his WASP roots as important to anything he's ever done, then yes your right. As it stands the only thing white about him is the color of his skin.
In fact is Peter Parker - Irish? Italian? French? English? etc? He is racially ambiguous. If a black actor can best portray Spiderman except for his skin tone, then I'm for it.
But that's not the point. The point is, you either care about the actor looking like how the character should look (having them hire the best actor that both looks and acts like the character, ie Brandon Routh in Superman Returns), or you care about them hiring the best actor for the role whether he looks like the character usually does or not, and siwtching your stance for different movies is just hypocrisy. Of course, when they use an actor that looks drastically different from the character they usually aren't getting the best actor anyway, but you get my point, right?
But that's not the point. The point is, you either care about the actor looking like how the character should look (having them hire the best actor that both looks and acts like the character, ie Brandon Routh in Superman Returns), or you care about them hiring the best actor for the role whether he looks like the character usually does or not, and siwtching your stance for different movies is just hypocrisy. Of course, when they use an actor that looks drastically different from the character they usually aren't getting the best actor anyway, but you get my point, right?
I don't think it's hypocrisy to say that characters with important ties to race shouldn't be played by other races. And that characters that are only superficially a race can be played by other races. I think they are two seperate things and one doesn't mutually exclude the other.
And I don't care how the character looks as long as it's the character I know and love.
And I say that at the very least the actor should look vaguely like the character they're playing usually looks, if only to help suspension of disbelief. So, agree to disagree on this, since we're on different ends of the actor-hiring-philosophy scale?
Yet to be seen. ;)
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In none of those appearances did he look like Tobey Macquire either.But I think it's stupid to say that Peter Parkers race matters when there is nothing in any of the spider-man comics that deals with peter parkers race.Well, nothing except the way he looks and has looked in literally thousands of appearances in his own comics, various spin offs and crossovers, TV Shows, movies, cartoons and childrens books. Yeah, but besides that, absolutely nothing that ties him to any particular race.
That’s right. We seem to be able to accept all sorts of differences in appearance in different portrayals of popular characters (with only mild fan rage), but a change in skin colour, race seems to be a step too far for most people. Kind of sad.
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Why is it okay that the Prince of Persia can be white when Peter Parker can't be black?His point is this; in the games, the Prince of Persia was, you know, Persian.
A bit of a tangent here, but is the titular character in Prince of Persia actually meant to be of Persian / Iranian ethnicity?
I haven’t played any of the Prince of Persia games since the original one came out in 1980-something (or was it the early 90s?), but I seem to remember the blurb on the box or at the beginning of the game describing the character as ‘a young foreigner’ who fell in love with the Princess. I also seem to remember the character in the game (PC version) having blonde hair. Am I mis-remembering or thinking of a different game?
My point is, while Hollywood has an ignoble history of casting actors of ethnicity x in a role portraying characters of ethnicity y, and while the Prince of Persia movie is doubtless guilty of this in the case of many other characters, I’m not sure that they’ve necessarily gone against the tradition of the game by casting a Caucasian actor as the titular Prince.
I'm pretty sure the movie is based on the newer Ubisoft games where the Prince is definitely Persian and not the original where no one could tell anyway.
That’s right. We seem to be able to accept all sorts of differences in appearance in different portrayals of popular characters (with only mild fan rage), but a change in skin colour, race seems to be a step too far for most people. Kind of sad.In none of those appearances did he look like Tobey Macquire either.But I think it's stupid to say that Peter Parkers race matters when there is nothing in any of the spider-man comics that deals with peter parkers race.Well, nothing except the way he looks and has looked in literally thousands of appearances in his own comics, various spin offs and crossovers, TV Shows, movies, cartoons and childrens books. Yeah, but besides that, absolutely nothing that ties him to any particular race.
You have got to be kidding. Are you really going to make the argument, with a straight face, that race shouldn't matter because any particular actors facial features aren't an exact match to a comic book illustration? That's the most pathetically weak argument, I think in the history of weak arguments. Wow... I'm sorry it took so long, but I just realized I am completely wasting my time here.
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I'm pretty sure the movie is based on the newer Ubisoft games where the Prince is definitely Persian and not the original where no one could tell anyway.
Very likely it is. I’m not familiar with the newer games, but it does make sense that the ‘Prince of Persia’ might indeed be Persian in some of these games! I remembered hearing years back that the idea for a Prince of Persia movie was being bandied about, and at that time (so I heard) it was going to be based on the original game, but chances are they changed that somewhere along the way, or that project fell through and another was born or something like that.
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Why is it okay that the Prince of Persia can be white when Peter Parker can't be black?His point is this; in the games, the Prince of Persia was, you know, Persian. In Avatar, the characters were not-Inuit/Buddhist/Japanese/Chinese. Peter Parker is originally Caucasian. If you're not going to care about a character's race for one movie adaptation, you'd be a damn hypocrite if you cared about it for a different adaptation.
that's not true as some characters race is a definitely improtant part, the prince of persia should be cast with a persian actor. In avatar, it's a fictional world, there IS no defining race, so it doesn't matter who's cast. With peter parker race has absolutely nothing to do with what makes the character, so any race is suitable.
The hypocrites are the ones who will not go see a black peter parker when they've seen the eight billion hollywood movies that have cast a white guy when another race was supposed to be portrayed. Not the people arguing that if race isn't an important aspect of the character than it shouldn't matter who is cast.
And yes a character who's race doesn't matter is a completely separate issue from a character who's race does matter. Once again, Black Panther, Thor, Rage etc. need to be cast as a certain race. But speedball, Spiderman, Night Thrasher, these are characters who's race has absolutely no bearing on the issue of casting.
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You have got to be kidding. Are you really going to make the argument, with a straight face, that race shouldn't matter because any particular actors facial features aren't an exact match to a comic book illustration? That's the most pathetically weak argument, I think in the history of weak arguments. Wow... I'm sorry it took so long, but I just realized I am completely wasting my time here.That’s right. We seem to be able to accept all sorts of differences in appearance in different portrayals of popular characters (with only mild fan rage), but a change in skin colour, race seems to be a step too far for most people. Kind of sad.In none of those appearances did he look like Tobey Macquire either.But I think it's stupid to say that Peter Parkers race matters when there is nothing in any of the spider-man comics that deals with peter parkers race.Well, nothing except the way he looks and has looked in literally thousands of appearances in his own comics, various spin offs and crossovers, TV Shows, movies, cartoons and childrens books. Yeah, but besides that, absolutely nothing that ties him to any particular race.
Not quite as weak as, well he has to be played by a white guy because he's always been played by a white guy.
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Not quite as weak as, well he has to be played by a white guy because he's always been played by a white guy.
Correction: He's not only always been PLAYED by a white guy, he's always BEEN a white guy.
Oh, and he's also one of the most iconic fictional characters EVER.
EDIT: In regards to the Prince of Persia: I've never really played any of the games. But in the movie the character is the son of the king BY ADOPTION. The king was impressed with the guts of a orphaned street kid that he saw running around one day, and adopted him. So his race, at least in the movie, isn't that big a deal.
There's also the little fact that the Prince is in no way anywhere near as iconic as Spider-Man. Who, I will reiterate, is one of the most iconic fictional characters EVER.
By the way, there's another good reason to reject Donald Glover other than his race...he's also too old. The reboot will be based on Ultimate Spider-Man, where Peter is a high school freshman, aged 15-16. Glover is approximately twice that. I know that Hollywood tends to cast older for such young parts, but I'd still like to keep the actor in the range of 18ish for plausibility reasons.
If I were in charge of casting:
Logan Lerman for Peter Parker/Spider-Man
Molly C. Quinn for Mary Jane Watson
Taylor Momsen for Gwen Stacy
Michael Ironside for Norman Osborne
Logan Lerman was an early favorite for the role. Dunno if he's still being considered, but he seems to be a decent actor, and looks great for the part. Molly C. Quinn can be seen on ABC's Castle playing the part of Nathan Fillion's daughter. She's gorgeous and redheaded, and I think she could pretty easily capture MJ's character (not all that far away from the role she plays on Castle). Before you blast the idea of Taylor Momsen as Gwen, remember that this is Ultimate Gwen. She's a lot edgier than the 616 version. And I've been wanting Michael Ironside to play Norman Osborne since at least the mid-80s.
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If I were in charge of casting:
Logan Lerman for Peter Parker/Spider-Man
Molly C. Quinn for Mary Jane Watson
Taylor Momsen for Gwen Stacy
Michael Ironside for Norman Osborne
+infinity on Molly C. Quinn.
I don't know ultimate MJ (or much of the ultimates) but I still like Jordan Hinson for 616 Gwen (just kill her in the second movie please)
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+infinity on Molly C. Quinn.I don't know ultimate MJ (or much of the ultimates) but I still like Jordan Hinson for 616 Gwen (just kill her in the second movie please)
Dunno who Jordan Hinson is. A quick google image search revealed a pretty blonde, but I expected nothing less for someone who had been suggested for Gwen. Just curios, why do you want Gwen to die? Personally, I think that because Gwen is so famous for dying, and MJ is so famous for ending up with Peter, they could actually best gain the emotional impact that a death to someone that close to Peter SHOULD have by killing MJ instead.
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Not quite as weak as, well he has to be played by a white guy because he's always been played by a white guy.
Oh, and he's also one of the most iconic fictional characters EVER.
Okay I'm sorry, yeah spiderman is an icon, but most iconic fictional character ever, lets not delude ourselves.
Superman is more iconic than spiderman.
Huckleberry Finn is more iconic than superman.
Romeo is more iconic than superman (want me to link you to at least one black person playing the role of Romeo, cause believe me it isn't hard.
Spiderman, on a guage of most Iconic fictional characters ever rates at about a 3 on a scale of ten.
and this is as a kid who grew up with spiderman. Hell I used to own the first appearance of morbius. I like spiderman as much as anyone, but there is absolutely NO reason spiderman is white. absolutely none. Spiderman is a character, and whoever can best portray the character is the best to do so, regardless of race. And I reiterate that there's no reason anyone here can give to make peter parker white, other than "he's always been played by a white guy" whether in the comics, or on the big screen. But you can replace the same argument with Romeo, but there's no reason romeo needs to be white either, and a quick web search will reveal black people who have played romeo
most iconic fictional character EVAR, puhlease.
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EDIT: In regards to the Prince of Persia: I've never really played any of the games. But in the movie the character is the son of the king BY ADOPTION. The king was impressed with the guts of a orphaned street kid that he saw running around one day, and adopted him. So his race, at least in the movie, isn't that big a deal.
Well, if that's the case (you'll have to forgive me I'm not familiar with the videogame mythos, so I have no point of refrence) then any person of any ethnicity CAN play the prince of persia and I'll watch it without complaint. You aren't going to catch me with some catch 22, you'll see my opinion is the same across the boards. There's a thread about prince of persia where I've stated it's a whitewash, and someone said the same thing happened in the last airbender and my response was that the last airbender is a fictional world. I.E. okay to have whoever is the best fit. But that the prince of persia should be cast by a persian. Because I'm not wishy washy about this. If race is a factor, it's important, but if race has nothing to do with it, (or in the instance of the prince of persia or the last samurai it's explained why another ethnicity is there) then race has nothing to do with it, and I've yet to hear a single instance where peter parkers race had anything to do with his character.
So the argument boils down to, "I don't like peter parker being played by a non-white, because he's never been played by a non-white."
and until there's someone who can say something other than that, lets face it the reason you aren't going to stomach a black Peter Parker has nothing to do with the fact that there's a compelling reason for him to be any race.
and the cast of that seventies show was cast by people my age or older, so can we drop the argument that he's too old, since at the time of that seventies show, I was in my mid 20s. and that was a hit show. and if a 16 year old indian kid could portray the character of peter parker beter than any white kid around you'd still claim that he shouldn't get the part, so lets not bring age into this argument.