Wizard Cantrips memorization / forgetting rules


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From the online PRD or Core Rule Book (page 218):

Spell Selection and Preparation: Until he prepares spells from his spellbook, the only spells a wizard has available to cast are the ones that he already had prepared from the previous day and has not yet used. During the study period, he chooses which spells to prepare. If a wizard already has spells prepared (from the previous day) that he has not cast, she can abandon some or all of them to make room for new spells.

So, if Joe the wizard gets captured whilst very low on spells, lets say only his 0 level spells left, does he still have them two weeks later? (ignoring the Read Magic exception).

My rules lawyer player needs to know this because he wants to take Spell Mastery as his next feat and he is wondering (as am I), if he has to include any 0 level spells in the Mastery, or are the last ones he memorized already "free" as in 0 levels spells are not cast and forget.

The one "out" for making the previous ones free are that the description says "already prepared from the previous day" which could be taken as if he memorized them two days ago, that doesn't count.

-- david
Papa.DRB


From what I've seen, spells stay memorized until you cast them.

There are several instances of this in the AP. (One of the spellcasters in Pathfinder #4 had his spellbooks destroyed and had to conserve his spells as he wandered for a long while...)

Scarab Sages

considering that they're essentially 'always prepared' until you prepare something on top of them, i'd say yeah, they would still be there.

PRD; Cantrips wrote:
These spells are cast like any other spell, but they are not expended when cast and may be used again.

In the preparing spells example, it says 'used' and in the Cantrips description it says 'may be used again,' so I think it would work as your player hopes.

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