I'm DMing the Savage Tide and the PCs are currently in Scuttlecove taking care of the Crimson Fleet. It's a longstanding tradition for the PCs to find someone to mate with to carry on their line (and to play as their next PC), and two PCs are left. I'm looking for NPCs or monsters further along in the adventure path that fit the bill for them.
PC #1: A male red dragon. He wants to keep his line pure and only mate with another dragon (he's not too particular about the variety). I've already used Xiureksor, the green dragon mentioned on the Isle of Dread. Are there any other dragons coming up?
PC #2: A female erinyes. She wants to mate with a fey. I've already used Tyralandi, the half-fiend nymph, and she's a female to boot. Are there any fey coming up?
I could easily add who they're looking for to the jail in Gaping Maw in the next adventure, but they're already rescuing a whole bunch of people there and I don't want to shoehorn anyone else in if I can avoid it.
There's an awesome dragon in the jail.
Hint:
** spoiler omitted **Plenty of fey-style goodness later when...
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yeah, that's not gonna happen... Hmmm.... Unless somehow the erinyes has had a major change in outlook, his distrust of Lawfuls, not to mention Hatred of Evil will be more likely to start a fight. Maybe if the rest of the Party can hold him down...
I don't have the books here with me, so I'll have to "look under the lava" tonight. I'm vaguely remembering something . . .
yeah, that's not gonna happen... Hmmm.... Unless somehow the erinyes has had a major change in outlook, his distrust of Lawfuls, not to mention Hatred of Evil will be more likely to start a fight. Maybe if the rest of the Party can hold him down...
Erinyes are lawful evil, as is the PC. Are you talking about how the fey will feel about the erinyes? Either way, I'll check it out, too.
Thanks for the help!
The monster "under the lava" is a perfect mate for a red dragon.
As for the eladrin, they aren't fey; they're outsiders.
As for the Porphyry House, I've used the one in Dungeon #146. I don't know if I want to add more to it, and I don't have Dungeon #95.
I don't have the books here with me, so I'll have to "look under the lava" tonight. I'm vaguely remembering something . . .
yeah, that's not gonna happen... Hmmm.... Unless somehow the erinyes has had a major change in outlook, his distrust of Lawfuls, not to mention Hatred of Evil will be more likely to start a fight. Maybe if the rest of the Party can hold him down...Erinyes are lawful evil, as is the PC. Are you talking about how the fey will feel about the erinyes? Either way, I'll check it out, too.
Thanks for the help!
Given the Erinyes and Red Dragon PC's mentioned in the OP, I figured that the party was Evil, so I made my comment with regard to the first encounter in Court of Stars chapter (covering my bases in case your party had alternatly aligned Red Dragons and Erinyes). The Eladrin (Sir A$$-hat) that Carbo' was talking about is a CG outsider with very specific dislikes detailed in the text. He views Lawful entities as almost as bad as Evil aligned entities, so your PC is unlikely to strike up much of a "romance" with him if she is LE. :)
Aside from Tyralandi, there aren't many Fey in STAP as written (esp. that late in the game). There is the Wispling gatecrasher, Shadowfire, in WoD but I have no idea off hand if a Wispling is a Fey... You will likely have to add your own NPC Fey somewhere along the line to suit your needs.
The red dragon is chaotic neutral, the erinyes lawful evil. It's a strange party, but it works.
If there's no fey in later adventures I'll have to add one. Shadar-kai seem like a good choice, but I'm not sure if there are other lawful evil fey or not.
There is the Wispling gatecrasher, Shadowfire, in WoD but I have no idea off hand if a Wispling is a Fey...
Wisplings are planetouched halfling/demons mixes (less than half-demon), and can be found in the Fiend Folio.
I don't have the books here with me, so I'll have to "look under the lava" tonight. I'm vaguely remembering something . . .
yeah, that's not gonna happen... Hmmm.... Unless somehow the erinyes has had a major change in outlook, his distrust of Lawfuls, not to mention Hatred of Evil will be more likely to start a fight. Maybe if the rest of the Party can hold him down...Erinyes are lawful evil, as is the PC. Are you talking about how the fey will feel about the erinyes? Either way, I'll check it out, too.
Thanks for the help!
Your PLAYER is Lawful Evil.
Not to be snarky, but you need to get new friends...
I'm not fond of evil characters anymore (we did that back in the 70's and 80's and it got tired quick) but evil Players get kicked out of the game as soon as I can identify them. Nobody needs that kind of selfishness and...well, evil.
I don't have the books here with me, so I'll have to "look under the lava" tonight. I'm vaguely remembering something . . .
yeah, that's not gonna happen... Hmmm.... Unless somehow the erinyes has had a major change in outlook, his distrust of Lawfuls, not to mention Hatred of Evil will be more likely to start a fight. Maybe if the rest of the Party can hold him down...Erinyes are lawful evil, as is the PC. Are you talking about how the fey will feel about the erinyes? Either way, I'll check it out, too.
Thanks for the help!
Your PLAYER is Lawful Evil.
Not to be snarky, but you need to get new friends...
I'm not fond of evil characters anymore (we did that back in the 70's and 80's and it got tired quick) but evil Players get kicked out of the game as soon as I can identify them. Nobody needs that kind of selfishness and...well, evil.
Dude that was really unnecessary. Some people enjoy playing an evil campaign now and again. Just because you don't doesn't mean you need to get on a high horse and tell people to "get new friends" because they enjoy something you don't. Bugger off.
Dude that was really unnecessary. Some people enjoy playing an evil campaign now and again. Just because you don't doesn't mean you need to get on a high horse and tell people to "get new friends" because they enjoy something you don't. Bugger off.I don't have the books here with me, so I'll have to "look under the lava" tonight. I'm vaguely remembering something . . .
yeah, that's not gonna happen... Hmmm.... Unless somehow the erinyes has had a major change in outlook, his distrust of Lawfuls, not to mention Hatred of Evil will be more likely to start a fight. Maybe if the rest of the Party can hold him down...Erinyes are lawful evil, as is the PC. Are you talking about how the fey will feel about the erinyes? Either way, I'll check it out, too.
Thanks for the help!
Your PLAYER is Lawful Evil.
Not to be snarky, but you need to get new friends...
I'm not fond of evil characters anymore (we did that back in the 70's and 80's and it got tired quick) but evil Players get kicked out of the game as soon as I can identify them. Nobody needs that kind of selfishness and...well, evil.
Sorry, I misread that. When he said the PC was evil, I thought he said the player was Evil.
I can see people playing Evil Characters for fun. Like I said, I've done the Evil Character thing too. I no longer allow them in my campaigns, but that's personal preference and has mor to do with keeping storylines flowing and keeping group cohesion and gamer ettiquite working.
Evil PLAYERS are something else. And I have met them. The person who will ONLY play if they are allowed to be Evil. Or the player who plays only to mess up the plans and activities of the other players and/or GM. Or the player who takes unnecessary delight in rape/ molestation/ child abuse/ etc. Or the player who uses the game to bully and torment other players. And the actions outside of the game. And so on.
Unfortunately, those players are out there and I've had some of them try to join campaigns (especially when its a store-sponsered event) I've GM'd pr played in. We had one in the PF Demo we GM'd last month. He's not allowed in the ongoing campaign.
What I was saying (and like I said, I misread Dan's comment) was that if you see that your PLAYER is evil, its time to get them out of the game.
But I did say it was going to sound snarky too...
Ah, yeah that didn't come through well. Curse the poor communication medium of text.
Ah, yeah that didn't come through well. Curse the poor communication medium of text.
Yeah, my first post was badly puntuated by me.
"Your PLAYER is Lawful Evil."
Is supposed to be
"Your PLAYER is Lawful Evil?"
More incredulous.
But I can see where it comes off sounding high handed.
Anyway, good luck!
As for the eladrin, they aren't fey; they're outsiders.
Fey is not really a type of its own in 3E - there are fey-style critters spread throughout the various types. Much different from 4E, where fey is one of the major origins. I've started using the 4E definition of fey in 3E, and that makes the eladrin into Fey too.
As for "setting up" potential romances for your players, I rarely find that works for my groups. I can put in someone I think will capture a particular player's attention, and find that they pick their henchman, talking mount or just about anyone else instead. Still, trying to create romantic encounters does help simply because you consider encounters from such an angle.
And alignment or other faction problems does not preclude romance; opposition only makes such things stronger in my experience.
Fey is not really a type of its own in 3E - there are fey-style critters spread throughout the various types.
Officially, Fey _is_ a monster type in 3e.
However, I'll certainly admit that fey-like beings can be found under other monster types, such as the afore-mentioned Eladrin (MM, Manual of the Planes, Book of Exalted Deeds). I can even find one in the Aberration category - the Silthilar (Lords of Madness). That last one was weird! :)
As for the eladrin, they aren't fey; they're outsiders.Fey is not really a type of its own in 3E - there are fey-style critters spread throughout the various types. Much different from 4E, where fey is one of the major origins. I've started using the 4E definition of fey in 3E, and that makes the eladrin into Fey too.
Wait what?