wraithstrike |
Incorrect. It did indeed happen. You may disagree, but you did something the GM thinks stepped over the line. This is not a court of law.
Most Gm's will and should say "If you do so and so I think that is a violation or break of your code/AL/ gods teachings etc." But in the End the GM must make a call. He is the one running the game.
This is no different them him ruling a cleric pissed off his god by doing something or that you got ambushed or ya pissed off someone with a comment. You may disagree but it is the GM's place to run the game and if his final ruling is that would break your code, then that is what it is.
It may not be, because either something did or did not happen. A DM's opinion is not a fact. Now there are certain things that definitely break the code, the others are open to interpretation, and a DM's interpretation can be wrong.
As an example(real life) a player thought it was wrong for a paladin to use ranged weapons, luckily he was not the DM. In that case he would have been wrong(even if he was the DM), since the anti-ranged weapon rule is from the 1st edition cavalier. He had gotten his editions mixed up again.
You see a DM ruling something happening does not make it so.
Edit: "but" to "because..." Man I am tired. Hopefully I can make my will save and not make anymore rebuttals tonight.
seekerofshadowlight |
It may not be, but either something did or did not happen. A DM's opinion is not a fact. Now there are certain things that definitely break the code, the others are open to interpretation, and a DM's interpretation can be wrong.As an example(real life) a player thought it was wrong for a paladin to use ranged weapons, luckily he was not the DM. In that case he would have been wrong(even if he was the DM), since the anti-ranged weapon rule is from the 1st edition cavalier. He had gotten his editions mixed up again.
You see a DM ruling something happening does not make it so.
I can accept that, and see where you are coming from. I do think a GM should hear his players out and a player really needs to ask his GM about things like this. If nothing else threads like this remind us all we can all read the same thing and understand a different way.
Jared Ouimette |
Abraham spalding wrote:... nothing in the paladin write up states you have to worship a god...From the SRD...
Upon reaching 5th level, a paladin forms a divine bond with her god.
At 20th level, a paladin becomes a conduit for the power of her god.
If a paladin does not worship a god, then what god is she forming a divine bond with and what god is she a conduit of power for?
All Paladins must be Female!
Set |
PuddingSeven wrote:All Paladins must be Female!
From the SRD...Upon reaching 5th level, a paladin forms a divine bond with her god.
At 20th level, a paladin becomes a conduit for the power of her god.
If a paladin does not worship a god, then what god is she forming a divine bond with and what god is she a conduit of power for?
Good catch. Note also that it says 'god,' not 'god or goddess.'
So, clearly, Iomedae cannot have Paladins. She lacks the plumbing.
TheWhiteWingFamily |
There's no rule for this because there shouldn't NEED to be a rule.
Paladins MUST be lawful good.
In order to worship a deity, you need to follow that deity's teachings and philosophies and do things that would make that deity proud.
If you don't worship a lawful good deity, you are increasingly doing things to impress your deity that are at odds with being a paladin.
Once an axis of your alignment drifts more than one step away (law to chaos or good to evil), maintaining a paladin's code and following a deity's philosophy and teachings become pretty much impossible to maintain for long. And without long-term maintenance, that faith simply cannot hold the order together.
To be devout, you need to adhere closely to your deity's alignment. To be a paladin, you need to be lawful good. That pretty much sums it up, as far as I can tell.
On Golarion, the following deities in particular are established in game canon as having paladin orders: Erastil, Iomedae, Torage, Sarenrae, Abadar. I suspect that both Shelyn and Irori have a few paladins worshiping them as well, but they don't have as many as the other five. There are no paladins serving any of the other deities.
How do you feel about a Half-Orc Paladin of Torage who was able to convert a Red Dragon to the worship of Torage?