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Pretty straightforward.
Cleric is Grappled, then Pinned.
Can said Cleric use their Channels while in this state?
Grapple/Pinned restrict spell casting with material or somatic gestures, but RAW doesn't exactly say that Channeling requires the hands.
Channeling does mention 'presenting ' a Holy Symbol, however...
Bit of a Gray area, any help appreciated.
-Uriel
I'd rule "maybe" in grappled condition (with a concentration check or escape artist check to present holy symbol), and "no" in pinned condition.
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Rule: #0 If you're the DM, just make the ruling and move on.
It's a totally reasonable ruling, as well.
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Oh, guess I didn't spell it out clearly.
I'm not the GM. 2 players (Also boyfriend/girlfriend) getting ready/ battling with different characters for the Gencon Power Gamer PvP game... so I'm not in a position to Rule 0.
FWIW, I agree that Pinned defiantly stops it, with Grappled possibly doing so likewise.
Just trying to get them an official answer, since a fair number of their character choices seem to be very Grapple heavy...
-Uriel
Oh, guess I didn't spell it out clearly.
I'm not the GM. 2 players (Also boyfriend/girlfriend) getting ready/ battling with different characters for the Gencon Power Gamer PvP game... so I'm not in a position to Rule 0.
FWIW, I agree that Pinned defiantly stops it, with Grappled possibly doing so likewise.
Just trying to get them an official answer, since a fair number of their character choices seem to be very Grapple heavy...-Uriel
If that's the case, just give your cleric the Liberation domain and laugh in their faces when they try to grapple you.
This is an interesting question.
If I were the DM, I would rule the channel works if pinned or grappled.
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"Supernatural Abilities: These can't be disrupted in combat and generally don't provoke attacks of opportunity."
The Channel Energy ability says the cleric can channel through his/her holy symbol but says nothing about it needing to be in hand.
Also, the ability affects an area not something directional like a line or a cone.
TLO3 is correct about the liberation domain making the grappled condition irrelevant.
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The grappled condition states:
Instead of attempting to break or reverse the grapple, you can take any action that requires only one hand to perform, such as cast a spell or make an attack with a light or one-handed weapon against any creature within your reach, including the creature that is grappling you.
The pinned condition is "a more severe version of grappled, and their effects do not stack".
The pinned condition states:
A pinned creature can take verbal and mental actions, but cannot cast any spells that require a somatic or material component.
The channeled energy ability states:
A cleric must be able to present her holy symbol to use this ability.
So really, we have to know whether or not presenting a holy symbol is considered an action. If it is not an action, then you can channel energy while pinned. If it is an action, then it is not on the list of things you can do while pinned.
However, this is undefined in Pathfinder. In fact, depending on how you wield a holy symbol, "presenting" a holy symbol can be an action (in your pocket) or not (on stitched/painted/etc. your gloves/shield/tunic/etc. -- tattooed on your forehead -- wrapped around your hand). In the cases where the holy symbol is being presented at all times, then you should be able to channel energy -- as at that point it is effectively a mental action (although this is not explicitly defined in the rules). This might be a problem for a cleric who does not wish to have his/her holy symbol presented at all times (e.g. an evil cleric in a good land).
Assuming a cleric does not wish to hide his/her holy symbol and keeps the holy symbol out at all times, I see no reason to disallow a cleric from channeling energy while pinned.