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Silver Crusade

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Kirth Gersen wrote:
flash_cxxi wrote:
You're a smart guy Kirth, I thought you would have figured this out...
(Grin) I know perfectly well why Paizo would do it -- any merchant jumps at the chance to sell the same product twice. But as a customer, I reserve the right to grumble...

Actually, buying one Bestiary is less a shellout than buying x issues of the APs to get the monsters contained there, so ...

Also, all* of the monsters are open content anyway.

* Except the Coeurl and the Deep Crow. Offer not valid in Minnesota.

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#1 Denizens of Leng - love their concept/niche, feel they are much more usable than illithids for an aberrant mastermind

#2 Cold Rider - am using an advanced version of these bad boys for my epic-level campaign right now

#3 Kytons - specifically, the hinted-at members of this race from the Bestiary, that the minor chain-demons commonly known are only one breed of the kyton race ....

Honorable mentions: Blessed Ones, Doru Div, Wendigo, Akata (and Void Zombies), and the Carrion Golem.


In no particular order:

-Inevitables
-Agathions
-Daemons
-Proteans
-Jyoti
-Scaeduinar
-Revenant
-REDCAP!
-More Asuras
-Mythological creatures from Africa/East or South Asia

Scarab Sages

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AS someone who has all the APs, let me throw in my two cps and say that I would love for the best of the AP monsters to be placed in a Bestiary. It beats having to go through each AP issue looking for a particular monster because I remember the monster but not which AP it was in.

Not to mention, the hardbound bestiaries can take a bit more wear than the soft bound APs and using your magizines or modules as reference books really tears them up over time.

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Wicht wrote:

AS someone who has all the APs, let me throw in my two cps and say that I would love for the best of the AP monsters to be placed in a Bestiary. It beats having to go through each AP issue looking for a particular monster because I remember the monster but not which AP it was in.

Not to mention, the hardbound bestiaries can take a bit more wear than the soft bound APs and using your magizines or modules as reference books really tears them up over time.

Let me second every point of this post, even as someone who rarely uses the print copies at all. The PDFs aren't much easier to juggle than the physical books, if you end up with a dozen or so files open at once.


My top 10 would be:

10 Azlanti Chariot Beetle (we need more vermin)
9 Sinspawn
8 Totenmaske
7 Red Cap
6 Taiga Giants and Marsh Giants
5 Any of the Mythos creatures (especially serpent folk)
4 Nosferatu
3 Leucrotta and Peryton
2 Banshee
1 Mothman

Honorable Mention:
Witchwyrd

Creatures I would like to see:
Bunyip and Slicer Beetle from the Tome of Horrors.
Hopefully both would include a higher CR version then the one in the book. This would make their ability to sever limbs more level appropriate and potientially give some playtime to the regenerate spell.


Rune Giant (RotRL)
Wendigo (RotRL)
Denizen of Leng (RotRL)
Hound of Tindalos (RotRL)
Gug (CotCT)
Revenant (RotRL)
Banshee (RotRL)
Akata (2D)

want to see:

Daemons

Stats for the Spawn of Rovagug. Nothing says "oh s~*t!" much better than a group realizing that a critter is Something Special than Things of such magnitude.

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Asgetrion wrote:
James, what you really need to do is chain Darrin Drader & messieurs Pett and Logue into a desk (preferably in a forlorn attic, if you only can) and make those twisted geniuses write monsters for Bestiary II! :)

Let me just say that if Paizo wanted to chain me to a desk and force me to do something I love all day long every day, I'd be all over it.

And thanks for the compliment. :-)

Sovereign Court

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Darrin Drader wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:
James, what you really need to do is chain Darrin Drader & messieurs Pett and Logue into a desk (preferably in a forlorn attic, if you only can) and make those twisted geniuses write monsters for Bestiary II! :)

Let me just say that if Paizo wanted to chain me to a desk and force me to do something I love all day long every day, I'd be all over it.

And thanks for the compliment. :-)

Excuse my cluelessness but what are some of the monsters you designed?

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Actually putting all the HPL/Mythos creatures in (Son of Yog-sothoth, Hounds, Gugs, Denizen of Leng) the Bestiary II can foster an entire new campaign style of play. CoC meets Pathfinder.

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Callous Jack wrote:
Darrin Drader wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:
James, what you really need to do is chain Darrin Drader & messieurs Pett and Logue into a desk (preferably in a forlorn attic, if you only can) and make those twisted geniuses write monsters for Bestiary II! :)

Let me just say that if Paizo wanted to chain me to a desk and force me to do something I love all day long every day, I'd be all over it.

And thanks for the compliment. :-)

Excuse my cluelessness but what are some of the monsters you designed?

WotC 3E Death Knight

Graveknight
Sarrukh (yes, I know this one's messed up)
3E Lizard King
Nifern
Serpentflesh Golem
Tren (I think. It's been a while)
Owl Archon
Leskylor
Sanctified creature template
Emkrah
Hadhayosh
Rukh
... and a bunch more for other third party publishers

Sovereign Court

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Darrin Drader wrote:


WotC 3E Death Knight
Graveknight
Sarrukh (yes, I know this one's messed up)
3E Lizard King
Nifern
Serpentflesh Golem
Tren (I think. It's been a while)
Owl Archon
Leskylor
Sanctified creature template
Emkrah
Hadhayosh
Rukh
... and a bunch more for other third party publishers

Ah, thanks for the list, DD. Some of them I am not familiar with but the Emkrah and the GraveKnight are really fantastic.

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Darrin Drader wrote:


Sarrukh (yes, I know this one's messed up)

And I totally used one of those guys in a Planescape game (on one of many detours to Toril). :D

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Darrin Drader wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:
James, what you really need to do is chain Darrin Drader & messieurs Pett and Logue into a desk (preferably in a forlorn attic, if you only can) and make those twisted geniuses write monsters for Bestiary II! :)

Let me just say that if Paizo wanted to chain me to a desk and force me to do something I love all day long every day, I'd be all over it.

And thanks for the compliment. :-)

Ah, but are you *really* that keen to volunteer to be chained to the same desk with the abominable twosome Pett & Logue? ;)

You really impressed me with the Graveknight -- I already loved the 3E Death Knight, but this one is (as I already stated) in my opinion the best version of DK ever done! You tied the mechanics to flavour in a really cool way and brought some fresh insight and perspective to one of my favorite monsters. And not only that; you also demonstrated a deeper understanding of the both the revised mechanics and the spirit of the rules (for example, damage from 'Channel Destruction' and 'Devastating Blast' scaling with HDs). Bravo, sir! Ergo, all that tells me that you would be one of my "top picks" for writing/revising monsters for the Bestiary! :)

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Darrin Drader wrote:


Leskylor
Rukh

I love these two in particular, Darrin. Any monster with multiple heads has a special place in my heart. I had a paladin who tried to get a Leskylor as her special mount... though I never got the DM to agree to it. Stupid "game balance".


Mine
1. The dire platypus
2. The Hadrosaur
3. The Duckbear
4. The Duck-billed Buntingi
5. Nettastomatidae or Duckbilled eels

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Asgetrion wrote:
James, what you really need to do is chain Darrin Drader & messieurs Pett and Logue into a desk (preferably in a forlorn attic, if you only can) and make those twisted geniuses write monsters for Bestiary II! :)

Uncanny...

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I would like to see the following:

1.Displacer Beast/Coeurl (with the serial numbers filed off. Goodbye protected IP tentacle cat, hello phase-panther, mirage feline, or whatever you want to call it. It does not really matter, all of the abilities that describe the monster can be easily described in rules which are open content, just loose the name and call it something else. And while we are at it lets do mind flayers as well)

2.I would personally like to see some variant aboleths and some greater versions of them and their minions. They have always been some of my favorite bads, and I would like to see some higher level aboleth threats.

3. Clockwork Horrors (if they are not someones IP)

I would also like the following to be considered for new monsters:

1.Simurgh

2. Mothman (Or maybe a Batsquatch)

3.Mongolian Death Worm

love,

malkav

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malkav666 wrote:


I would also like the following to be considered for new monsters:

1.Simurgh

2. Mothman (Or maybe a Batsquatch)

3.Mongolian Death Worm

Mothman is in AP # 16: Endless Night, and the Simurgh (with an accompanying minor artifact that can summon it) is in #24: The Final Wish.

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Lord Gadigan wrote:
malkav666 wrote:


I would also like the following to be considered for new monsters:

1.Simurgh

2. Mothman (Or maybe a Batsquatch)

3.Mongolian Death Worm

Mothman is in AP # 16: Endless Night, and the Simurgh (with an accompanying minor artifact that can summon it) is in #24: The Final Wish.

Ah I don't own either of those yet. My bad. I would still like to see them in a bestiary none the less.

love,

malkav


Mongolian death worm is in the d20 modern SRD, if I remember correctly.

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malkav666 wrote:
(Or maybe a Batsquatch)

Bonus points for mentioning Batsquatch.

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Kirth Gersen wrote:
Mongolian death worm is in the d20 modern SRD, if I remember correctly.

It's also in the Tome of Horrors. Although without "Mongolian" in front of its name, since there's no Mongolia in Fantasy World. We used them in Legacy of Fire.

Sovereign Court

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James Jacobs wrote:
malkav666 wrote:
(Or maybe a Batsquatch)
Bonus points for mentioning Batsquatch.

James, what are your top 3(10)?


Ahem.

ARGHH!!-hem.

Sovereign Court

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vagrant-poet wrote:
ARGHH!!-hem.

CooooOOoool.

Grand Lodge

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I need to go look for any updates on a Pathfinder Tome of Horrors. I managed to pick up the original at Half-Price Books for $15. Hard to believe someone would get rid of that. Oh well, bonus for me!


Denizen of Leng
Akata
Morlock


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
appear

Yes? We were eating breakfast...


TriOmegaZero wrote:
I need to go look for any updates on a Pathfinder Tome of Horrors. I managed to pick up the original at Half-Price Books for $15. Hard to believe someone would get rid of that. Oh well, bonus for me!

I really wish that something would happen there. Say, a best of the ToH volumes that didn't make it into bestiaries 1 & 2.


Surly Troglodytes:
Why don't you guys ever appear when I really need you?


By the way,

Regarding the appearance of the denizens of Leng, presuming they make it into Bestiary Volume 2. I much prefer the Pathfinder #6 illustration to the Pathfinder #21 illustration. The #6 has freaky mandibles which help to make this much more than a mind flayer clone. The #21 version, while the illustration technique is quite excellent, is too reminiscent of the mind flayer — and the squidfaced dude from Pirate of the Carribean.

Less squidface, more "unspeakably ghastly writhing" beneath those masks.

Thanks!

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Richard Pett wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:
James, what you really need to do is chain Darrin Drader & messieurs Pett and Logue into a desk (preferably in a forlorn attic, if you only can) and make those twisted geniuses write monsters for Bestiary II! :)
Uncanny...

Don't you lurk in forlorn attics? And I only thought you and mr. Logue would feel more at home with chains and all... ;)

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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Losing you Summoning Fu, Mairkurion? ;P


Never! It's just the trogs that are surly.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Evil Lincoln wrote:

By the way,

Regarding the appearance of the denizens of Leng, presuming they make it into Bestiary Volume 2. I much prefer the Pathfinder #6 illustration to the Pathfinder #21 illustration. The #6 has freaky mandibles which help to make this much more than a mind flayer clone. The #21 version, while the illustration technique is quite excellent, is too reminiscent of the mind flayer — and the squidfaced dude from Pirate of the Carribean.

Less squidface, more "unspeakably ghastly writhing" beneath those masks.

Thanks!

I like BOTH illustrations... but the one from #21 is much more in keeping with the standard art style we produce. The illustration from #6, while REALLY cool, is not really of an art style that meshes well with the rest of what we do, and would look VERY out of place in a Bestiary product.


James Jacobs wrote:


I like BOTH illustrations... but the one from #21 is much more in keeping with the standard art style we produce. The illustration from #6, while REALLY cool, is not really of an art style that meshes well with the rest of what we do, and would look VERY out of place in a Bestiary product.

I like both as well! I'd like to clarify though...

I wasn't addressing the style of the illustration, although I do happen to like that whole feel to #6. I was addressing the implied anatomy of the creature in the illustration. If there were to be a new art order for volume 2 of the Bestiary, I would prefer the non-tentacular face of the original illustration. It can be rendered in whatever style that Paizo desires, in its wisdom.

For my part, I just imagine their are mandibular* protrusions hidden beneath the mask in #26. They are both excellent illustrations in my opinion.

*I did not think this was an actual word when I typed it!

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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Never! It's just the trogs that are surly.

As are all devi... er, allies I summon and deal with on a daily basis! You need to be more... decisive with those nasty brutes -- show them who's the boss!


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Never! It's just the trogs that are surly.

Damn right, our corn flakes got mushy while you summoned us!

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Anyone else?


Everything could use more fey.

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GreatKhanArtist wrote:
Everything could use more fey.

Any specifics?

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More constructs, and definitely more undead... never hurts anyone having more undead at your disp... er, in your Bestiary!

I already mentioned it, but I really, REALLY wish Graveknight will appear in Bestiary II!

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Callous Jack wrote:
GreatKhanArtist wrote:
Everything could use more fey.
Any specifics?

Personally, more chaotic and/or evil fey would be also nice -- something like the nasty critter that transformed children into bushes (the name escapes me at the moment, but it was in MM III, IV or V) and the Ragewalker.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Well since it belongs to Paizo now...

The lahamu :P

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Asgetrion wrote:
More constructs, and definitely more undead... never hurts anyone having more undead at your disp... er, in your Bestiary!

Any specific undead or constructs that appeared in the APs or modules?

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Callous Jack wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:
More constructs, and definitely more undead... never hurts anyone having more undead at your disp... er, in your Bestiary!
Any specific undead or constructs that appeared in the APs or modules?

Well, in addition to the twice-mentioned Graveknight I'd like to see at least Witchfire (?) from RotRL and Edimmu from LoF. However, I was mainly referring to new or yet-unpublished OGL monsters, plus possibly some "tweaked" conversions of non-OGL monsters (Skull Lord, Swordwraith et al.). I can't recall any specific constructs ATM, but more golems would be nice! :)

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Asgetrion wrote:
I can't recall any specific constructs ATM, but more golems would be nice! :)

I'll have to look up the name but there was a cool construct from one of the APs that had a victim strapped to the front of the monster's chest and I think it fed off the soul or something too.


I may be in the minority here, but I rather liked what WotC did with the MM4+, of mixing new monsters in with level-varied versions of existing ones as well (i.e, an entry for ogres including shaman, berserker, etc.). So put me down for some of that please.

Also some CR 12+ monsters that AREN'T extraplanar or dragons, if you have any floating around. This is a biggie for me, as I'm currently running a L10-20 game by request and can only do "giants with class levels" so many times...

-The Gneech

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John Robey wrote:
Also some CR 12+ monsters that AREN'T extraplanar or dragons, if you have any floating around. This is a biggie for me, as I'm currently running a L10-20 game by request and can only do "giants with class levels" so many times...-The Gneech

We've got a ton of monsters converted from the Tome of Horrors 1, many above CR10. I don't know how well they will all suit your campaign but you might want to check them out. Just look for anything with [TOH1] after the name.

You can see them here.

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