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Hope this is better than XII. Tried 2x to get through the game, but Im not a fan of Ivalice and found the characters dull compared to older FF games.

No matter how old I get though, I still enjoy the guilty pleasure/ nostalgiac rpg romp of a Squaresoft game. Sigh.

Any other Square fans?


Add me to that list of fans. My copy of FFXIII is on order.

I didn't care for FF12 that much either. It was graphically quite pleasing, I admit. But of the characters, Vaan was pointless, the princess was so-so, Penelo was the annoying tagalong, Basch was the loyal guard; only Fran and Balthier were in any way interesting. I played it, did a lot of the extra stuff, got tired of trying to get the last 2 summons and getting creamed with my level 84 party, beat it. Nearly got demolished by the boss too, despite my overleveling. Give me FFX among the more recent Final Fantasies, or 6 or 7 if I want older but very good games.


Midnight release. I'm very looking forward to it. :-D

Though I agree XII was not a great installment. Hopefully this one is better.


Sunderstone wrote:

Hope this is better than XII. Tried 2x to get through the game, but Im not a fan of Ivalice and found the characters dull compared to older FF games.

No matter how old I get though, I still enjoy the guilty pleasure/ nostalgiac rpg romp of a Squaresoft game. Sigh.

Any other Square fans?

Born and raised on Square (Super Mario RPG, Im looking at you!). Final Fantasy XII was an entertaining game, but it was definitely a departure from the FF feel, from what I've read and seen, I think XIII will be the same---a good game, but probably feeling less and less like FF of yore.

Im excited for the game, will gobble it up, probably 100% it for sake of tradition, but I dont think the game is going to be the end-all-be-all a lot of people are expecting.

Edit: Hopefully I'm wrong and have to eat my words!

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How could it be XIII when there are only 11 Final Fantasy games?

Spoiler:

You're damn right I'm being crotchety and not acknowldging Final Fantasy Online as Final Fantasy XI. If we're going to count that, we should count Tactics, Tactics Advance, Crystal Chronicles, etc. and be up to Final Fantasy XVII or something already. Whoever designated Final Fantasy Online as Final Fantasy XI should be beaten with a ribbon until they cry like a chocobo. I know I'm being anal retentive, but damnit, the core Final Fantasy series is a single player game. I should be able to own them all and play them all without needing to pay a subscription fee or have a server maintained or see characters named "longdong12!!#".


Sebastian wrote:

How could it be XIII when there are only 11 Final Fantasy games?

** spoiler omitted **

Then your going to hate the fact that FFXIV is supposed to come out in the next year or so and it's the next online game...

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Stewart Perkins wrote:
Sebastian wrote:

How could it be XIII when there are only 11 Final Fantasy games?

** spoiler omitted **

Then your going to hate the fact that FFXIV is supposed to come out in the next year or so and it's the next online game...

Mother f*#~ers!


Sebastian wrote:
Stewart Perkins wrote:
Sebastian wrote:

How could it be XIII when there are only 11 Final Fantasy games?

** spoiler omitted **

Then your going to hate the fact that FFXIV is supposed to come out in the next year or so and it's the next online game...
Mother f*##ers!

On the upside, FFXI was the finest MMORPG I ever played. I am eagerly looking forward to a fresh start with XIV.

BUT... I do agree, the online games should not have been included in the 'official' series.


Sebastian wrote:
Stewart Perkins wrote:
Sebastian wrote:

How could it be XIII when there are only 11 Final Fantasy games?

** spoiler omitted **

Then your going to hate the fact that FFXIV is supposed to come out in the next year or so and it's the next online game...
Mother f@*@ers!

*Pats Sebastian on the back* There, there it will be alright...


Well, don't forget the upcoming Final Fantasy Versus XIII and Final Fantasy Agito XIII, too (both set in the same universe, but in different worlds than the 'regular' XIII - Versus would be only for PS3, apparently, and Agito only for the PSP). Check the Fabula Nova Crystallis project here.

I am a big fan of Squaresoft, most of their games are still in my personal top list - Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana (Seiken Densetsu II), Seiken Densetsu III, Final Fantasy VII, Parasite Eve, Xenogears, Final Fantasy Tactics, Vagrant Story, Chrono Cross, Parasite Eve II, Final Fantasy X, Drakengard, Drakengard II, Valkrie Profile II.
(I know that FFVI is one of the most praised title, but I've never had the chance to finish it)

Sadly, not all of their FFs gave me the same impression:

- FFVIII, I hated so much ('Wee, we are young teenagers who grew together but forgot everything because of the Junctions with our Guardian Forces ! What, the world is in danger ? By a big, bad Witch ? Oooh, scary - but who cares, let's forge a bound of love and friendship with our cute, angelic witch (which COULD POSSIBLY BE the very same Ultimecia in an Alternate timeline...))
- FFIX was not bad (I am even tempted to put in the list of good games), but the final boss seemed 'tacked on' - that, and the entire 'Zidane Tribal-saiyajin' thing... But Vivi was very good ! (...and Quina was horrible...)
- FFX-2 was terrible. I mean, Rikku was very hot (she jumped from 'cute' to gorgeous in only two years... go, Rikku, go !) and Yuna was cute, and Paine was... ok, there was also Paine. But, aside from the 'cosplay-fest', the whole 'Charlie's Angels Final Fantasy' thing was... duh... (however, the 'Dorombo Gang' played by the Leblanc Syndicate - the gorgeous lady, the slim guy, and the big guy - was fun).
- FFXII was technically flawless, but the story was... bland. One of the key factors surely is that originally the main character should have been Basch, and that Vaan and Penelo were practically added as 'teenager protagonists' only later (see here)... However, Balthier and Fran were good characters. But, come on ! No true Summons ? The Espers were totally lame !!!

However, I am planning to empty my wallet tomorrow to buy XIII and see how it is... I hope very good !!!


Is combat still the turn based team lineup like the older versions?


Xabulba wrote:
Is combat still the turn based team lineup like the older versions?

Combat is similar to what it has been for the last several games. With an 'Active Time Bar' that fills. It fills quickly though so the fights are pretty fast paced.

I've played an hour or so and it seems good. The HD graphics are amazing, I wish I had a 50" or so screen to play it on. The first cutscene and play sequence is on a train. Nice nod to VII. Actually, the world has a lot of similarities to Midgar. At least the little bit that I've seen.

A couple of low points, it is painfully obvious that it was not scored by Nobuo Uematsu. The music isn't horrible, but it just doesn't quite measure up. The voice acting is mostly alright, nothing to win any awards over, but there is one character that makes me cringe every time he opens his mouth. He also seems to be the comic relief character which... well it was an odd choice in this PC world we live in, that's all I'll say about that for now.

Judging by the little bit that I have played, I think fans of the series will like it, but I don't see this one gaining a lot of new blood. Seems better than XII and that's good, but I don't think it measures up to the classics like X, VII or VI.


Wolfthulhu wrote:
but I don't think it measures up to the classics like X, VII or VI.

The fact that X was a classic in most people's minds still blows my mind. I hated that game. Couldn't get past the first 4 hours before turning the PS2 off, Titus just annoyed me. That was actually when I stopped even paying attention to the FF series, and when I heard XI was gonna be an MMORPG, I just stopped caring.

Anyway, I'm bored at work, so I think I might go start another FF VII game.


ChrisRevocateur wrote:
Wolfthulhu wrote:
but I don't think it measures up to the classics like X, VII or VI.

The fact that X was a classic in most people's minds still blows my mind. I hated that game. Couldn't get past the first 4 hours before turning the PS2 off, Titus just annoyed me. That was actually when I stopped even paying attention to the FF series, and when I heard XI was gonna be an MMORPG, I just stopped caring.

Anyway, I'm bored at work, so I think I might go start another FF VII game.

To be honest, I find it odd that people have such fascination with VII. I only included it because it is so popular. My personal top three would be IV, VI and X.

I am curious why someone who 'stopped caring' would bother to read/post in this thread though, but I guess that's just me.

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Wolfthulhu wrote:

To be honest, I find it odd that people have such fascination with VII. I only included it because it is so popular. My personal top three would be IV, VI and X.

+1. I've always felt VII was a decent entry, but a lot of people seem to think it's the best FF game in the series. Those people are seriously delusional. VI is my all time favorite, but IV is a very close second and X gets a nod for being the best post-NES FF.

But VII? No, not so much.

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Sebastian wrote:
Wolfthulhu wrote:

To be honest, I find it odd that people have such fascination with VII. I only included it because it is so popular. My personal top three would be IV, VI and X.

+1. I've always felt VII was a decent entry, but a lot of people seem to think it's the best FF game in the series. Those people are seriously delusional. VI is my all time favorite, but IV is a very close second and X gets a nod for being the best post-NES FF.

But VII? No, not so much.

Wow, this is bizarrely close to my own experience. FFIV and FFVI are a bit closer for me, and I still have a deep love for the first one for being such an insane setting.

FFVII was okay for me, but I've long been bugged by how much more attention it gets even to this day, although the fact that FFIV recently got a sequel eases some of that irritation.

Still, the only FF I can honestly say I hated was FFVIII. It was like everything I hated about JRPG heroes at the time rolled up into a cast whose only purpose in the game was to make me rage. I think back on it now, and honestly the only people I remember liking were Laguna(because he wasn't Squall) and Edea(because of the character design....and what she did to Squall).

Seriously, say what you want about Tidus; he may have dressed and acted like a clown, but he and Zidane were both a breath of fresh air after that...that....

...

Ellipsis abuser. Yeah, that.

STILL haven't played FFXII. I really need to.

I really think a big part of my burnout with FF is due to Tetsuya Nomura's character designs. I know it's hypocritical to complain about considering that Paine is one of my favorite FF designs, but hot damn the guy needs to learn what "restraint" is and rein his bloody belt and zipper fetish in.

I miss Yoshitaka Amano, is all I'm saying. And that's a hell of a thing if you can complain about someone's character designs being more garish than his.

Case in point. What the hell, Nomura?

Cautiously eager about FFXIII, mostly because it supposedly has a tough female lead with a spine. Also, Sahz.

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Mikaze wrote:
although the fact that FFIV recently got a sequel eases some of that irritation.

Okay, only made it part way through your post, but FFIV HAS A SEQUEL!!!! For what platform?!?!?!

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Sebastian wrote:
Mikaze wrote:
although the fact that FFIV recently got a sequel eases some of that irritation.
Okay, only made it part way through your post, but FFIV HAS A SEQUEL!!!! For what platform?!?!?!

Before you get too excited, don't get too excited. :)

Final Fantasy 4: The After Years

IIRC, it started as a serial release for mobile phones in Japan only. We finally got it collected in English, but for the Wii only(and only in a downloadable format).

As far as I know, not having played it yet, it looks and plays close to the old SNES FFs. It's set quite a bit after the original game.

I can't speak for the quality of the gameplay or the story, but hey, FF4 sequel. Who'da thunk it?

The actual FF4 was recently remade for the Nintendo DS, btw.

(You should get a Wii anyway if only to play Eternal Darkness and Resident Evil 4(okay, you could play those on a Gamecube too....but Silent Hill: Shattered Memories can't!)

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Mikaze wrote:


IIRC, it started as a serial release for mobile phones in Japan only. We finally got it collected in English, but for the Wii only(and only in a downloadable format).

Oooh! I'lve have to figure out how to do that one the Wii...

Mikaze wrote:


The actual FF4 was recently remade for the Nintendo DS, btw.

Yeah, I suffer from a disabling brain condition which causes me to purchase any and all pre-FFVII rereleases. I just noticed that FFI and FFII are available on the iPhone for $8-9 each. I already own the PS1 rerelease and the GBA rerelease of these games. And yet, I'm seriously contemplating buying them for the iPhone as well.

I should be medicated...

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Ketamine?

Silver Crusade

Sebastian wrote:
Mikaze wrote:


IIRC, it started as a serial release for mobile phones in Japan only. We finally got it collected in English, but for the Wii only(and only in a downloadable format).

Oooh! I'lve have to figure out how to do that one the Wii...

I THINK it's readily available on their online store. I'm not certain, having never taken my Wii online due to not being able to be bothered with the wiring.

I really need to do that one day.

Also, sharing your pain on those rerelease buys. Pre-FF7 FF releases, Castlevanias, Zeldas, and point-and-click adventure collections clean me out every time.

edit-Good God I've left that FFIV preview site up on another window and the damn theme song is pumping weaponized pleasant memories into my brain.

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Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
Ketamine?

Hmmm...Special-K...


Sebastian wrote:
Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
Ketamine?
Hmmm...Special-K...

Ha-Haa!

It's a horse tranquilizer.


Sebastian wrote:
Wolfthulhu wrote:

To be honest, I find it odd that people have such fascination with VII. I only included it because it is so popular. My personal top three would be IV, VI and X.

+1. I've always felt VII was a decent entry, but a lot of people seem to think it's the best FF game in the series. Those people are seriously delusional. VI is my all time favorite, but IV is a very close second and X gets a nod for being the best post-NES FF.

But VII? No, not so much.

VII does have a good story, without question. But the graphics were hard on the eyes even back then and the gameplay was kinda wonky as well. All those 45 degree angles with a 4-way controller. C'mon, seriously?

IX remains the one title to date that I have not been able to finish. Something about Zidane just bugs me. Maybe it's the tail, I don't know. I really do need to go back and finish it one of these days. Maybe after I finish XIII.

Back to XIII. Having put in a few hours, I can say the story definitely meets FF expectations. The level advancement is similar to X & XII, but you can advance along several paths simultaneously. and freely switch between Jobs. There is a new mechanic that allows you to set the party's overall theme which in turn sets the characters jobs. All of these settings are customizable. The story advancement really feels like watching a movie. especially when the party is split up. the action switches between groups much like scenes from a film, even to the point of the last thing in one scene is shown as the first thing in another from the different perspective.

That's about all I can say without feeling like I need to spoiler tag things and I'm feeling to lazy to do so. Besides, game's on pause. Gotta go. ;-)

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Wolfthulhu wrote:

VII does have a good story, without question. But the graphics were hard on the eyes even back then and the gameplay was kinda wonky as well. All those 45 degree angles with a 4-way controller. C'mon, seriously?

What I disliked above VII was how it's story was such a step backwards from VI. I loved that VI had a large cast of characters, had segments where the party was split up, and told a bunch of cool stories at the same time. VII was all about how awesome Cloud was. The other characters were incidental at best. Plus, I missed the unique character commands from VI.

Maybe if Cloud hadn't been a douche, I would've liked VII better.

BTW, have you ever seen the Robot Chicken FFVII sketch? Hilarious.

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Mikaze wrote:


Also, sharing your pain on those rerelease buys. Pre-FF7 FF releases, Castlevanias, Zeldas, and point-and-click adventure collections clean me out every time.

Those have a pretty strong pull on me as well. Plus metroid...

Mikaze wrote:
weaponized pleasant memories

Awesome turn of phrase.


...And now I've bought XIII.

First impressions: technically is awesome. No, really. I cannot determine when CGA animated scenes end and Game Engine starts to play. I am not even remotely sure that there are effectively CGA scenes at all (maybe is ALL rendered )...

Story:

Spoiler:

you are caught 'in media res', there is a purge of 'supposedly-contaminated people' (the story explains why as the game progresses) which are expected to be cast off from their home-land, only to be slaughtered before leaving. And the cast of characters, each with their own personal agenda (most of which are still unknown... hey, I've been playing only for 3 hours !), are amidst the carnage and start to cooperate to survive and help other people to survive as well. I cannot explain more without spoilering too much, but it seems a 'Reverse FFVIII' situation - in VIII, people lived on Earth and monsters came from the Moon, here people live on an 'artificial satellite' (Cocoon) and monsters come from the Earth below (Pulse). So far, it has appeal.

Characters:

Spoiler:

the main heroine (Lightning) is... Cloud Strife !?! (no, seriously, that title goes to Aya Brea from Parasite Eve). She declares to be a former-soldier, speaks less than a brick wall, and starts... on a train !!! The main guy (Snow) reminds me of Irvine from FFVIII (one of the few characters I respected back then), a loud-mouth with a sensible heart - and his personal agenda, I respect it so much !!! Then there is the couple of teenagers (Hope and Vanille) - Hope seems a very young and crybaby Vaan from FFXII (and I already don't stand him, although his behavior is justified since... well, the tragedy he assists after 5 minutes you know him), Vanille reminds me of Rikku from FFX (when she was still 16), only a bit younger (14 at best) - but her stats are MONSTRUOUS (she has the hp of Lightning and Snow combined, for example !!!); obviously the girl has more than catches the eye. Finally (for now) Sazh, which has a little chicobo in his afro-hair and fights armed with a pair of guns... really, this guy seems that has just taken a vacation from GTA San Andreas !!! The 'not-bulky' version of Barrett Wallace, so far (in fact, he starts with Clou...I mean, Lightning !).

Only thing I don't completely understand... trophies ! Why on earth should you have TROPHIES in a FF ? To show people that you really defeated the various WEAPONS ?


Yea, I hear you on the pure fanboyishness of FFVII. For me FFVI is the lord of the games as far as that goes, my herald into rpgs and gaming in general it's like my first hit... The only reason I love FFVII is that it was a long time later and it was the first super graphics game I had ever played and it was my first PS1 game aswell... Note the graphics thing was for the time period. I dug VIII in essence and liked the sniper guy but man the storyline tanked in my opinion and gameplay was wierd, not to mention how much I hated the card game later... I love IX and feel it doesn't get enough praise for how good a game it really is, I liked X but could have lost Waka and the big monster dude honestly. XII was ok but modeling gameplay after an MMO for a single player was abad idea imo. Thems my two cents...

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Sebastian wrote:
What I disliked above VII was how it's story was such a step backwards from VI. I loved that VI had a large cast of characters, had segments where the party was split up, and told a bunch of cool stories at the same time. VII was all about how awesome Cloud was. The other characters were incidental at best. Plus, I missed the unique character commands from VI.

This a hundred times over.

It's such a small thing, but I hated the fact you could play through the game and NEVER use some of the characters... yet there they were in the cut scenes.
I loved the way in VI you had to use everyone... and pretty much everyone had their own mini storylines.

-J


Yeah VI was the cream of the crop.

If they could bring that feel to today's graphics I would not be on these boards... or at work... ever again.

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Jenner2057 wrote:

This a hundred times over.

It's such a small thing, but I hated the fact you could play through the game and NEVER use some of the characters... yet there they were in the cut scenes.
I loved the way in VI you had to use everyone... and pretty much everyone had their own mini storylines.

-J

Agreed, that's a big part of what made VI so fantastic. I really love IX because it brings some of that back with the multiple storylines going on simultaneously and the more "traditional" FF setting.

I thought XII was okay, but would really have appreciated more interesting characters. Balthier was the only one I actually cared about by the end of the game....

Looking forward to getting XIII with my next paycheck, but I'm really skeptical of an FF games that have soldier or ex-soldier characters. VIII has a TERRIBLE plot and I couldn't make it through the game, and I think VII is decent but way, way overvalued by a lot of fanboys. I'd definitely appreciate another return to form ala IV, V, VI, or IX.

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Jenner2057 wrote:


This a hundred times over.
It's such a small thing, but I hated the fact you could play through the game and NEVER use some of the characters... yet there they were in the cut scenes.
I loved the way in VI you had to use everyone... and pretty much everyone had their own mini storylines.

-J

I have such fond memories of taking Shadow into an inn and getting his flashbacks. I was like "WTF? Why'd that happen?" I took him to every damn inn in the game searching for more.


My favorite 5 square games of all time....

FFIII (or later renamed VI on the PSone)
Xenogears
Chrono Trigger
FFX (not crazy about the blue furry Rhonso character though)
FFVII

That said, I really liked VII alot but couldnt be arsed to go chocobo breeding for Knights of the Round, talk about tedious racing.

FFIV had a great story. I want to finish this one one day. This one had some really hard combats iirc.

I hated X-2 a.k.a. Charlie's Angels, mostly because it was a romp through the same areas of the first game. The Dress system made me feel fruity too.

I also cant stand Ivalice and the characters in XII were the worst bunch to date.

VIII - Not my thing, didnt like the Draw system at all. My friend raves about this one and Tactics, I dont see it.

I bought XIII but havent had time to mess with it yet, Ill take a spin tomorrow inbetween my work layover and see how it is. If its on par with X or better, Ill be happy.

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Sunderstone wrote:


FFIII (or later renamed VI on the PSone)

Uh...that's FFVI, renamed FFIII for the Supernes.


Potatoe- Potato
:)


Sunderstone wrote:

My favorite 5 square games of all time....

FFIII (or later renamed VI on the PSone)
Xenogears
Chrono Trigger

Cannot help but +1 this, those are some square's best games and if you added the SNES game version of Shadowrun (which wasn't consistent with the actual table top but was awesome none theless) and Super Mario Rpg, you may have my list of best games EVER...


Wolfthulhu wrote:

To be honest, I find it odd that people have such fascination with VII. I only included it because it is so popular. My personal top three would be IV, VI and X.

I am curious why someone who 'stopped caring' would bother to read/post in this thread though, but I guess that's just me.

The reason I liked VII is because of the story. Still one of my favorite RPG stories to this day. IV takes the cake though, but I don't have IV.

As for why I read/posted in this thread, you can blame extreme boredom at a very quiet job.

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Sunderstone wrote:

Potatoe- Potato

:)

See, this is the problem with American public schools. If the distinction between FFIII and FFIV isn't being adequately explained, I weep for the future of our children...


Ok I bought it and gave it a whirl.

On my TV the visuals are AMAZING!

I really like the story so far (about 4 hours in), and the build to the party actually joining. It did remind a bit of VI (or III as you will) with each group getting a little flavor.

[spoiler]Hope makes me want to slap him, and I hope he gets over the whiny crap soon. And Vanille's weapon confuses me.[/spolier]

So far it ranks up there, but will that continue? Not sure yet.


TheChozyn wrote:

Ok I bought it and gave it a whirl.

On my TV the visuals are AMAZING!

I really like the story so far (about 4 hours in), and the build to the party actually joining. It did remind a bit of VI (or III as you will) with each group getting a little flavor.

Spoiler:
Hope makes me want to slap him, and I hope he gets over the whiny crap soon. And Vanille's weapon confuses me.

So far it ranks up there, but will that continue? Not sure yet.

I'm about twice as far as you and he hasn't changed yet. Also:

Spoiler:
Don't get used to the party being together, after a pretty short time they split again. It's looking like they rejoin again later, but I have no idea if the pattern continues through the whole game.
The story is still pretty good. Good enough to forgive the railroady nature of game play. I mean really, the one big flaw I see so far is there have been absolutely no chances to jump the rails and go exploring, but to be fair that wouldn't make any sense with the current situation. Maybe when things calm down a bit.

Wolfthulhu wrote:
TheChozyn wrote:

Ok I bought it and gave it a whirl.

On my TV the visuals are AMAZING!

I really like the story so far (about 4 hours in), and the build to the party actually joining. It did remind a bit of VI (or III as you will) with each group getting a little flavor.

** spoiler omitted **

So far it ranks up there, but will that continue? Not sure yet.

I'm about twice as far as you and he hasn't changed yet. Also:** spoiler omitted **The story is still pretty good. Good enough to forgive the railroady nature of game play. I mean really, the one big flaw I see so far is there have been absolutely no chances to jump the rails and go exploring, but to be fair that wouldn't make any sense with the current situation. Maybe when things calm down a bit.

From your hints I believe that you are currently around Chapter Three, am I right ?

Spoiler:

when Snow stays behind trying to, uh, 'bring away' Serah...

However, this is a trademark of most Final Fantasy games. The very first hours of gameplay are usually railroaded, before the party has a chance to roam freely in the world (usually with some limitations of movement until they gain a better transport).

For example, in FFVII, there were 10+ hours of gameplay (if you explored like a madman - like me for example - trying to level up your characters and speaking with every single person in town - TWICE, to be sure they finished dialogue options) in Midgard, before finally having a chance to leave the metropolis and go in the wilderness. And you didn't have a chance to change your party (via PHS) until Kalm Town.

Another example, in FFVIII, you had to take your SeeD exams AND a couple of missions (plus the whole ballroom event AND the first rescue of Ellone in the Training Center during the night - stupid Squall, why didn't you woo Quistis instead !?!) before (finally) having the opportunity to explore the world.

So, I'm strongly convinced that the exploring part will come eventually in a couple of chapters (really, these first 'chapters' are more or less an excuse for 'forced save-games' and tutorial lessons).
After all,

Spoiler:

we had to wait until the beginning of Chapter Three to finally have Magic and the whole Paradigm System.

Silver Crusade

I'm on Chapter 5 and my least favorite character (that would be Hope-less) is getting his act together. Looks like there may be hope for him after all.

The most impressive thing for me thus far has been the Eidolons. So far two have appeared and those moments are nothing short of awesome.

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Don't expect to get off the ch00-choo train anytime soon. First 8-12 hours of the game involves running down one path to fight a boss and then view a cutscene.

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Jared Ouimette wrote:
Don't expect to get off the ch00-choo train anytime soon. First 8-12 hours of the game involves running down one path to fight a boss and then view a cutscene.

I'm over 12 hours in and I'm at Chapter 5. Are you grinding?


With has good as the game looks I have no problems with one path - cutscenes. Can't wait to get off work.


Just starting Chapter 7. Still just one rail. But I'm still enjoying the ride very much.

Spoiler:
Haven't played Snow since the split on the crystal lake, but he and the Lightning/Hope team are coming to the same place. He's gonna have a ton of CP to spend. Should be interesting to see how Hope reacts to him, especially considering Snows current company.

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Is something a spoiler if it happens within the first 10-15 minutes of gameplay?

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For those who are wondering about "making your own parties" and such.

Spoiler:
You don't get full control over who you use until around Chapter 11.

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Sebastian wrote:

How could it be XIII when there are only 11 Final Fantasy games?

** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
I think Odin surpasses you in ponypower in 13. You might want to watch out.

Jared Ouimette wrote:
Is something a spoiler if it happens within the first 10-15 minutes of gameplay?

I would say no under most circumstances. Can't think of anything in the fist bits here that are spoiler worthy. But that may not be the case with all games.

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