Question about objects / for Jason or SKR


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Does this apply in Pathfinder?

from the SRD:
"Energy Attacks

Acid and sonic attacks deal damage to most objects just as they do to creatures; roll damage and apply it normally after a successful hit. Electricity and fire attacks deal half damage to most objects; divide the damage dealt by 2 before applying the hardness. Cold attacks deal one-quarter damage to most objects; divide the damage dealt by 4 before applying the hardness."

I was just curious. It came up in our game yesterday. The wording in the Pathfinder rulebook is a bit different.

Thanks

Mike


Qstor wrote:

Does this apply in Pathfinder?

from the SRD:
"Energy Attacks

Acid and sonic attacks deal damage to most objects just as they do to creatures; roll damage and apply it normally after a successful hit. Electricity and fire attacks deal half damage to most objects; divide the damage dealt by 2 before applying the hardness. Cold attacks deal one-quarter damage to most objects; divide the damage dealt by 4 before applying the hardness."

I was just curious. It came up in our game yesterday. The wording in the Pathfinder rulebook is a bit different.

Thanks

Mike

This appears have changed a bit, see the PRD

Additional Rules PRD wrote:


Energy Attacks: Energy attacks deal half damage to most objects. Divide the damage by 2 before applying the object's hardness. Some energy types might be particularly effective against certain objects, subject to GM discretion. For example, fire might do full damage against parchment, cloth, and other objects that burn easily. Sonic might do full damage against glass and crystal objects.

Liberty's Edge

What about force and acid? I guess you divide those by 2 and then apply hardness? I guess I have my 3.5 glasses on :)

Mike


Qstor wrote:

What about force and acid? I guess you divide those by 2 and then apply hardness? I guess I have my 3.5 glasses on :)

Mike

Looks like it applies to all energy forms.


I can't find where force is listed as an "energy".

The glossary was generally useless, but on the various "resist energy" spells they All list "acid, cold, electricity, fire, or sonic" as being the culprits.

[Force] is usually its own subtype, rather than being "energy" or whatnot.

Feel free to correct me though if I'm wrong.
(the lack of search on PRD is driving me craaazyyy)

-S


Selgard wrote:

[Force] is usually its own subtype, rather than being "energy" or whatnot.

Feel free to correct me though if I'm wrong.
(the lack of search on PRD is driving me craaazyyy)

-S

I agree that force isn't considered energy damage, so I wouldn't cut force damage in half.

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FarmerBob wrote:
Selgard wrote:

[Force] is usually its own subtype, rather than being "energy" or whatnot.

Feel free to correct me though if I'm wrong.
(the lack of search on PRD is driving me craaazyyy)

-S

I agree that force isn't considered energy damage, so I wouldn't cut force damage in half.

agreed, but note that the most common force damage, the magic missile spell, can't be used on objects at all, since it only targets creatures.

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