No but given that shows history it was more like Hollywood SAmauri vs. Hollywood Spartan
Nice to watch at times to see them test the weapons but little else
It's a fun show,and that was a good episode..but wasn't it spartan vs ninja?... I can't believe they didn't do Pirate vs. Ninja.
It's a fun show,and that was a good episode..but wasn't it spartan vs ninja?... I can't believe they didn't do Pirate vs. Ninja.
They did Spartan vs. Samurai this season.
Oh crap.. a new season started?!
So who won?
Did the Samurai spar the Spartan until the ninja backstabbed him or did the ninja wait until the first fight ended and then did in the surivivor?
Entire show is pure trash. I watched a few episodes when they did their marathon of it leading to season two. Pretty pathetic. The way they all fanned over the Yumi's "incredible" accuracy, and the "incredible" power of the katana when they had a 6'6 270lb guy swinging it at an unmoving target.
Seeing the effects of various weapons on body mock ups is the only thing worth while. Don't take any of their nonsense to heart.
Agreed, but even the weapon tests are very inconsistent Oh we'll use gel on this one, and test this one on a pig! what we'll use meat with skulls for this one...and oh ice a block of ice shaped like a head for this one!. Still the ballistic gel ones are neat to watch. But the show itself is junk other then that.
One final note.
Anyone that concludes a Samurai warrior would consistently overcome a Viking is a moron. You're talking about someone with superior experience against diverse threats, much greater reach, greater strength, and less formalized fighting, against someone who as a warrior culture spent a thousand years developed their own ritualized standards and techniques.
I have seen a few shows; it is pretty much garbage; I saw the one with the IRA vs the Taliban; lol, as if the IRA's main weapons in a straight up fight are knives and slingshots. The important thing about those were stealth and ability to hide the weapons to blend into crowdes; but what happens in there test; head to head fighting in a junkyard; pretty stupid. I generally like the weapons demonstrations and stylistic themes the parties in question tend to use as strategy; but the mock combat at the end is garbage.
I have seen others like SWAT vs the German police force; where intervies with SWAT guys say they get less training much more more in the field hands on training which they believe gives them the edge; but its all bunk; these guys hardly take on anyone with much brains to prepare a defense strategy; seems like they just shoot unprepared people in their houses. Why in the world this show would try to call either of these groups soldiers is beyond me; if either of these group took on some real soldiers they would get trashed. Easy claim your tuff when you have a huge team to outnumber your opponent and fight fairly untrained civilians. I have read a few of their cases like that fiasco in Texas, where they shot a lot of unarmed little kids and mothers. yea, tuff guys NOT! They let the national guard and use tanks to take on real opponents. Keep in mind of course that police style people have a much different goal and training from a soldier; but I wish the show would be more precise; soldiers are trained to adapt and overcome any obstacle or foe and destroy thier enemy and enemies will to fight. Argueably; police special officers have a much harder task of usually trying to talk a known offender into surrendering; and waiting and basically starving a person out in order to take them alive as prisoners. This black ops police stuff of bashing someones house down without even announcing who you are is just plain tryanny and illegal entry; search and seizure; but enough on that. Its really a sad state of affairs here in the US with the police and the garbage I have seen; I lived in Germany for two years; and I thought their police forces were amazing; really, they were highly educated; eloquent; direct; polite; and seemed to always use the right amount of force for a situation. But really; what do I know; I am not a police insider and dont know all the issues, but I know a lot about being a soldier and soldiers they are not, but that is I believe just how the show tries to gain the interest of viewers. What I do know if they keep giving our police force "calm down" and anti violence training; hehe there is a reason our Mayor told the show Cops they cant come back to film here and even a better reason why Cops came here so many times and would love to come back.
hehe want to interest me; have this swat team and its usual backup go against the 101 or the 82nd or Marine recon teams; now that would be interesting. Watching who can invade a home and shoot people who only give sporatic resistance is hardly interesting.
anyway, enough of the soapbox; some of the matchups I have seen on the show are not in line with what I have read in historic files; like that of the American Indians; the bow they had on the show was nothing like what I ahve read about; they make the Indian bow much like the power of a yew bow from Wales and all powerful and stuff; but everything I have read says it was not very strong and had only a short range. Little inconsistancies like that and failure to quote there sources so we can check their material really bugs me; have to resort to Jane's books on various hardware.
That show about the Viking and Samuri; that was ludicrous. I have read a whole lot of stuff about Scandanavia, and those who go a Viking; keep in mind that Viking is a verb, it is something you do; not a people. One of the things they left out is the usefulness of the Viking axe; these guys could throw those things and take off peoples legs; take off horses legs; and carries a few of them to deadly effect. As for martial prowess with swords; sure the Samuri has the edge, as they also have the edge with their longer bow; but those who went a Viking had excellent bows and archers; an had much more experience fighing a wide variety of opponents; like scandaavian warriors fought in Europe proper; England; the Near East; the Middle East; Africa, Russia; heck and at one time special guard to the Eastern Roman Empire in Constantinople. Samuri, well, they pretty much fought samuri over and over and over, all using the same tactics and tools and they became very specialized; and well; had vast numbers; vast. In the beginning or height of Viking raids; about the year 1000; their strength was in quick ruthless raids against unarmed, unorganized people; hard to compare that with two samuri miliatry commanders fighting a battle in the open field.
I do like the weapons tests; that is a worthwhile thing' but on hole; would rather watch Firepower on the Military channel.
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The show is bunk. They tested the katana against cheap butted mail and it failed to do anything to the pig under the mail. And this was even before padding added under the mail. And yes, according to the test results, the katana got a good chunk of kills. Also during the pirate vs knight, they tested the grendaire and came to the conclusion that it is non fatal and yet their test racked up some kills.
And even the cutting of the ballistic gel dummy is suspect because the quality of some of those weapons is different as they don´t get historically accurate replicas and the skill of some of the people they use is quite suspect. John Clements when he cut with the viking sword on dummy made me cringe. He´s the head of ARMA and I know he can cut with longswords quite well...but with an arming sword, it seems he´s quite trash at it.
Well, I would like Balfic to get in on this; he has seen a lot of these shows, and I think he likes them and is up on his history though he wasnt a soldier like me; would value his two cents. I tuned into the Maggia episode he told me about and thought that the edge of the baseball bat as the Maggia weapon that put them over the edge was worth smiling about; I forget who they were squared off against; was it the Yakuza?
I watched all of season one. Haven't had a chance to see season two yet. While the show is entertaining. It is by no means accurate. I take its findings with a beer and pretzels attitude. If you want to watch a more serious series dealing with what weapons, and tactics different warrior cultures used. I recommend watching Terry Schapperts series from History Channel. Deadliest Warrior is dumbed down for prime time television. While William Wallace vs Shaka Zulu brings in ratings. I would rather watch a show pitting Alexander The Great, Hannibal, and Sun Tzu against each other.
Yeah, I liked his old show: Mail Call; great stuff; havent seen the new one, of course, I dont have cable or satelitte atm; guess I gotta wait for netflix
It is nice to see some of the more exotic weapons being wielded instead of just a drawing on a page and my next Barbarian will definitely be wielding a Taiaha. It might make a good Druid weapon as it is Wood and Jade.
Oh and this season will include Attila the Hun vs Alexander the Great this week and Vlad the Impaler vs Sun Tzu near the end of the season.
LOL
I hope they have more realistic matchups next season. Something like Godzilla vs. Voltron and Kirk vs. Ramses III. :)
well tonight is Attila vs. Hannibal any bets?
I would bet on Attila because the first one listed in the episode title is aleays the winner.
Attila with the recurve bow for the win.
@Xuttah, next season is Rainbow Bright vs Strawberry Shortcake...
With Papa Smurf doing the weapons test.
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Sword of Mars????
I didn't know Attila played D&D.
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I watched all of season one. Haven't had a chance to see season two yet. While the show is entertaining. It is by no means accurate. I take its findings with a beer and pretzels attitude.
Yeah, I feel the same way. It's cool to see the exotic weapons and how they were used in combat, many of which I had never heard of. It's funny how upset people are getting about the methods used to test the warriors or the final results, it's not like they actually mean anything!
I watched all of season one. Haven't had a chance to see season two yet. While the show is entertaining. It is by no means accurate. I take its findings with a beer and pretzels attitude.Yeah, I feel the same way. It's cool to see the exotic weapons and how they were used in combat, many of which I had never heard of. It's funny how upset people are getting about the methods used to test the warriors or the final results, it's not like they actually mean anything!
I feel similarly, but not exactly the same way you do, CJ(It's not like it's Joss Whedon, where you and I are the last line of defense against his..."creativity" :-) ). I take the show a little seriously, and I feel they are accurate on some counts, but far from all. The computer program they are using is little more than a killshot program and does not allow for tactics, hindering/crippling/follow-up strikes, or anything like that.
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3 newborn kittens vs. Starscream (even match)
Hmmm... not sure actually... I mean have you accounted for the fact that Starcream has a 95% chance per encounter to self-monologue himself into a gun-shooting stupor where he will in 95% of times shoot a cliff and cause a burying landslide unto himself? :)
I want to see Hulk Hogan as Santa vs. The Rock Tooth Fairy
Epic!!!!
Now that one was good!
Aztec Jaguar Warrior vs African Zande Warrior
Got to see an Atlatl (Spear Thrower) and a Kpinga (or Hunga Munga) throwing blade in use.
And that Obsidian Chip Macuahuitl Blade made me wonder, can a non-magical weapon have a magical special ability like Wounding?
hehe we all know that Goldberg is Santa; so cant be Hulk Hogan; sheesh; havent you seen the movie Santa Slay; hehe; I think that was the name of it.
Attila vs Hannibal; hmm interesting. I think Attila has the edge as he was centuries laters and has better equipment and all the training Rome could give him.
Xuttah; hehe your a nut; love it.
Who cast True Resurection?