Monster racial skill bonuses


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Creatures with a climb/swim speed have a +8 racial bonus on the relative skill, and these bonuses seem to be already included in the stats (unless there is an error), so all fine till here.

Also, some creatures have a racial bonus here or there, but is it always included unless otherwise noted or the opposite?

Take Nymph; she has +6 on Handle Animals, but it's not specified if it is included or not.
Doing the math with Nymph skills I end up seeing that after removing ability modifiers and class skill bonuses, she has a total of 76 skill points. Problem is that she should have (6 + Int) x HD = (6 + 3) x 8 = 72 skill points. So, with this error I don't understand wether the racial bonus was meant to be already in the stats or if it was to be added during play.

Another example? Look at the Mite skills and do the math yourself. Things get even darker.


Irrlicht wrote:

Creatures with a climb/swim speed have a +8 racial bonus on the relative skill, and these bonuses seem to be already included in the stats (unless there is an error), so all fine till here.

Also, some creatures have a racial bonus here or there, but is it always included unless otherwise noted or the opposite?

Take Nymph; she has +6 on Handle Animals, but it's not specified if it is included or not.
Doing the math with Nymph skills I end up seeing that after removing ability modifiers and class skill bonuses, she has a total of 76 skill points. Problem is that she should have (6 + Int) x HD = (6 + 3) x 8 = 72 skill points. So, with this error I don't understand wether the racial bonus was meant to be already in the stats or if it was to be added during play.

Another example? Look at the Mite skills and do the math yourself. Things get even darker.

Try this: Nymph doesn't get +6 Handle Animals (she gets +6 Wild Empathy). Handle Animals and Heal are not class skills for her. Now put 8 skill points in each of her skills. Should work out. Now stop looking at the nymph; she's too old for you.

For the Mite, Handle Animals and Ride are not class skills. +8 climb check because of climb speed, +4 stealth because of size. No ranks in Climb, 1 rank in each other skill. It works.

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