Unless I miss something, monks only get to use their class level as BAB for their CMB, not their CMD. They don't even get Defensive Combat Training as a possible bonus feat.
Am I missing something?
Well, they get to add their monk AC bonus to their CMD, so it mostly balances out.
and defensive combat manuevers doesn't have hard pre-reqs to take so putting it on the bonus feat list is kinda a waste.
By that logic, none of the 1st & 2nd level options should be on the list.
Am I missing something?
Monks get their AC bonus to CMD *as well as* their Wisdom modifiers to CMD. Every 4th level a monk equals a full BAB class in terms of the AC bonus to CMD alone.
They simply don't need the feat. It's a nice bonus but unnecessary.
Am I missing something?Monks get their AC bonus to CMD *as well as* their Wisdom modifiers to CMD. Every 4th level a monk equals a full BAB class in terms of the AC bonus to CMD alone.
They simply don't need the feat. It's a nice bonus but unnecessary.
Indeed, with the AC Bonus their CMD is (3/4th BAB + 1/four level)[full BAB] + Str + Dex + Wis + 10, and they can still if desired take Defensive Combat Training as one of their odd level feats giving it an additional +1 per four levels. Their CMD is normally above average, and it can be very very good.
That's not untrue. Still a case can be made for being untouchable.
Maybe it shouldn't be automatic, but it certainly fits as a bonus feat. Easy enough to house-rule, though.