Touch AC, Dexterity, and Max Dex AC

[ShadowDax]

Can you use your full dexterity for touch AC When you have a higher Dex than the Max Dex bonus allowed for the armor your wearing? I have currently a max Dex bonus of +6, next level my max Dex bonus will be +7. Due to a stat bump and the fact that I add my Intel to AC this level and the next. My max armor bonus is +6. This is important to me to know for survival reasons that I can use my maximum Dex bonus for touch AC.

[Mosaic]

ShadowDax wrote:

Can you use your full dexterity for touch AC When you have a higher Dex than the Max Dex bonus allowed for the armor your wearing?

Great question. I'm about to take a level of dualist and run into this same situation. I suppose I'm okay with the regular max AC, but it'd be nice to be able to use my extra +1 AC somewhere.

[Kabump]

Hardly 100% sure on this, but I would think that if you are wearing the armor, then no, the extra dex beyond the max allowed by the armor would NOT be allowed. Max dex bonus is a concept,as I see it, to attempt to express how confining and limiting to movement your armor is, that is you give up a certain amount of movement and flexibility for the extra protection the armor grants. More rigid and restraining armors restrict your movements more than lighter armors etc. Im sure someone else will come in with some better arguments, one way or the other. Just my 2cp and how Id call it in my game.

[knightofstyx]

Kabump wrote:

Hardly 100% sure on this, but I would think that if you are wearing the armor, then no, the extra dex beyond the max allowed by the armor would NOT be allowed. Max dex bonus is a concept,as I see it, to attempt to express how confining and limiting to movement your armor is, that is you give up a certain amount of movement and flexibility for the extra protection the armor grants. More rigid and restraining armors restrict your movements more than lighter armors etc. Im sure someone else will come in with some better arguments, one way or the other. Just my 2cp and how Id call it in my game.

Good explanation. That's pretty much the idea.

[Sniggevert]

Kabump wrote:

Hardly 100% sure on this, but I would think that if you are wearing the armor, then no, the extra dex beyond the max allowed by the armor would NOT be allowed. Max dex bonus is a concept,as I see it, to attempt to express how confining and limiting to movement your armor is, that is you give up a certain amount of movement and flexibility for the extra protection the armor grants. More rigid and restraining armors restrict your movements more than lighter armors etc. Im sure someone else will come in with some better arguments, one way or the other. Just my 2cp and how Id call it in my game.

That's definitely how I see it, and why I'd rule it that way in a game.

[Santiago Mendez]

If it to much of an issue switch to a lighter armor. Once your Dex overcomes the amount of armor that the armor provides armor is no longer useful in situations like that (other than FF AC)

[ShadowDax]

I suppose you all are right. That is the way I was leaning, but hoping for something different. It never hurts to ask. The only other way to have a higher AC once my amulet, armor and ring are maxed out to +5 is to have a +9 dex with my +1 int and brazers of armor +8.

[Aelryinth]

Untrue. You can also slap on a Monk's Belt with a Wisdom booster. With a 12 Int and a +4 booster, that's another +4 AC. At higher levels, with +6 booster and a +5 Inherent, that's 23 Wis and +7 to AC.

==Aelryinth

[Abraham spalding]

Aelryinth wrote:

Untrue. You can also slap on a Monk's Belt with a Wisdom booster. With a 12 Int and a +4 booster, that's another +4 AC. At higher levels, with +6 booster and a +5 Inherent, that's 23 Wis and +7 to AC.

==Aelryinth

Doesn't work that way anymore. You don't get the wisdom boost to AC in pathfinder.