Light from a Fire Elemental?


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Was looking at fire elementals the other day, and one thing stuck out at me. It doesn't say how much light a fire elemental emmits, only that they vary in appearance, with its features made up of dark bits of flame, cider and smoke.

Reason I ask is our party has apparently managed up in the demon web pits while my character (a druid who sepends most of his time as an earth elemental) hasn't had its PC light on while I've been on break. So now I have to catch them up, but the structure apparently won't suppport the weight of an earth elemental, so I figure fire would be the next logical form of elemental to take. But the question of spotting a fire elemental in a pit of darkness came up.


Have you ever been around a big bon fire? You can see them from quite a ways away. Miles even, if you've got a clear line of site. A nice big bon fire will shed good usable light to a good 50 foot distance. I'd treat it like a hooded lantern or a light spell, but with 50' primary normal light area and 50' secondary lighting area.

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My guess: A Small elemental sheds light as per a torch, each additional size upping the radius by 10' bright light/20' dim light thereafter.

Small - 20'/40'
Medium - 30'/60'
Large - 40'/80'
Huge/Greater/Elder - 50'/100'

This way a Daylight spell (60'/120') is still more powerful a light source than even the greatest non-Epic elemental.


That's probably a better way to handle it. Also it should be considered normal light and not bright light in the primary area. No light source except a Daylight spell generates Bright Light. Even elementals don't produce light that bright, except maybe some specific one.


Delthos wrote:
That's probably a better way to handle it. Also it should be considered normal light and not bright light in the primary area. No light source except a Daylight spell generates Bright Light. Even elementals don't produce light that bright, except maybe some specific one.

A huge Elemental should produce bright light...ever seen the light emitted from a large fire?


Xaaon of Korvosa wrote:
Delthos wrote:
That's probably a better way to handle it. Also it should be considered normal light and not bright light in the primary area. No light source except a Daylight spell generates Bright Light. Even elementals don't produce light that bright, except maybe some specific one.
A huge Elemental should produce bright light...ever seen the light emitted from a large fire?

I've had a huge bonfire where we were burning trees pulled together with tractors instead of logs and it was awesome(I love fire) and bright but it wasn't daylight. I would go with normal light and save bright light for actual daylight.

Now a bunch of these guys standing around together that could be a different story


Xaaon of Korvosa wrote:
Delthos wrote:
That's probably a better way to handle it. Also it should be considered normal light and not bright light in the primary area. No light source except a Daylight spell generates Bright Light. Even elementals don't produce light that bright, except maybe some specific one.
A huge Elemental should produce bright light...ever seen the light emitted from a large fire?

Yes I have and none of them has produced light the equivalent of sun light. None the less I can see there being some types of fire elementals that burn brighter than others. If you got enough of them together I could see them producing light as bright as sun light.

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