Agile Athlete Feat?


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In the 3.5 book Races of the Wild, there was a feat called Agile Athlete. This feat allowed you to substitute your dexterity for strength for Climb checks, (and some other skill I can't remember... Swim, maybe?). Does this feat exist yet in Pathfinder? If not, is there any reason why it shouldn't be available?


In some cases, "substitute X stat modifier for Y" becomes nothing but a way to encourage outrageous dump stats. Incredible abuse was possible in 3.5 using Zen Archery (Wis for Dex with ranged attacks) to make cleric-archers that could outcompete any fighter or ranger... and pretty much every fighter took the feat that let you sub Con for Wis for Will saves -- that way they could dump Wis to like 3 and suffer no penalty for it.

That said, Dex for Str for Climb seems like an eminently reasonable substitution.


Kirth Gersen wrote:

In some cases, "substitute X stat modifier for Y" becomes nothing but a way to encourage outrageous dump stats. Incredible abuse was possible in 3.5 using Zen Archery (Wis for Dex with ranged attacks) to make cleric-archers that could outcompete any fighter or ranger... and pretty much every fighter took the feat that let you sub Con for Wis for Will saves -- that way they could dump Wis to like 3 and suffer no penalty for it.

That said, Dex for Str for Climb seems like an eminently reasonable substitution.

Agreed on both cases.

Sometimes stat replacement does seem reasonable in some cases like this.

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