Any rules for experimenting with magic?


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Dark Archive

Are there any rules for any of the following scenarios?
First we’ll assume that our subject is unfortunately enough not to have any magical blood in him, no special heritage, just a plain old human(oid?)
A man starts drawing runes at random, he doesn’t know if their actually runes, but he believes that what he draws has power in some way, maybe the tiniest bit of background knowledge in magic (so no more than maybe a level in wizard if that) he keeps drawing until something happens, how do you deal with this?
Second, the same insane man starts babbling incoherently, waving his arms and moving in a frantic manner, again believing something will happen eventually, but not really knowing what or even expecting anything in particular, so what happens?
Finally the insane man builds up a very complicated several day ritual, for some purpose or other, again with no prior knowledge of magic per se (nothing more than maybe seeing a caster doing it once or so), lots of magical components, chants, movements, ect, so in the end of the ritual what happens? Anything?
Now I don’t expect anything good would happen to this guy, but surely something would happen right?


Nope, no rules for random experimentation with magic. That's the DMs job.

As for what would happen, probably nothing. Unless the DM wanted it to.

Dark Archive

man, i thought something would have been said about experimentation of magic in one of the supplements

Scarab Sages

I would consider it a bad idea to allow "random actions" to invoke magical (arcane, divine, deific) effects.

If you allow that to happen, who's to say that sitting on the john in an outhouse isn't some kind of ritual to the god of excrement and you've just summoned his avatar: a gargantuan otyugh with levels of monk?


azhrei_fje wrote:

I would consider it a bad idea to allow "random actions" to invoke magical (arcane, divine, deific) effects.

If you allow that to happen, who's to say that sitting on the john in an outhouse isn't some kind of ritual to the god of excrement and you've just summoned his avatar: a gargantuan otyugh with levels of monk?

It might be, but in that case you'd see a rapidly declining amount of johns in outhouses. The characters would know about this long beforehand, if there was a noticable risk. The very fact that outhouses still exist is evidence enough that it isn't anything to worry about.

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