I found this starting in USA Today's site and it led to this article:
'Page 1,020" — it may soon be a mantra for one of the most disturbing abuses of legislative power in history. In setting up an Independent Medicare Advisory Board, that page of the Senate health overhaul bill passed in the dead of night early Monday says, "It shall not be in order in the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection."
What does everyone think of this "provision" that was slipped in and would (provided it is constitutional) prevent future congress and senates from making changes to it?
Damn. I was hoping it was my pie. I haven't seen it in a long time. I think it might have been stolen.
What type of pie? Pumpkin?
*nom.nom.nom*
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I found this starting in USA Today's site and it led to this article:
'Page 1,020" — it may soon be a mantra for one of the most disturbing abuses of legislative power in history. In setting up an Independent Medicare Advisory Board, that page of the Senate health overhaul bill passed in the dead of night early Monday says, "It shall not be in order in the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection."
What does everyone think of this "provision" that was slipped in and would (provided it is constitutional) prevent future congress and senates from making changes to it?
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What type of pie? Pumpkin?
*nom.nom.nom*
Did someone say pie? Was it pecan?
The ingredients of my pies are a state secret. If you look at page 342, subparagraph 5(3)(xii), you would see the following:
"Sebastian's pies are yummy, and it shall be a federal offense to disclose the ingredients of such pies."
mmm, bait.
Is bait as tasty as pie?
mmm, bait.Is bait as tasty as pie?Are we talking Jailbait?
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17 year old hot cheerleaders are legal in Texas!
I hope you are prepared for the flame war you are about to unleash. Enjoy. Grabs marshmellos for smores.
David, where were you during the "Victim Jailed; Burglar Goes Free" thread fiasco? You missed out on all the fun. ;)
I made me a Rorschach mask just for that thread.
You should you bloodthirsty savage. ;)
Some things never cease to amaze me.
You ain't kidding.
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I found this starting in USA Today's site and it led to this article:
'Page 1,020" — it may soon be a mantra for one of the most disturbing abuses of legislative power in history. In setting up an Independent Medicare Advisory Board, that page of the Senate health overhaul bill passed in the dead of night early Monday says, "It shall not be in order in the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection."
What does everyone think of this "provision" that was slipped in and would (provided it is constitutional) prevent future congress and senates from making changes to it?
I guess I don't get it. WHat does it cover?
Some things never cease to amaze me.Not surprising. The simple-minded are easily amused.
MWAHAHAHA!!!OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOHOHOHO!
HEHAW! HEEEEEEEEEHAW!
I guess I don't get it. WHat does it cover?I found this starting in USA Today's site and it led to this article:
'Page 1,020" — it may soon be a mantra for one of the most disturbing abuses of legislative power in history. In setting up an Independent Medicare Advisory Board, that page of the Senate health overhaul bill passed in the dead of night early Monday says, "It shall not be in order in the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection."
What does everyone think of this "provision" that was slipped in and would (provided it is constitutional) prevent future congress and senates from making changes to it?
The provision creates an "independent" medical advisory board. "Independent" means that this bill sets up all the rules governing it (as decided by Harry Reid and those who added the provision) AND prevents any future congress/senate from changing it. So, if the congress/senate screwed up the initial creation we are still stuck with it. If it is good now but things change in the future so that it is screwed up then we are still stuck with it.
This gives the small number of people who had a say in the provision an enormous and permanent stamp on what it can do.
Speaking of pies, I really hope they include a provision setting pi = 3. I'm sick of all those decimals: 3.14159264; just make it 3 for cripes sake.
I don't think people want to talk about this. at least not here. It's an important issue to Americans, no doubt, but on a game website, people are looking for fun things, to escape from worries, not focus on them.
So, this is a game web-site and people are looking for fun things, to escape from worries, not focus on them?
How about this 569 post thread:
...or how about this 5,583 post thread:
It seems that a lot of people wish to speak of something other than just happy fun thoughts.
So, why trash a new thread without even giving it a chance?
Well I put in my few copper. =D
:tip hat:
Appreciated.
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I don't think people want to talk about this. at least not here. It's an important issue to Americans, no doubt, but on a game website, people are looking for fun things, to escape from worries, not focus on them.So, this is a game web-site and people are looking for fun things, to escape from worries, not focus on them?
How about this 569 post thread:
...or how about this 5,583 post thread:
It seems that a lot of people wish to speak of something other than just happy fun thoughts.
So, why trash a new thread without even giving it a chance?
Who's trashing? I responded to the original post, instead of talking about pie.
Who's trashing? I responded to the original post, instead of talking about pie.
Then pretty sure he wasn't talking to you ;)
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Fudgy Chocolate Cream Pie
Ingredients
1 (9 inch) pie crust, baked 1 1/4 cups white sugar 2 tablespoons all-purpose flour 2 tablespoons cornstarch 1/4 teaspoon salt 1 1/2 cups milk 4 egg yolks 2 (1 ounce) squares unsweetened chocolate 1 tablespoon butter 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
Directions
In medium saucepan, combine sugar, flour, cornstarch and salt. In a medium bowl, beat milk and egg yolks until smooth. Gradually stir into sugar mixture. Stir constantly over medium heat until mixture thickens and comes to a full boil. Boil and stir for one minute.
Remove from heat and stir in chocolate, butter and vanilla. Stir until melted.
Pour into pie shell. Place plastic wrap over filling to prevent skin from forming and chill for several hours. Top with meringue or whipped cream and chocolate curls if so desired.
Serves 8
Pie is good, I prefer pumpkin myself, but my Dad likes strawberry rhubarb. Apple pie with vanilla ice cream on top is a classic though and few things rival its sheer goodness.
Also congress cannot pass or approve of a law that commits future congresses to a course of action or prohibits them from taking one. Note the nice deal Nebraska got for the democratic senator's vote.
The section you are referring to does not prevent legislation from making changes to the Medicare Advisory Board. What it does is prevent legislation from making changes to recommendations made by the Medicare Advisory Board regarding costs. Even then, it only prevents Congress from making changes to the advisory board's recommendations if the recommendations do not meet certain standards. For example, if the Medicare Advisory Board makes recommends that we ration healthcare, raise premiums, or reduce medical payment rates, then the legislation can step in and make changes to their recommendations.
Also, the paragraph doesn't completely prevent legislative branches from making changes to the provisions laid out in the bill. The paragraph right after states, "This paragraph may be waived or suspended in the Senate only by the affirmative vote of three-fifths of the members duly chosen and sworn." In other words, if 60 members of the Senate decide that the limitations of the bill need to be waived, then they can waive them.
One last thing: The provisions in the bill that restrict the legislative branches from making changes to the advisory board's recommendations expire in 2018 and 2019. So even if the Senate doesn't vote to waive the limitations between then and now, future Congresses and Senates can just let them expire.
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I hope you are prepared for the flame war you are about to unleash. Enjoy. Grabs marshmellos for smores.
Here, David, as a victim of the capitalist philosophy of endless consumption, I'm sure you'll need this for your s'mores. I hear it also works on s'murphs. (They're like s'mores but blue with more protein.)
