Simple Date Question


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No, I'm not asking about a night out with Paris Hilton.

What I'm finding is that a lot of the PF products reference historical events by years, but I'm having a hard time finding out what year it is now in the current release storyline of Golarion.

So, in the Cheliax book, which I have in my hands, the most recent event in the timeline is 4640, and apparently that was several generations ago. And I'm only skimming the book at the moment, but I can't find any reference to a current date. I also couldn't find this information available for ready reference in any of the books I have handy.

So what year is it?

Grand Lodge

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Whatever year you want? I don't think they pinned anything down yet so as to allow for flexibility.

Grand Lodge

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Christopher Dudley wrote:
So what year is it?

If I'm wrong, someone will be along to correct me and put me back in my cage, but i believe the current year is 4710. The years progress in game world just as they do in the real world, so one year of real life equals one year of game time. Our year 2000 AD is Golarion's year 4700 AR.

-Skeld

EDIT: TriO's right too. AP/module/adventure events aren't shackled tightly to dates, so you can change things however you like.

RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32

Skeld wrote:
Christopher Dudley wrote:
So what year is it?

If I'm wrong, someone will be along to correct me and put me back in my cage, but i believe the current year is 4710. The years progress in game world just as they do in the real world, so one year of real life equals one year of game time. Our year 2000 AD is Golarion's year 4700 AR.

-Skeld

EDIT: TriO's right too. AP/module/adventure events aren't shackled tightly to dates, so you can change things however you like.

OK. Thank you. I figured that was about what it was, but couldn't find reference to it anywhere. In The Sixfold Trial,

Spoiler:
The Asmodean Knot background story tells of "When the House of Thrune annexed Westcrown... 70 years ago," and the Cheliax Timeline says the house of Thrune ascended in 4640, and later in the Asmodean Knot entry it says the same year. But I didn't know if it was "Oh, about 70 years, I reckon" or "Exactly 70 years." So the AP is somewhat fixed in time.

So, thanks. And I do know that as DM, I can do whatever I want with the date. I was just asking what's official.

/thread.


According to the Campaign Setting (printed in 2008) the 'current' year is 4708 AR. I'm unclear on if the official 'current' year has been advanced since.


The years continue to advance even though there are no major events to mark them. The main place where the year is official is in the Pathfinder Society version of Golarion, even though the year does not affect how you play through the scenarios. Also, if you were following the posts in the Kingmaker AP thread, that AP is designed so that many years of game time will pass as you play through all six parts, even though it may take you much less real time to finish it, so I do not know what impact that would have on the timeline for your home version of Golarion. You could start that AP in the current year to be finished sometime in the distant future or you could have the starting year be 10 or 15 years in the past and your group's current characters could go and visit the kingdom created in the past by another batch of your group's characters.

RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32

Thanks for the further updates. I appreciate the info.


Christopher Dudley wrote:
Skeld wrote:
Christopher Dudley wrote:
So what year is it?

If I'm wrong, someone will be along to correct me and put me back in my cage, but i believe the current year is 4710. The years progress in game world just as they do in the real world, so one year of real life equals one year of game time. Our year 2000 AD is Golarion's year 4700 AR.

-Skeld

EDIT: TriO's right too. AP/module/adventure events aren't shackled tightly to dates, so you can change things however you like.

OK. Thank you. I figured that was about what it was, but couldn't find reference to it anywhere. In The Sixfold Trial, ** spoiler omitted **

So, thanks. And I do know that as DM, I can do whatever I want with the date. I was just asking what's official.

/thread.

Drat, it was the spoiler I was going to quote from...basically, the content I was going to quote was that the House of Thrune supposedly took over Cheliax in 4640 AR, but according to the new (2015) Andoran book, it happened in 4660 AR, not long before the people of the "eastern provinces" (i.e., Andoran) freaked out about their ruler kissing up to House Thrune and going along with the take-over. By 4669 AR, two years after the Red Revolution in Galt started and seven years after the philosophers started growling in the pamphlets about how much the divine right of kings sucked, the discontent erupted into lots of civil disobedience, but before the year was out, Andoran was completely independent and there was little Cheliax could do but fume about it and set up a blockade. If Thrune had been in the driver's seat for almost 30 years, instead of less than 10, you'd think they'd be able to do more about it, and 29 years is a long time to build up the rumbling into flares of violence. :-/

So, which date is correct? 4640 or 4660? :-/

EDIT: It's also in the "old" (2010) Andoran book, the original, with a much truncated timeline...still has it as 4660 AR there. :-/

LB

Sczarni

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure, Companion, Lost Omens Subscriber

According to the wiki page Here 4640 is the correct date, as the Chelish navy is already taking back annexed colonies at 4660 AR.

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