What is the summoner?


Round 2: Summoner and Witch


I was thinking about different characters I could make with the summoner class, and I felt like the summon monster SLA just gets in the way and shoehorns the class into be a summon spammer. i think the clas should keep the high level summon spells on their spell list, but at least they do not have to be like that. i think that the SLA was put in after the name was chosen to reinforce it, but if it were removed, the class could have a wider array of options. Then, to balance the loss, I would give the summoner the ability to gain some of the evolutions of their pet without taking the evolutions away and I would give it at the beginning and have it scale much faster. However,t hen summoner no longer fits perfectly as a class name and i am at a loss at what it should be. However, I think it is a good idea because the class can still be a summoner if it wants to with summon X spells obtained faster soemtimes than full casters.

I don't know, this to me seems more like what i thought the class was going to before the playtest; a little more generic.

i wasn't sure where to put this because this isn't really a playtest.


Well, the class is a summoner class. It summons things. For more general conjurers, there's the conjurer (wizard specialisation).

It's a niche class. It should be good at that niche.


With a name like summoner you can only really expect ot to do one thing - and that is to summon

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